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    Just saw the new guys on the Broncos roster. Never heard about their signing in the news:

    TE Manasseh Garner
    RB Cyrus Gray
    P Will Johnson
    DB BJ Lowery
    WR Devier Posey
    OT Darrion Weems

    Any informations where they fit the roster? Do they habe a chance to get to the 53 roster?
    Thanks!
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    TE Manasseh Garner
    - Was with the Browns last season
    - expierenced FB/RB but was a TE/FB i believe in college
    - I suppose it depends on how well he does but I suspect that he is this years JJD to be honest I thought JJD did very well last Pre-season for us
    - QB in college was Savage (drafted last year I believe)
    Clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK6SlITJ6TE


    - RB Cyrus Gray
    - played behind Charles at KC
    - drafted in 2012
    - 0 touches in 2015
    - total career stats: 24 carries for 99 yards 4.1 YPC

    - WR Devier Posey
    - former Texan
    - 6ft1 210 lbs
    - Very few yards in his career
    Clip: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...-pass-to-Posey

    - P Will Johnson
    - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...how-at-pro-day
    - former Texan
    - not much on him

    - DB BJ Lowery
    - Arena league player
    - 5ft11 194 lbs
    - not much on him.
    - found a few articles where he was playing well in the arena league

    OT Darrion Weems
    - undrafted tackle form Oregon
    - been with 5 teams including ours this is his second stint here (on our PS in 2012)


    My guess is that Will & Britton wlll compete. I suspect that Manasseh will also be given a serious look for our FB/TE hybrid role. The others will compete but as always come camp time names and potential always shuffle around. Even though we are a needy team at RB i'd be shocked in Cyrus makes the roster.

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    • #3
      Id say that Lowery does since we are so ridiculously thin in dept at the position.

      But its a good problem to have, being do good that botj of your back uos at safety are signed away to start.

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      • #4
        Next man up, always improving the roster with the goal of : Winning. Trust the Organization I do.

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        • #5
          The only one I am even remotely familiar with is Cyrus Gray. He strikes me as the prototypical mediocre running back. Lacks impact speed or power. Isn't an impressive receiver out of the backfield. His strengths are his acceleration and body control, as well as his shiftiness in quick/small lateral movements. Seems to have decent vision, but again, not so much so that it appears to be outstanding. He is worth keeping around in case of injury but I think Bibbs would have more of an impact. If we had to do it we could get by with Anderson/Thompson/Bibbs/Gray.

          Manessah Garner is listed as a FB on the roster according to this:

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          • #6
            Originally posted by listopencil View Post
            The only one I am even remotely familiar with is Cyrus Gray. He strikes me as the prototypical mediocre running back. Lacks impact speed or power. Isn't an impressive receiver out of the backfield. His strengths are his acceleration and body control, as well as his shiftiness in quick/small lateral movements. Seems to have decent vision, but again, not so much so that it appears to be outstanding. He is worth keeping around in case of injury but I think Bibbs would have more of an impact. If we had to do it we could get by with Anderson/Thompson/Bibbs/Gray.

            Manessah Garner is listed as a FB on the roster according to this:

            http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/roste...denver-broncos
            I do not understand the "just get by" reasoning. Broncos need to have an upgrade at RB.

            If everything remains the same, the offense will rely on the offense to run the ball more this year. And it has to work! New o-line, new QB, new system, questionable durability with Anderson.

            I want another stud RB to add to the mix. I want a difference maker. I have been advocating Henry for his power and size impact. But I am open to whatever type RB Kubiak needs...power, speed or all purpose. Just an impact RB to combo with Anderson.

            Relying on average RBs this year is a mistake IMO. Thompson, Bibbs and Gray are all nice reliable 3rd/4th stringers for use if the starter goes down for a couple games. Not as full time rotation players.

            Draft a dynamic RB.

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            • #7
              I remember Posey when he was at Ohio St. I always thought if he could have gotten in the right situation that he could have shown some potential. If I recall, he got into trouble at school, possibly part of the whole tattoo scandal.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by FR Tim View Post
                I do not understand the "just get by" reasoning.
                So, you don't understand complex situations with multiple possible outcomes. OK.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by listopencil View Post
                  So, you don't understand complex situations with multiple possible outcomes. OK.
                  Sounds complicated.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
                    Sounds complicated.
                    Hah. The thing is, we don't have to upgrade from CJ Anderson. We have to upgrade from Hillman. That particular upgrade may already be on the roster.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by listopencil View Post
                      Hah. The thing is, we don't have to upgrade from CJ Anderson. We have to upgrade from Hillman. That particular upgrade may already be on the roster.
                      Well it looks like Elway wants to keep Hillman...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by osfantaztic View Post
                        Well it looks like Elway wants to keep Hillman...

                        http://www.9news.com/sports/nfl/denv...lman/118646731
                        He's trying to put together the best group of ninety guys he can for TC. Denver only has about sixty at the moment.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by listopencil View Post
                          So, you don't understand complex situations with multiple possible outcomes. OK.
                          Sounds impressive when you say it. I was thinking of it as settling for mediocrity.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FR Tim View Post
                            I do not understand the "just get by" reasoning. Broncos need to have an upgrade at RB.

                            If everything remains the same, the offense will rely on the offense to run the ball more this year. And it has to work! New o-line, new QB, new system, questionable durability with Anderson.

                            I want another stud RB to add to the mix. I want a difference maker. I have been advocating Henry for his power and size impact. But I am open to whatever type RB Kubiak needs...power, speed or all purpose. Just an impact RB to combo with Anderson.

                            Relying on average RBs this year is a mistake IMO. Thompson, Bibbs and Gray are all nice reliable 3rd/4th stringers for use if the starter goes down for a couple games. Not as full time rotation players.

                            Draft a dynamic RB.
                            Henry can be a great RB the issue with him though - IMO is his quick acceleration. HE isn't a fast guy to get up to speed. I have been looking at his tape and he isn't shifty. He is a real power runner who would really grind down a defense because he is big, tall and strong. If our Oline can open larger lanes and allow for multiple strides untouched then Henry can get himself to speed and likely cause some real havoc for us if we draft him. What I question, personally, is if we don't already have a potential "bigger back" in Thonpson. I suppose the other things which I'd just find odd is that a FB would almost definitely be smaller than Henry...if I recall correctly Henry measured 6ft2 or 6ft3 at the combine and weighed in at 247....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rich_C View Post
                              Henry can be a great RB the issue with him though - IMO is his quick acceleration. HE isn't a fast guy to get up to speed. I have been looking at his tape and he isn't shifty. He is a real power runner who would really grind down a defense because he is big, tall and strong. If our Oline can open larger lanes and allow for multiple strides untouched then Henry can get himself to speed and likely cause some real havoc for us if we draft him. What I question, personally, is if we don't already have a potential "bigger back" in Thonpson. I suppose the other things which I'd just find odd is that a FB would almost definitely be smaller than Henry...if I recall correctly Henry measured 6ft2 or 6ft3 at the combine and weighed in at 247....
                              Not meaning to turn this thread into a Henry discussion. I realize some find it ludicrous. I don't. He brings a unique skillset to the field. I also think some are over emphasizing the "slow to the line" rhetoric. He isn't a speed RB. You have to adjust your thinking and expectations to match his talents.

                              Kind of like comparing the skillsets of a pocket passer to a scrambler. Or d-line run stopper or skilled pass rusher. You adjust your expectations to match the strengths and weaknesses.

                              My issue is that an increased emphasis on the rushing this year needs better RBs. Anderson is a nice RB if he can become more reliable and stay healthy. The others, including Hillman it seems, are good but not great. I want a little more impact capabilities then I think Gray, Thompson or Bibbs can provide. Kind of funny that last year I was advocating an upgrade of a speed RB to replace Hillman. Now I find myself on the other side of the spectrum wanting to go with a chain mover with the capability of busting big runs to pair with Anderson.

                              I realize the odds of Henry being drafted in the 1st are slim at best. But a certainly want a RB drafted within the first 4 picks. Elawy and Kubiak will decide if it is a power, speed or all-purpose type back they want to emphasize. They might very well go for a speed back.

                              All part of the fun to see how they build the team this off-season.

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