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  • Gary Kubiak "Very Confident" Demaryius Thomas Re-signs

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13...thomas-re-sign

    ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- In what has been the most pronounced showing of optimism in the negotiations between the Denver Broncos and Pro Bowl wide receiver Demaryius Thomas, Broncos coach Gary Kubiak said following Tuesday's minicamp practice he's "very confident" a deal will get done before the Broncos open training camp in late July.

    Some of Thomas' more high-profile teammates, players like Emmanuel Sanders, Von Miller and Peyton Manning, have expressed their feelings in recent weeks that Thomas should get the contract he "deserves" and Broncos executive vice president of football operations/general manager John Elway has consistently said the two sides would work something out.


    Though Demaryius Thomas is hoping for a new contract this offseason, the Broncos wide receiver has been in touch with players and coaches about the revamped offense. Steve Dykes/Getty Images
    But Kubiak said Tuesday that Thomas has the team's playbook, has seen plenty of the practice video and will be as ready as he can be when the two sides come to an agreement. The Broncos opened their three-day mandatory minicamp Tuesday.

    "I'm very confident, yeah, I am," Kubiak said following practice. "John and I talk about it all the time, but I just try to stay focused on what we're doing right now. Going to continue to talk to, have some conversations through [wide receivers coach] Tyke [Tolbert] or somebody to Demaryius on exactly where he's at with our stuff. He's been studying our stuff, he's got all our cut-ups and that type of thing. Peyton and he are visiting consistently."

    Kubiak said he's had discussions about making sure when Thomas does arrive, most likely for the start of training camp in late July, the team evaluates his physical conditioning at that point to make decisions about how much Thomas should practice initially.

    "It's just going to be important that when we do get to that point and it's time to go, OK, what's our plan for him as we move forward," Kubiak said. "And we'll have that. I hear he's working extremely hard. ... His play speaks for itself. We expect him to be himself and ready to go. I'm just looking forward to it, looking forward to spending time with him, getting going."

    Thomas, who was designated as the franchise player by the Broncos in March as the two sides try to work out a long-term deal, has not attended any of the Broncos' offseason workouts. Thomas has chosen to work in Atlanta much of the time.

    For a wide receiver the franchise tag comes with a one-year, $12.823 million tender that Thomas has yet to sign. Because Thomas is not under contract and has not signed the franchise player tender, he cannot be fined for missing the team's mandatory minicamp this week -- by rule the only part of the Broncos' offseason program that can be designated as mandatory.

    "Work is work, I know he's working, we've been in contact with him," Kubiak said. "I don't know it's ever the same when you're not working here with the guys and those type of things. But it is what it is, and it's going to get worked out and he's going to be here and he's going to be a great player for this football team. I'm just looking forward to that time. I actually texted with him [Tuesday]."

    The Broncos and Thomas' representatives have exchanged proposals for weeks and any eventual deal will put Thomas among the highest-paid receivers in the league.

    When the Broncos opened their OTA practices, Manning said he had been in contact with Thomas and that "he has played extremely well his first few years of his career, in my opinion has established himself as one of the top receivers in the NFL and like I said I want what's best for him. ... Hopefully there's that happy medium for both sides and we can get him in here soon and put that all behind everybody."

    The last two Broncos players to have been tagged as franchise players -- left tackle Ryan Clady and kicker Matt Prater -- each received new long-term deals before training camp opened.

    Kubiak also said Tuesday that as the team has installed the new offense, the position group that may have faced the most change is the wide receivers, in terms of the verbiage in the playbook as well as what's being called in the huddle now as well as at the line of scrimmage.

    "Probably the toughest spot has been receiver," Kubiak said. "... There's a lot of the huddle talk Emmanuel and those guys are having to get used to ... probably, they've had the biggest adjustment."

    Thomas told ESPN.com just before the offseason program opened that if no deal was worked out, he would eventually sign the franchise player tender and play the 2015 season under that tender. Overall, Calvin Johnson has the largest contract for any wide receiver in the league -- a seven-year, $113 million deal he signed in 2012 that includes $48.8 million in guaranteed money. Andre Johnson, who was released by the Houston Texans earlier this month, signed a seven-year, $67.8 million deal in 2010, while Percy Harvin signed a six-year, $64.2 million deal ($14.5 million guaranteed) in 2013.

    Since the start of the 2011 season Thomas is second in the NFL with 28 100-yard receiving games in the regular season and postseason combined, including 10 100-yard games last season. His 226 yards in the Broncos' Oct. 5 win over the Arizona Cardinals is a franchise record for a single game, and his 1,619 yards receiving in 2014 set a single-season franchise record.

    Thomas has had three consecutive seasons with at least 92 receptions, 1,430 yards receiving and 10 touchdowns. He is the third player in league history to have three consecutive seasons with at least 1,400 yards receiving and 10 touchdowns. Jerry Rice and Marvin Harrison are the others.

    Obviously "Very Confident" doesn't mean anything in concrete terms but it is telling that Kubiak would make such a statement in the middle of negotiations. I doubt he would've commented if he heard from Elway that the sides were still very far apart.

    Looks promising to say the least.
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    Yeah but Kubiak was also rather confident he wouldn't leave Baltimore.. Stuff happens.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Denver Mike View Post
      Yeah but Kubiak was also rather confident he wouldn't leave Baltimore.. Stuff happens.
      Well, you make a good point right there. You can't take anyone's word for anything until the paper is signed.
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      • #4
        - Peyton wants new deal for Demaryius Thomas -

        "With just five weeks before the July 15 deadline to sign franchise players to long-term extensions, the pressure is on the Denver Broncos to find common ground with wide receiver Demaryius Thomas.

        Peyton Manning is already upset that Thomas doesn't have a new deal and isn't in Denver, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported on Thursday's edition of NFL Total Access.

        If there is no deal in place by the deadline, Rapoport adds, don't expect Thomas to report to training camp.

        That chain of events would only serve to further aggravate Manning, who relies on offseason and summer repetitions to build impeccable timing with his receivers. Considering the challenges of adjusting to Gary Kubiak's new offense, it's even more imperative that Manning hones his connection with his No. 1 receiver.

        The problem, from the Broncos' point of view, is Thomas' asking price." ...

        http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...maryius-thomas

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        • #5
          - Demaryius Thomas' teammates watch negotiations carefully -

          "He is the most significant item on the Denver Broncos' offseason to-do list left to be checked off.

          Wide receiver Demaryius Thomas, the team's unquestioned alpha player at the position, has been designated as the Broncos' franchise player. The formal title brings a one-year, $12.823 million salary for the player the moment he signs it. And it's also the reason Thomas has stayed away from the Broncos' offseason program.

          He wants a long-term contract and the Broncos' chief decision-maker, John Elway, wants to make it happen. Now it is all about the Benjamins while the negotiations are watched not only by the team's faithful but also by Thomas' teammates. ...

          A football team that says it wants to be homegrown, as Elway has said he wants the Broncos to be, can let some free agents walk in a salary-cap world. And the Broncos have let a long list of free agents go in the past two years ...

          But if a team wants players to believe it will take care of its own, some of those free agents have to be retained, even if it takes a contract that is among the biggest in the league to do it. And as a team captain who has been named to three Pro Bowls, played hurt and been one of the league's best at his position, Demaryius Thomas is one of those players." ...

          http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-bronc...ions-carefully

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          • #6
            It is all about the Benjamins

            DT wants to be one of the top five paid guys in the league, it is about how much is guaranteed and cash money up front.

            Both something that the Broncos are short of.

            It is a dumb move to stay away. The longer he does that the higher the odds of him not being here next year.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Garfield View Post
              It is all about the Benjamins

              DT wants to be one of the top five paid guys in the league, it is about how much is guaranteed and cash money up front.

              Both something that the Broncos are short of.

              It is a dumb move to stay away. The longer he does that the higher the odds of him not being here next year.
              Depends on how important it is for him to be in Denver. Only he can answer if it is more important to to him to be in Denver for a slightly reduced price or go anywhere and be the "highest paid" WR.

              If he would sign the franchise tag, DT would currently be paid as the second highest WR behind Johnson at $12.8M. The Johnson contract was absurd. Another team may also pay DT absurd money too. How important is that to him?

              It would be very interesting to see just how far apart DT's agents and the Broncos are. IMO a 6 yr/ $13M per with a very high guaranteed amount (approx. $40M) would work for both sides. DT gets his money and respect. Broncos get their receiver and some cap flexibility.

              If the numbers start going beyond that amount my interest and hopes of keeping DT start to decline.

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              • #8
                DT is not stupid. He will be able to cash in more this year than any year of his career. Our offense is switching to a run heavy, smash mouth football team. His numbers will go down this year. After that we will probably have a new QB who is not named Peyton Manning which will lower his numbers. This year is his best time to cash in. For those complaining he will get paid to much, there is no such thing. This is a business. No one complains that the Bowlen family is worth more than 2 billion on account of the broncos players and the demand that the fans offers to support the NFL. Let DT get as much as he can. He has every right to try to. We expect a hometown discount from DT but the broncos have one of the most expensive tickets in the league, where is the fan's hometown discount?
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                • #9
                  What is a "hometown discount"? Reportedly the initial offer last Dec. from the Broncos was $13M. Or second highest paid WR in the League. I am not sure he is the second best WR in the league.

                  At this point we really have no idea what DT is looking for or the Broncos are offering. We can speculate but we really have no clue. Unless you have seen actual proposed numbers of years and guaranteed money?

                  As I mentioned above. I would love for DT to remain a Bronco. But not at the expense of the overall team. DT is a special WR but IMO not clear cut best in the NFL. In reality DT could easily price himself out of Denver. I would hate to lose him but I am not sure he could not be replaced by a lesser WR but one that would still be a solid contributor with this team.

                  Curious if that is the type of contract DT' is looking for? I would be curious to hear his motivations. Does he like Denver or prefer another part of the country? Is he comfortable remaining a Bronco with the system and inevitable QB change? Does he need to be higher paid then Dez Bryant?

                  All things that come into the negotiations. IMO $13-$14M per year is a fair and realistic offer. Anything more starts me thinking a free agent for half the salary or a first round WR start sounding pretty good.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FR Tim View Post
                    What is a "hometown discount"? Reportedly the initial offer last Dec. from the Broncos was $13M. Or second highest paid WR in the League. I am not sure he is the second best WR in the league.

                    At this point we really have no idea what DT is looking for or the Broncos are offering. We can speculate but we really have no clue. Unless you have seen actual proposed numbers of years and guaranteed money?

                    As I mentioned above. I would love for DT to remain a Bronco. But not at the expense of the overall team. DT is a special WR but IMO not clear cut best in the NFL. In reality DT could easily price himself out of Denver. I would hate to lose him but I am not sure he could not be replaced by a lesser WR but one that would still be a solid contributor with this team.

                    Curious if that is the type of contract DT' is looking for? I would be curious to hear his motivations. Does he like Denver or prefer another part of the country? Is he comfortable remaining a Bronco with the system and inevitable QB change? Does he need to be higher paid then Dez Bryant?

                    All things that come into the negotiations. IMO $13-$14M per year is a fair and realistic offer. Anything more starts me thinking a free agent for half the salary or a first round WR start sounding pretty good.
                    If I had to guess I don't think it is so much the per year amount as it is guarantee amount that it's what was keeping them from agreeing but that is just my guess




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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by #87Birdman View Post
                      If I had to guess I don't think it is so much the per year amount as it is guarantee amount that it's what was keeping them from agreeing but that is just my guess
                      Agreed.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FR Tim View Post
                        What is a "hometown discount"? Reportedly the initial offer last Dec. from the Broncos was $13M. Or second highest paid WR in the League. I am not sure he is the second best WR in the league.

                        At this point we really have no idea what DT is looking for or the Broncos are offering. We can speculate but we really have no clue. Unless you have seen actual proposed numbers of years and guaranteed money?

                        As I mentioned above. I would love for DT to remain a Bronco. But not at the expense of the overall team. DT is a special WR but IMO not clear cut best in the NFL. In reality DT could easily price himself out of Denver. I would hate to lose him but I am not sure he could not be replaced by a lesser WR but one that would still be a solid contributor with this team.

                        Curious if that is the type of contract DT' is looking for? I would be curious to hear his motivations. Does he like Denver or prefer another part of the country? Is he comfortable remaining a Bronco with the system and inevitable QB change? Does he need to be higher paid then Dez Bryant?

                        All things that come into the negotiations. IMO $13-$14M per year is a fair and realistic offer. Anything more starts me thinking a free agent for half the salary or a first round WR start sounding pretty good.
                        Lots of questions you ask young padawon

                        All very good ones.

                        Has he fell under the influence of an agent. One that signed a lesser talent as a rookie and now sees him as a ticket to the big time clients in next years draft?
                        Or has he pumped smoke up DT ass to get him to think he is better than he is (Ftiz or megatron in their primes) or has someone else in DTs life done so.
                        John got a home town discount from Harris another quiet player that carries his lunch bucket to work every day and kicks butt and then goes home.

                        DT is IMO looking at big money a 15% increase in what he is making right now which was about a 300% over last year. (Without looking it up)

                        What is enough? We may never know what we are offering and like you think he will be a guy going to the highest bidder next year.

                        Let me add with the new offense instead of getting 70% pass from years past they are looking for balance 50-50 which means 20% less chances to be a stud.
                        Which diminishes his chances of making Huge money next year.

                        Maybe we can get him to sign his tag offer and trade him with his permission to another team that will pay him what he and his entourage think he is worth.

                        IMHO I do not beleive he is a bronco long term.

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