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  • The Ravens clearly won the Tim Tebow trade 6 years ago

    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/t...l-draft-030216

    Quarterback purgatory: It's something no team wants to go through. You're decent enough to win around eight games a season, but not bad enough to lock up a top-10 draft pick and take a true franchise quarterback.

    That's where the Denver Broncos were from 2006 to 2009. They went from Jake Plummer to Jay Cutler to Kyle Orton, none of whom won more than nine games in a single season.

    What better way to fix that than to take the most talked about quarterback in the 2010 draft? Yep, that guy was Tim Tebow, and the Broncos fell in love with him.

    After already selecting their future Pro Bowl wideout in Demaryius Thomas 22nd overall, the Broncos traded back into the first round to take none other than Tebow. Granted, they didn't give away the farm, but the cost wasn't cheap.

    In order for Denver to nab Baltimore's first-round pick (25th overall), the Broncos gave up a second-, third- and fourth-round pick in the 2010 draft. The Ravens turned two of those selections into key contributors, helping them win a Super Bowl two years later.

    Here's how the trade has played out after six years, including players the Broncos could have added if they didn't move up for Tebow.

    Broncos

    Tim Tebow, QB (first round): It took Tebow a year before he was handed the keys to the offense in Denver, and it probably should have taken longer -- if at all. He made three starts in 2010 as a rookie, completing 50 percent of his passes with five touchdowns and three interceptions. He also rushed for 227 yards and six touchdowns. As a "sophomore" in 2011, Tebow took over for Orton in Week 5 after a 1-3 start. By Week 7, he was the starter, and remained so for the rest of the season.

    He finished the year with 1,729 yards, 12 touchdowns and six interceptions but completed just 46.5 percent of his passes. He managed to lead the Broncos to the playoffs and won the franchise's first postseason game since 2005 with a dramatic, overtime win against the Steelers. In the AFC Championship, however, he was exposed by Bill Belichick and the Patriots ... badly. He completed 9-of-26 passes for 136 yards in a 45-10 beatdown.

    Now, Tebow is out of the NFL and failed to live up to the hype as a first-round quarterback. It was a bold move by the Broncos, but one that didn't pan out the way they hoped. Following Tebow's departure, Peyton Manning led Denver to two Super Bowls (one win) and four straight playoff berths.

    Ravens

    Sergio Kindle, LB (second round): His name probably doesn't ring a bell. That's because he only played three games in the NFL. Kindle never panned out as a second-round pick, and he could have been selected much early had it not been for concerns about his oft-injured knee and off-the-field incidents. As a rookie, he fell down two flights of stairs at his home and suffered a skull fracture, forcing him to miss all of the season. In 2011, he saw the field for the first time in his career. It didn't last long, though, as he played in two games. The next year, he was placed on the practice squad and never made an active NFL roster again. Notable players taken after Kindle: Daryl Washington, Carlos Dunlap, Sean Lee.

    Ed Dickson, TE (third round): The first of two tight ends selected by the Ravens in 2010, Dickson has had his share of success in the NFL. He saw limited action as a rookie, but in 2011, his numbers skyrocketed. He caught what's still a career-high 54 passes for 528 yards and five touchdowns. He played four seasons in Baltimore before joining the Panthers in 2014. This past season, he made his second Super Bowl appearance alongside Cam Newton, but wound up falling to the Broncos. As a third-round pick, Dickson has had a decent career and has played all 16 games four out of the six years he's been in the league. Notable players taken after Dickson: Emmanuel Sanders, NaVorro Bowman, Jimmy Graham.

    Dennis Pitta, TE (fourth round): It's somewhat unheard of for a team to take a tight end in back-to-back rounds, but that's exactly what the Ravens did. While he's dealt with injury problems in recent years, Pitta was an integral part of the offense in 2012 when the Ravens won the Super Bowl. That year, he caught 61 passes for 669 yards and seven touchdowns. During the 2012 postseason, he had 14 receptions for 163 yards and three touchdowns in four games. He's played seven games since. but his role on the Super Bowl-winning squad can't be understated. Notable players taken after Pitta: Geno Atkins, Kam Chancellor.

    Obviously, the trade for Tebow didn't work out for the Broncos. They could have easily added several players in the 2010 draft to contribute right away, but hindsight is always 20-20. And Tebow did indeed help "lead" them to a playoff win, albeit largely thanks to the team's defensive surge late in the year.
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  • #2
    As bad as this trade was...nothing can surpass the Alphonso Smith trade.....WE COULD HAVE HAD EARL THOMAS!!!!
    Last edited by Gbt31; 03-03-2016, 04:04 AM.
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    • #3
      The Broncos really never spent a ton of time with Tebow and IMO really moved on form him a bit briskly IMO. He has a bit of an adhoc style like Russell Wilson and needs ot be given coaching and a few game reps to properly develop at the NFL level. Let's also not forget that the guys he was learning behind were pathetic...which I am certain didn't help him either.

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      • #4
        IMO the things done with our draft picks under McD's time is criminal.

        Do not let anyone convince u we HAD to go through that to get to 50

        Better decisions could have led to us winning those McD years AND winning 50

        That loss to the Raiders....anyone responsible for that should be shamed for ever

        Blowing 6-0 start....yea...

        Does McDipstick even get interviews for jobs outside NE now a days?

        Pretty sure work will be hard to find for a few people when Brady is gone....as former NE coaches have already found out
        Last edited by Hadez; 03-02-2016, 12:25 PM.
        Time to build on the win and grow the team from some solid play higher level of play

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        • #5
          Shanahan was just as bad, if not worse. He's also the ONLY QB IN DEN HISTORY, who was drafted BY DEN, to win a playoff game.

          The rest were FA pickups

          Also Tebow in 16 games had more TDs than those TEs combined, and Pitta & Kindle are out of the league permanently
          Last edited by HUMCALC; 03-02-2016, 12:45 PM.
          "Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion." Jimmy Ruffin

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hadez View Post
            IMO the things done with our draft picks under McD's time is criminal.

            Do not let anyone convince u we HAD to go through that to get to 50

            Better decisions could have led to us winning those McD years AND winning 50

            That loss to the Raiders....anyone responsible for that should be shamed for ever

            Blowing 6-0 start....yea...

            Does McDipstick even get interviews for jobs outside NE now a days?

            Pretty sure work will be hard to find for a few people when Brady is gone....as former NE coaches have already found out
            I agree that bad decisions were made, and that we did not have to go through that period to win The SB. But my positive side tells me that things do happen for a reason, and in spite of the mess we were in, we made good things out of it (largely thru Elway and his management team)......and who knows for sure if we would have a Lombardi had better decisions been made back then. No one knows. So in that regard, we made the tastiest lemonade out of lemons.

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            • #7
              Without Tebow, doubt we get Manning, doubt we go to 2 SBs and win one...Tebow indirectly won us a SB!
              Ravens GM 2016 - Ravens are looking to trade down 4-8 spots

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              • #8
                Does any of this really matter anymore? Denver won the Superbowl this year so clearly, they've overcome any and all free agency and draft mistakes.

                Baltimore won a trade? ok

                Denver won the Superbowl this year.

                Of course, if JMD was still the HC around here, who knows where we'd be. And that's who made those choices back then.
                The beatings will continue until morale improves....

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                • #9
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CanDB View Post
                    So in that regard, we made the tastiest lemonade out of lemons.
                    Was talking this over with a friend at work.

                    They did point out without having the 2nd worse record in the NFL and the rookie cap we do not have Von Miller nor the cap space we have had since getting him.

                    Not only was the 2nd overall pick nice but it was a good draft to have that pick. Not just cause of the cap but also the talent in that draft.
                    Time to build on the win and grow the team from some solid play higher level of play

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                    • #11
                      There is no sense talking about this now. We have Elway as a GM, and he has done an excellent job. There is no reason to speak of the butterfly effect, or woulda, coulda, shoulda. We are world champs...Three time world champs that is. Not many teams can say that.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by HUMCALC View Post
                        Shanahan was just as bad, if not worse. He's also the ONLY QB IN DEN HISTORY, who was drafted BY DEN, to win a playoff game.

                        The rest were FA pickups

                        Also Tebow in 16 games had more TDs than those TEs combined, and Pitta & Kindle are out of the league permanently

                        He was not as bad..... not even close.

                        Of course a QB will have more TD's....thats a no brainer....

                        Tebow is out of the league permanently....
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                        • #13
                          That trade set the motion either directly or indirectly to our Super Bowl victory,
                          so maybe we won?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by HUMCALC View Post
                            Shanahan was just as bad, if not worse. He's also the ONLY QB IN DEN HISTORY, who was drafted BY DEN, to win a playoff game.

                            The rest were FA pickups

                            Also Tebow in 16 games had more TDs than those TEs combined, and Pitta & Kindle are out of the league permanently
                            John Elway was a "FA pickup"?

                            First I've heard of that. I always thought we traded Chris Hinton, Mark Hermann, and a 1st Round Pick in 1984 for the John Elway who not only never played a down for the Baltimore Colts, but had let it be known that he would rather play baseball than play football for an Irsay-owned team.

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                            • #15
                              Technically he is right. He was "drafted" by Colts and then traded for AFTER he was drafted by Colts.
                              New England Patriots GM

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