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  • Rumor: Manning almost traded to Houston

    Again, just a rumor but interesting nontheless.

    http://www.hngn.com/articles/96735/2...ak-excited.htm

    NFL RUMORS: Denver Broncos Talked Peyton Manning Trade With Houston Texans; Brock Osweiler's Development Has Elway, Kubiak 'Excited'?
    While Manning's continued presence in Denver means Brock Osweiler is destined for a spot on the bench in 2015, a report suggests that the young signal-caller's development has the Broncos brass excited and willing to part ways with Manning sooner, rather than later.
    By Cal Setar [email protected] | May 29, 2015 02:30 PM EDT



    The Denver Broncos reportedly discussed a Peyton Manning trade, fueled in part by the development of Brock Osweiler. (Photo : Getty Images)
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    It's pretty safe to say that as long as Peyton Manning is around, Brock Osweiler's not going to get a chance to see the field.
    Yes, Osweiler was a fairly high second-round pick just two short seasons ago, but Manning is a future Hall of Famer with a Super Bowl victory, seven first-team All-Pro selections, 14 Pro Bowls, five league MVP awards, 5,927 career regular season completions, 598 career postseason completions, 568 career touchdowns passes and a whole bevy of other awards and achievements to his name.
    In short, while Manning dons a Broncos uniform, Osweiler will hold a clipboard.
    What's intriguing though, is that while Manning's status for the looming 2015 campaign remained very much in the air this offseason due to his own aging and increasingly injury-prone body, his status as a member of the Broncos may have been very much up in the air as well, unbeknownst to the fans in Denver and the quarterback himself.
    During a recent Move The Sticks podcast with former NFL scout Daniel Jeremiah, Matt "Money" Smith passed along that he had been told by someone that would "certainly know," that a discussion may have gone on between the Broncos and the Houston Texans involving Manning possibly ending up in a Texans uniform.
    "I heard a little something, about three, four weeks ago, that the Broncos and the Texans were driving down a road and they were in the same car for a minute regarding Peyton Manning," said Smith. "I said, 'For what?,' and they said, 'For $25 million bucks, that's for what.'"
    Manning, of course, is set to make $15 million in base salary after taking a paycut to return to the Broncos in 2015. His contract previously had his base salary at $19 million, with incentives added into the deal which could push the value up to almost $25 million.
    Of course, no trade was consummated and the Broncos are set to hit the field with Manning again, while the Texans are staring down the barrel of a training camp competition between veteran journeyman Brian Hoyer and oft-injured unknown Ryan Mallett.
    From the Broncos perspective, the notion of dealing Manning is especially curious because of what else Denver currently boasts on their roster - the entirely unproven Osweiler.
    Per Smith, the Broncos may be higher on the big signal-caller than those outside the organization think.
    "What was being insinuated is they're excited about Brock Osweiler - that he is at that point now, that sort of Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre point where they feel like, 'Ok, he's ready.'"
    Osweiler, 24, has thrown all of 30 passes and completed all of 17 balls for 159 yards and one touchdown in three NFL seasons. Still, he's been the main backup to Manning since the team drafted him in 2012. He's had the opportunity to learn at the feet of two Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks in that time - Elway and Manning - and, per Troy E. Renck of The Denver Post, he's excited about his fit in new head coach Gary Kubiak's offense - a scheme which employs deeper drops and asks more, physically, from the quarterback.
    Osweiler told Renck in late April that it was difficult to hear the news of Manning's return, as he feels he's fully prepared to become the starter in Denver.
    "It's nothing easy, and nothing directly prepares you for it. My coordinator in college once told me, 'Only worry about the things you can control.' I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to be the starter for this team, but at the same time it wasn't up to me. Right now Peyton is our starter. That is great," Osweiler said. "I can only control how much I know the playbook, how I practice. I want to try to give Coach (Gary) Kubiak and (general manager) John Elway the best product that they've seen from me in four years. I am very confident that this August, they will see the product that John drafted, they will see what he was hoping I would turn into. I want to walk away from the preseason with no regrets."
    While Osweiler will be forced to ride the pine for one more season as Manning courts one final NFL championship, it looks increasingly likely based on Smith's report that Manning is entering his last year in Denver, whether of his own volition or not, and that Osweiler is indeed the long-term future at quarterback for the Broncos.

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    There are several holes in this rumor. First of all, the bridge between Manning and the Texans is likely burned after owner Bob McNair took a shot at Manning in 2012. McNair said he had no interest in Manning and would rather have Matt Schaub. I doubt Elway would move Manning against his will, plus he can just use the threat of retirement like Jake Plummer did. The no-trade clause shows that Manning does not want to move again at this point of his career. Then, add the fact that we've been a victim of the Seahawks and Colts' model for success: championship-caliber QB with a cheap, rookie deal that allows the franchise to spend money on other pieces. If the Broncos could do the same this year, they probably would. Elway himself said Osweiler lacks playing time and he does not know what will happen once the bullets start flying.
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    • #3
      http://www.nfl.com/podcasts?id=23017...4d26e19c447f24

      16:20 mark is when it starts. He heard something 3 or 4 weeks ago from someone that heard about it.

      A lot of second hand stuff, but if the timeline worked out, it makes sense that Manning has a no-trade clause now. Wouldn't take a paycut to make a trade to a different team look better.

      There's so much we don't know that goes on behind the scenes. It's entirely possible that while waiting for Manning the Texans inquired about a trade. It's not probable, no matter how plausible that the Broncos would've ever pulled the trigger on a trade like that.

      And honestly, what would they have expected in return? Houston gets a 2 year (at best, my opinion) lease on (a rapidly declining) Manning. There can't be much expected.
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      • #4
        I imagine nearly every good player in the NFL has been talked about in a trade with one team or another. Names and scenarios get thrown about all the time. It's called reaching and rarely does anything materialize. Unless it's Chip Kelley!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by CoryWinget81 View Post
          http://www.nfl.com/podcasts?id=23017...4d26e19c447f24

          16:20 mark is when it starts. He heard something 3 or 4 weeks ago from someone that heard about it.

          A lot of second hand stuff, but if the timeline worked out, it makes sense that Manning has a no-trade clause now. Wouldn't take a paycut to make a trade to a different team look better.

          It's entirely possible that while waiting for Manning the Texans inquired about a trade. It's not probable, no matter how plausible that the Broncos would've ever pulled the trigger on a trade like that.

          And honestly, what would they have expected in return? Houston gets a 2 year (at best, my opinion) lease on (a rapidly declining) Manning. There can't be much expected.

          Very true. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Now, I don't think there was anything more than a conversation, but I could understand the "conversation" in general. What head coach wants to come in and "tailor" his bread and butter to an aging quarterback that may not be around next year and have to start fresh again year 2? I love Peyton and what he has done for our Broncos. We don't know what we have in Brock yet, but he sure is built for this style of offense. Again, I love Peyton but "I" would love to see Brock and his progress or lack there of and gain some clarity whether he is our guy going forward. Some will say that's giving up and flushing our season, but with this supporting cast on offense and our possible top 5 defense, we could carry some learning mistakes. Go Broncos!
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Roddoliver View Post
            There are several holes in this rumor. First of all, the bridge between Manning and the Texans is likely burned after owner Bob McNair took a shot at Manning in 2012. McNair said he had no interest in Manning and would rather have Matt Schaub. I doubt Elway would move Manning against his will, plus he can just use the threat of retirement like Jake Plummer did. The no-trade clause shows that Manning does not want to move again at this point of his career. Then, add the fact that we've been a victim of the Seahawks and Colts' model for success: championship-caliber QB with a cheap, rookie deal that allows the franchise to spend money on other pieces. If the Broncos could do the same this year, they probably would. Elway himself said Osweiler lacks playing time and he does not know what will happen once the bullets start flying.
            I said much the same thing about 0745 in answer to the OP.

            For what ever the reason that post did not go thru.

            I added that IIRC the only contact that John and smith might have had in a "CAR" was at the owners meeting and that was just a couple of weeks ago. Not when the reporter said 3-4 weeks ago was when his source said.

            I said that it sounds like someone trying to fill Column inches for his paper.

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            • #7
              I don't think they were literally in a car....
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              • #8
                The fact that we tried makes me smile. Glad Elway is steering this ship, looking to better us now and for the future. Too bad the trade fell through, but like I said you can't deny that Elway's definitely trying to help us out!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CoryWinget81 View Post
                  I don't think they were literally in a car....
                  lol metaphors, am I right? How do they work

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Papa-pwn View Post
                    lol metaphors, am I right? How do they work
                    You are a pawn on the chessboard.
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                    • #11
                      First off the Broncos can't trade Manning because he has a no-trade clause in his contract. I say this is garbage. If anyone out there wants a piece of Colorado I have Mt Evans up for sale or trade.
















                      Oh, I can't sell Mt. Evans. Sorry.
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                      • #12
                        Had a conversation:

                        Houston: Trade us Manning
                        Denver: No
                        Houston: Cmon you save a ton of money
                        Denver: No

                        Saying there was a conversation is me calling the Colts, and offering a ham sandwich for Luck. Some reporter can then be like, the Colts had a conversation about parting with Luck for a samdwich.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
                          Had a conversation:

                          Houston: Trade us Manning
                          Denver: No
                          Houston: Cmon you save a ton of money
                          Denver: No

                          Saying there was a conversation is me calling the Colts, and offering a ham sandwich for Luck. Some reporter can then be like, the Colts had a conversation about parting with Luck for a samdwich.
                          Well, no wonder he wasn't traded. I think it would have taken at least a turkey sandwich with bacon. No way were was he going for a ham sandwich. Sheesh!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
                            Had a conversation:

                            Houston: Trade us Manning
                            Denver: No
                            Houston: Cmon you save a ton of money
                            Denver: No

                            Saying there was a conversation is me calling the Colts, and offering a ham sandwich for Luck. Some reporter can then be like, the Colts had a conversation about parting with Luck for a samdwich.
                            This sounds somewhat possible. Rumors that's all.

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                            • #15
                              I would be excited if it were Manning for Watt straight up.
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