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  • Why Denver Broncos' Brock Osweiler might be good enough to win it all

    The title was made for click-bait if you ask me but the story itself is very interesting where it concerns Brock road to Denver with some fascinating coincidences thrown in that would sound made up if they weren't true.

    The Jeff Hostetler comparison at the end is a little interesting but not nearly as everything before it.

    Why Denver Broncos' Brock Osweiler might be good enough to win it all
    Ian O'Connor, ESPN Senior Writer

    Working on the assumption that Brock Osweiler will remain the quarterback of the Denver Broncos, and that John Elway hasn't tempered his win-now urgency in the wake of Peyton Manning's injury, Denver's season has been reduced to one relevant question:

    Is Osweiler good enough to win the Super Bowl? Or, better yet: Are the Broncos good enough to win the Super Bowl with Osweiler as their guy?

    But to understand where Osweiler is or isn't heading, it's important to understand where he has been and how he ended up as Manning's potentially permanent replacement on a team built to win it all.

    Matt Lubick stands among the influential voices who advised Elway to draft the 6-foot-7 quarterback out of Arizona State, and the story is kind of complicated. It starts, Lubick said Tuesday, "on a cold, winter day in Helena, Montana." He was an Arizona State assistant coach looking for a pocket quarterback who could scramble when necessary, and the search landed him inside the high school gym at Helena Capital, where Osweiler, a junior for Kalispell's Flathead High, was busy showing people why Gonzaga had offered him a basketball scholarship he'd verbally accepted after his freshman season.

    Football coaches are fond of measuring their recruits' athleticism on the basketball court, and Osweiler didn't disappoint. But he played so damn hard, too, on both ends of the floor, and Lubick thought he radiated a vibe of extreme confidence while maintaining an ego-free approach to lesser teammates. The recruiter thought this trait would transfer perfectly to the quarterback position.

    And then Lubick watched his prospect throw the football. Though he was too busy working for Dennis Erickson on Saturdays to see Osweiler live, Lubick studied every Flathead game on tape. The recruiter was born in Bozeman and had played his college ball at Western Montana; he was well aware that Montana high school football didn't quite measure up to the Texas game played under the Friday night lights.

    The films never lied anyway. "Brock was a man among boys out there," Lubick said. "He wasn't that heavily recruited or highly publicized because you might have one BCS guy a year coming out of Montana, and he wasn't playing against great competition or throwing to Division I receivers. He was throwing to all these undersized, good, tough Montana kids, and half the season they're playing in snowstorms.

    "But no matter what the situation was, every ball he threw was right on the money. Some were dropped, but he didn't miss on a single ball. I've been doing this over 20 years, and he's one of the most accurate quarterbacks I've ever seen."

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    I absolutely love the part about his accuracy and his composure - not getting rattled in tough situations. :thumb:
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    I read this earlier after seeing a few people post it on Facebook

    But he played so damn hard, too, on both ends of the floor, and Lubick thought he radiated a vibe of extreme confidence while maintaining an ego-free approach to lesser teammates. The recruiter thought this trait would transfer perfectly to the quarterback position.
    I think this showed after the go ahead TD in the 4th, when he ran up behind Andre Caldwell and grabbed him with what appeared to be an extremely high level of excitement. From the post game videos over the past two weeks, you can tell he's well liked amongst his teammates.

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    • #3
      He has shown some great accuracy on a lot of throws, and too many have been dropped. The throws that weren't accurate probably has more to do with getting used to the receiver and getting their timing down ... a matter of time and practice together. The dropped passes also could be somewhat due to not being used to his passes compared to Manning's, but that is just speculation on my part. I think the Broncos are in good hands with him at QB and IF Manning is healthy he can be a very good "backup" down the stretch.
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        From Montana to Denver: The rise of Brock Osweiler



        KALISPELL, Mont. -- When Brock Osweiler was 17 years old, Russell McCarvell, his football coach at Flathead High School in Kalispell, Montana, invited him over to his house to watch a few hours of game tape. The coach wanted to chat with his quarterback before his senior year picked up steam, but he wasn't planning to make some grand speech. Just bringing it up seemed borderline unnecessary.

        Osweiler, an honor roll student who occasionally babysat McCarvell's two sons, was a coach's dream. He was well-liked by his teammates, confident but not arrogant. He never coasted in the weight room or in practice, and he studied film with a quiet intensity that most teenagers simply don't have the patience for.

        But in Kalispell -- a middle-class town of 20,000 in the heart of the Flathead Valley that's surrounded by the soaring peaks of Glacier National Park and Flathead Lake, the largest natural freshwater lake in the West -- Osweiler had become something of a celebrity. It was already clear that he had a good chance of playing professional football. With a crossbow for a right arm, at 6-foot-7 and 220 pounds, he surely looked the part. To start the path, he was headed to Arizona State to play for the Sun Devils upon graduation. In Montana, that made him an anomaly.

        "I know you know this already," McCarvell remembers telling Osweiler that day, "but you're better than everyone on this team. We have some talented players, but you're on an entirely different level. What you need to do is make sure that someday, when some kid is watching you on TV at Applebee's when he's older, he turns to his friend and says 'You know what? I played with that guy, I blocked for him, and he was a great guy.' Because people from Montana love cheering for their own."

        What was left mostly unspoken -- yet understood -- was the creed that every Montana high school football player and coach of the past 20 years knows well: Don't make the mistakes that Ryan Leaf made.

        For the majority of Americans, that might seem like fairly obvious advice. Leaf's short NFL career -- a cautionary tale of arrogance, immaturity, injuries, alcohol, prescription drugs and, eventually, prison time -- has become an infamous piece of sports history. It's rare to hear Leaf's name these days unless it's atop a listicle of Biggest Draft Busts Ever or as a reminder that Peyton Manning's career foil was supposed to be Leaf, who was drafted No. 2 behind him, not Tom Brady.

        But the ghost of Leaf's meteoric rise, and his calamitous unraveling, is a specter that still haunts the Treasure State when discussing the native son's professional football ambitions. For Montanans, Leaf's fall is a complicated piece of the state's football identity, not just a story of a draft pick gone wrong. But to the world beyond the Rocky Mountains, Leaf still represents Montana football in ways that JaMarcus Russell doesn't seem to represent Louisiana or Rick Mirer Indiana, and for good reason. Of the thousands of kids to play four years of high school football in Montana, only two have ever started an NFL game at quarterback.

        Leaf was the first. Osweiler, when he filled in this year for an injured Manning, became the second. This isn't Texas or Ohio or Florida, where great quarterbacks seemingly jump off an assembly line each fall. There are literally more NFL quarterbacks in the Manning family than there are in the entire history of the state of Montana.

        For that reason (and many more), McCarvell couldn't help but smile Sunday when Osweiler was interviewed after the Broncos beat the Patriots 30-24 in overtime, becoming the first team this season to defeat New England. Asked by NBC's Michele Tafoya what it felt like to be 2-0 as a starting quarterback, Osweiler quickly deflected the question. "I'm not 2-0," he said. "The team is 2-0." To most of the country, it sounded like a banal cliché. But in the eyes of many here, it was just the most public example of how Osweiler's always been conscious of not repeating Leaf's missteps.



        WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT Osweiler's rise is how easily he could have ended up as a forgotten mid-major college basketball player instead.

        The youngest of two brothers, Osweiler grew to be 6-foot-4 by the time he was in seventh grade, and he dominated youth sports in Kalispell throughout his childhood. He spent his summers starring for the Yakima Elite AAU team, one of the best squads in the Pacific Northwest, and the stories of his athletic exploits spread quickly. Whether it was scoring 50 points in a middle school game or pulling off a 360 dunk as a 15-year-old, Osweiler became known as the cocky, friendly kid who drove around town in a black Dodge Durango with the license plate, "LIL OZ."

        "Everyone knew who he was before he got to high school," said Reed Watkins, a teacher at Flathead High School in Kalispell, who is two years older than Osweiler and played football for the Flathead Braves. "He was already playing basketball all over the country."

        He was 6-foot-7 by now, with size 17 shoes, and he moved with a mixture of grace and power, unlike most tall high school kids.

        "Growing up with him was special," says Charlie Dotson, one of Osweiler's teammates and friends in high school. "He'd do things on the court or on the field and you'd think 'Wow, is this guy for real?' "

        Gonzaga also saw something special, and by December of Osweiler's freshman year he was invited to a game to watch Adam Morrison and the eighth-ranked Bulldogs play in Spokane against St. Joseph's. Gonzaga offered him a scholarship, and Osweiler accepted immediately. The news swept the state; at 15, Osweiler was the youngest Montana athlete to ever make a Division I basketball commitment.
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          Over time, however, Osweiler began to reevaluate his future. He started to reassess what his ceiling might be, and which sport it might be in. Grady Bennett, Osweiler's football coach at Flathead during his freshman and sophomore years and a former quarterback at the University of Montana, invited Osweiler over for dinner one night and peppered him with questions.

          It would be fun to play in front of 6,000 people in Spokane. But have you thought about how much fun it would be to play in front of 80,000 to 100,000?

          If you're truly being honest with yourself, do you see yourself making it to the NBA as a 6-7 white guy?

          Or could you potentially see yourself playing in the NFL?


          Bennett could see the wheels in Osweiler's head start to churn. Basketball was fun, but football might be a legitimate way to make a living. "I think that's when he really started thinking about it for the first time," Bennett says. "You could just tell what a leader he was. I remember right before one of our playoff games his sophomore year, he asked me if he could give a speech to the team. I thought, 'Wow, this is a sophomore? This kid is something special.' "

          The trouble, initially, was getting the attention of recruiters outside Montana. There were passing camps that Osweiler wanted to attend, the kind where all the best prep quarterbacks in the country gather for a week during the summer, but most were held in California or in the South. It was too expensive to fly and too far to drive. He decided he had to market himself, so Osweiler and his dad, John, put together a DVD of highlights from his sophomore year. In one scene, there was grainy footage of Osweiler nailing the receiver on a deep out; in the next he'd uncork a skinny post. Mixed in were clips of him dunking a basketball during games. Within weeks of sending out the DVD, Osweiler started getting letters from Alabama, USC, Stanford, Florida State.

          "He was such a great basketball player," says Flathead High School Principal Peter Fusaro. "But things evolved with him. It was apparent that he was going to be able to take it to the highest level in football. Watching him on the football field, the way he could move and throw the ball, it was just apparent."

          Just as Osweiler's football career was taking off, though, he found himself caught in the middle of a community tug of war. The city of Kalispell had grown to where it was clear the school district needed to build a second high school. When the new 229,000-foot facility, Glacier High School, was ready to open in 2008, half of Flathead's students were expected to enroll there.

          "The politics of it were tough," says Charlie Doston, who was a year older than Osweiler and played running back on the football team. "My senior class, we got to vote whether we wanted to go Glacier or stay at Flathead. It was 95 percent wanted to stay at Flathead. For us, it was about tradition and pride and everything we'd been working for. We didn't want to jump ship and go to a new school just because it was brand new and had shiny technology and new uniforms."

          Most of Flathead's coaching staff, including Bennett, were leaving to take teaching and coaching jobs at Glacier. And Osweiler had a choice. He lived in the new district, which meant he had the option of going to Glacier or staying at Flathead. No matter what he decided, half the town was going to feel betrayed.

          "It was brutal," Bennett says. "Brock was one of the first people I told, and I just said, 'This is an opportunity I have to take professionally and for my family.' He said 'Coach, I respect that. But I'm a Brave. I grew up wearing black and orange, and my brother played here. All my friends are here. I'm staying.' It was hard, because I felt like we were just getting started. I knew I was walking away from a potential NFL quarterback, and a lot of people were ticked off. But I think Brock showed a lot of loyalty, a lot of leadership. He took over that school. Everyone rallied behind him."

          Osweiler's first act was to throw his full support behind McCarvell, who was named Flathead's new head coach and was just one of two coaches who didn't leave for Glacier. Soon, Osweiler began his routine of dropping by the house to watch film. He was particularly fixated, McCarvell remembers, on studying the complexities and nuances of pass protection. He wanted to know how he could do a better job of recognizing where pressure might be coming from and in understanding ways he could help his linemen and running backs prior to the snap. He organized off-season workouts and throwing sessions, hoping it would solidify the bond between teammates who chose to stay. If you didn't show, he was on his cell phone calling and texting, wanting to know why you were late.

          "He's so athletic for being big, and obviously he throws it so well," McCarvell says. "But then you get to know him, and he's engaging, he's smart, he's driven, he's goal-oriented, and he worked very hard. Every attribute you would want in a quarterback, there it is."

          McCarvell, who now teaches math and coaches in Helena, Mont., at Capital High School, says Osweiler wasn't all that interested in being wooed by a number of schools. He didn't even take a single recruiting trip until after he'd committed. Sun Devils assistant coaches Noel Mazzone and Matt Lubick traveled to Montana to see Osweiler, and when they arrived, they asked him if he would throw a few passes in the gym to warm up.

          "After he watched Brock throw about 10 balls, [Mazzone] turned to me and said, 'I've seen enough. I'm good,' " McCarvell remembers.

          When you watch highlights from Osweiler's high school career -- McCarvell held on to a few DVDs and is happy to break them out if asked -- you can see plenty of evidence of the man he's about to become. He threw for 2,703 yards and 29 touchdowns as a senior and was named the Gatorade Player of the Year, but his mechanics and footwork stand out. They're light years ahead of most teenage quarterbacks. The ball comes out of his hand like a slingshot, like he's barely exerting any effort. Cold weather and snow, like the conditions he played in against the Patriots, don't faze him. (Every Montana kid grows up playing in the snow.) When Osweiler fakes a handoff and rolls to his right, zipping a perfectly thrown pass into the arms of a receiver for a touchdown, McCarvell pauses the DVD on the computer in his classroom and chuckles.

          "Looks a lot like what he's doing in Denver, doesn't it?" he says.

          Osweiler has stayed closely connected to Flathead and its football program. A year ago he donated a large board called the Flathead Football Captains Board that hangs in the hallways near the locker room. It features a picture of Osweiler and the words, "Count on Me." Every year, the football team's captains are etched on the board as an honor.

          This fall he kept in contact with the coaches and players and wished them well as the team enjoyed its best season since Osweiler's days.

          "He's been awesome to me and our program," says Flathead's second-year head football coach Kyle Samson. "He's definitely a guy who hasn't forgotten where he came from. He takes a lot of interest in our program, and he sends us letters regularly during the season. He's really helped me out with a few things. The kids look up to him tremendously."



          FOR EACH OF Osweiler's starts, fans have filled local sports bars, from Moose's Saloon to Fatt Boys, to cheer on the Kalispell product. He's been the talk of the town, if not the state. Even Montana Gov. Steve Bullock and U.S. Senator Steve Daines couldn't resist crowing a bit after the Patriots game, tweeting notes of congratulations: "Congrats to @bosweiler17 and the @Broncos on your win over the Patriots. Keep making #Montana proud!" the governor wrote. "Congrats to @bosweiler17 and the Broncos on their overtime win...snow can't stop a Montana boy!" added Senator Daines.

          Two days after the game, the excitement continued to grow when Osweiler was featured on the regional cover of Sports Illustrated, the first Montana athlete to make the cover since Leaf in 2000.

          "There was quite the buzz going around," Fusaro says. "It's a testament to Brock and how hard he's worked to be there and how he put himself in a great position to succeed."

          Dotson, who is now an assistant football coach for the Flathead Braves and a physical education teacher at the school, says he often thinks about Osweiler when he's talking to kids about leadership and loyalty. Dotson's senior year, he broke his collarbone midway through the Braves homecoming game, an injury that ended his season well before Flathead began its playoff run. After the game, a few friends and teammates commiserated with him for a few minutes, but one after another, they all dashed off to the Homecoming dance, eager to celebrate.

          Osweiler skipped the dance entirely. He and his girlfriend drove over to Dotson's house, and the three of them sat around watched TV, just talking and cracking jokes.

          "That says everything you need to know about Brock," Dotson says. "We just won the Homecoming game, he's the quarterback and one of the most popular guys in school, and he's just chilling and hanging out, making sure I'm ok. That right there shows you what kind of character he has."
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          • #6
            Sounds like a super special person, not to mention a pretty good Quarterback. The more I learn about him, the more impressed I am. I'm really glad he's a Denver Bronco and even though the odds are against it in todays NFL, I hope he has a long successful career and does it all in Denver, like Elway did.

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              Osweiler skipped the dance entirely. He and his girlfriend drove over to Dotson's house, and the three of them sat around watched TV, just talking and cracking jokes.

              "That says everything you need to know about Brock," Dotson says. "We just won the Homecoming game, he's the quarterback and one of the most popular guys in school, and he's just chilling and hanging out, making sure I'm ok. That right there shows you what kind of character he has."
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              "It was brutal," Bennett says. "Brock was one of the first people I told, and I just said, 'This is an opportunity I have to take professionally and for my family.' He said 'Coach, I respect that. But I'm a Brave. I grew up wearing black and orange, and my brother played here. All my friends are here. I'm staying.' It was hard, because I felt like we were just getting started. I knew I was walking away from a potential NFL quarterback, and a lot of people were ticked off. But I think Brock showed a lot of loyalty, a lot of leadership. He took over that school. Everyone rallied behind him."
              Are the things that stick out more to me than his physical power and attributes. He's a leader and he's loyal. You can teach mechanics and rules but you can't teach that kind of character.
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              • #8
                Nice read!

                I'm curious, who are some of the NFL's QB's best known for their accuracy?

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                  Osweiler skipped the dance entirely. He and his girlfriend drove over to Dotson's house, and the three of them sat around watched TV, just talking and cracking jokes.

                  "That says everything you need to know about Brock," Dotson says. "We just won the Homecoming game, he's the quarterback and one of the most popular guys in school, and he's just chilling and hanging out, making sure I'm ok. That right there shows you what kind of character he has."
                  and

                  "It was brutal," Bennett says. "Brock was one of the first people I told, and I just said, 'This is an opportunity I have to take professionally and for my family.' He said 'Coach, I respect that. But I'm a Brave. I grew up wearing black and orange, and my brother played here. All my friends are here. I'm staying.' It was hard, because I felt like we were just getting started. I knew I was walking away from a potential NFL quarterback, and a lot of people were ticked off. But I think Brock showed a lot of loyalty, a lot of leadership. He took over that school. Everyone rallied behind him."
                  Are the things that stick out more to me than his physical prowess and attributes. He's a leader and he's loyal. You can teach mechanics and rules but you can't teach that kind of character.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JesseH View Post
                    Nice read!

                    I'm curious, who are some of the NFL's QB's best known for their accuracy?
                    In my opinion and in no particular order

                    Aikman
                    Montana/Young
                    Unitas
                    Rodgers
                    Manning
                    Marino
                    Brees
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DarkHorse26 View Post
                      In my opinion and in no particular order

                      Aikman
                      Montana/Young
                      Unitas
                      Rodgers
                      Manning
                      Marino
                      Brees

                      Rivers is pretty accurate with that stupid throwing motion of his
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CoryWinget81 View Post
                        Rivers is pretty accurate with that stupid throwing motion of his
                        Haha, he is probably in there too.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DarkHorse26 View Post
                          In my opinion and in no particular order

                          Aikman
                          Montana/Young
                          Unitas
                          Rodgers
                          Manning
                          Marino
                          Brees
                          Ah, where's the Sammy Baugh love? The guy threw a glorified watermelon well. Imagine what he could have done with a football.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DarkHorse26 View Post
                            In my opinion and in no particular order

                            Aikman
                            Montana/Young
                            Unitas
                            Rodgers
                            Manning
                            Marino
                            Brees
                            What no tebow? This list fails lol




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                              Originally posted by #87Birdman View Post
                              What no tebow? This list fails lol
                              Not. Fair. You know WRs were dropping passes

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