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  • orange crush75
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    They can't actually take him off until after game 8. The 21 day window for practicing isn't connected to when he has to come off of IR. In theory a team could remove a player from IR without him having practiced once, as long as the player has missed 8 games minimum and they have an activation slot left.

    The 21 day window essentially buys the team a roster exemption because the player is practicing but doesn't count against the 53 man roster. Once they start the 21 day window going the player must either be activated during that window or the player is lost to IR for the remainder of the season.
    Oh ok thanks for the info . Dang . I'm just looking forward to see him practice and start getting ready to be a starter.

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  • FL BRONCO
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    They can't actually take him off until after game 8. The 21 day window for practicing isn't connected to when he has to come off of IR. In theory a team could remove a player from IR without him having practiced once, as long as the player has missed 8 games minimum and they have an activation slot left.

    The 21 day window essentially buys the team a roster exemption because the player is practicing but doesn't count against the 53 man roster. Once they start the 21 day window going the player must either be activated during that window or the player is lost to IR for the remainder of the season.
    Thanks BBN

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by orange crush75 View Post
    They should have took Lock off IR . So what if your not practicing that much . Delaying 1 week makes it to where he cant play until week 11 ? That's nuts . Not saying hes gonna play but you should keep your options open .
    They can't actually take him off until after game 8. The 21 day window for practicing isn't connected to when he has to come off of IR. In theory a team could remove a player from IR without him having practiced once, as long as the player has missed 8 games minimum and they have an activation slot left.

    The 21 day window essentially buys the team a roster exemption because the player is practicing but doesn't count against the 53 man roster. Once they start the 21 day window going the player must either be activated during that window or the player is lost to IR for the remainder of the season.

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  • orange crush75
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    They should have took Lock off IR . So what if your not practicing that much . Delaying 1 week makes it to where he cant play until week 11 ? That's nuts . Not saying hes gonna play but you should keep your options open .

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  • brianmcfarlane
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    Did they change that this year? Cause previously IR players couldn't practice until being removed from IR. PUP list players however could start practicing after 6 weeks. If it's a change they made than it's a good one by the NFL. Now they just need to change the archaic IR rules and create different levels of IR (3,6,8 etc.) lists that you could put players on. And eliminate the stupid IR means you're done for the season, except for up to 2 players per team garbage.

    And as to the argument against changing IR ("Teams would cheat the system") just make it so the first penalty for trying to stash players using IR would be loss of a 1st round pick, and getting heavier after that, and teams won't do it.
    I did see this from Mike Klis ...

    "IR players on hold?

    Three Broncos players on injured reserve – quarterback Drew Lock, tight end Jake Butt and running back Theo Riddick – were eligible to start practicing Monday. However, because the Broncos aren’t really practicing this week – they have meetings and walkthrough type workouts scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday, those three players may be held back until next week to start practicing.

    If they don’t start practicing until next week as expected, those players wouldn’t be activated on the 53-man roster until the Minnesota game in week 11.

    Riddick may be held back a little longer as he continues to heal from his broken shoulder. The Broncos can only activate two players from IR. Those two players figure to come from Lock, Butt, Riddick and receiver Tim Patrick, who is also eligible to start practicing next week."

    I predict they will activate Lock for week 11. IMO, it makes sense to also activate Patrick, although it would be nice to have a healthy Jake Butt ... who gets cut though?

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by brianmcfarlane View Post
    He IS eligible to start practicing this week. He can practice after 6 weeks on IR. What I am not sure of is; does he have to be added to the 53 man roster in order to practice? I don't think so but they may have to consider him joined to the team but I think he is still exempt for 2 weeks of practice? Not sure.
    He could be eligible to play against the Browns but as Butler stated that is probably not practical, Min makes more sense especially since that is after the bye ... imo, he won't start for the team then either, I think they stick with Flacco until at least week 12, or longer if we are still in the playoff hunt.
    Did they change that this year? Cause previously IR players couldn't practice until being removed from IR. PUP list players however could start practicing after 6 weeks. If it's a change they made than it's a good one by the NFL. Now they just need to change the archaic IR rules and create different levels of IR (3,6,8 etc.) lists that you could put players on. And eliminate the stupid IR means you're done for the season, except for up to 2 players per team garbage.

    And as to the argument against changing IR ("Teams would cheat the system") just make it so the first penalty for trying to stash players using IR would be loss of a 1st round pick, and getting heavier after that, and teams won't do it.

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  • #87Birdman
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    Originally posted by brianmcfarlane View Post
    He IS eligible to start practicing this week. He can practice after 6 weeks on IR. What I am not sure of is; does he have to be added to the 53 man roster in order to practice? I don't think so but they may have to consider him joined to the team but I think he is still exempt for 2 weeks of practice? Not sure.
    He could be eligible to play against the Browns but as Butler stated that is probably not practical, Min makes more sense especially since that is after the bye ... imo, he won't start for the team then either, I think they stick with Flacco until at least week 12, or longer if we are still in the playoff hunt.
    Sounds like the ir members are eligible to practice but due to the short week it is more likely they will start next week. I almost positive they don't get added to the 53 until they are good to go. I think it is to see if they are healthy enough to go before making the decision.

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  • brianmcfarlane
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    Originally posted by orange crush75 View Post
    Ahh dang , I was thinking he could practice now . Oh well , thank for the info.
    He IS eligible to start practicing this week. He can practice after 6 weeks on IR. What I am not sure of is; does he have to be added to the 53 man roster in order to practice? I don't think so but they may have to consider him joined to the team but I think he is still exempt for 2 weeks of practice? Not sure.
    He could be eligible to play against the Browns but as Butler stated that is probably not practical, Min makes more sense especially since that is after the bye ... imo, he won't start for the team then either, I think they stick with Flacco until at least week 12, or longer if we are still in the playoff hunt.
    Last edited by brianmcfarlane; 10-15-2019, 03:32 PM.

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  • orange crush75
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    Ahh dang , I was thinking he could practice now . Oh well , thank for the info.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by orange crush75 View Post
    Does anyone know when they can bring Lock off the IR?
    He has to miss 8 games before being activated. So he will be eligible to return (assuming the Broncos decide to designate him to return) any time after the Colts game.

    He can't practice with the team until he's removed from the IR list. So hypothetically if the Broncos were looking to put him in as the starting QB, the game that would make sense would be their 10th game on November 17th in Minnesota. Because that would give him 3 weeks worth of practices (all of the practices leading up to the Browns game...probably as the scout team QB. The couple of practices in the bye week before the players get their time off, and the full week leading up to Minnesota) to get ready to go.

    I'm not saying whether they should or will make any change at QB, I'm just saying that barring injury, the time that makes the most sense would be November 17th.

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  • orange crush75
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    Does anyone know when they can bring Lock off the IR?

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    This could be a blessing in disguise. It will prevent them from rushing him to the field if we start to tank. He can work on his footwork
    I like how Fangio is including Lock....and other players...in as much as the team can.

    To paraphrase Vic..It is a crumb here and crumb there but it adds up to a whole loaf over time.

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  • Al Wilson 4 Mayor
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    This could be a blessing in disguise. It will prevent them from rushing him to the field if we start to tank. He can work on his footwork

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  • Rich_C
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    I don't know why so many are so shocked by this. Unless Lock can be back in 1-3 weeks then he SHOULD be on IR. What the bigger story here should be is do we cut both Brett AND Hogan and bring in someone else OR do we keep Brett and hope Flacco can make it at minimum to week 8.

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  • orange crush75
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    Originally posted by rst08tierney View Post
    Return to OZ part 3?
    Hope not......

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