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FWIW, it sounds like the Dolphins are ready to move on from Kiko Alonso, maybe they just outright cut him
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Originally posted by samparnell View PostDoes Butler use as much Zone Blitz as LeBeau did?
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Originally posted by samparnell View PostDoes Butler use as much Zone Blitz as LeBeau did?
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Originally posted by Spice 1 View PostButler uses the same principles as LeBeau. He coached under him for 12 years.
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Originally posted by brianmcfarlane View PostLebeau isn't with Pittsburgh anymore he did go to the Titans in 2015 but looks like he retired in 2017 ... he is 81 now. Because of Ryan Shazier being injured I think they felt they had a need there more than the Broncos. They seem to still value LBs in their scheme but no longer with Lebeau.
TEs do seem to take 1-2 years to really come on at the NFL level, you're right we might need to be patient with Fant. I would've liked it if they drafted Bush.
Main difference is 2 gap 3-4 to 1 gap. Butler may value fast linebackers more than even Lebeau did because of that.Last edited by Spice 1; 08-27-2019, 10:52 AM.
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Originally posted by Rich_C View PostThe question will be do we want him playing? I mean so much of those comments are predicated on the fact that WHEN he returns he will be at top notch and in peak form. Given how long this has taken him and that he is ALWAYS hurt now it seems is it even worth it? Will he be better than Wilk? - my opinion is likely not. When you're coming back form being hurt THAT much and for THAT long there are usually issues. There will likely also be a decline in play. At this point we already know where Ron will be at. So is a 60% Ron better than a 100% Wilk? - Again I say no.
Leary's health is a bit of a mystery. He has practiced some, but hasn't played in preseason. He probably doesn't need much practice to be ready for the season opener. It seems the approach of the coaching and training staffs has been not to do anything in TC/Preseason to hinder his ability to start the season. When Denver opens at Oakland, it will have been almost eight weeks since TC began.
Time will tell.
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Originally posted by Spice 1 View PostI only watched a few plays of the Steelers/Titans game, and that was mostly by the Steelers offense for Fantasy Recon purposes. What I did watch of the Steelers defense didn't look bad where Bush is concerned. On TEN's first run, they couldn't get to him in time on a stretch play, and he took Lewis down in the backfield. The other play I watched, Lewan just said screw it and ran straight to Bush so the RB could get the edge. I wouldn't call that bad, because it took an All Pro going out of his way to block him.
I didn't watch the whole game, so maybe he did struggle most of the time. Just reporting on what I did see. What I have seen of Bush so far has impressed me.
PIT's, or I guess you could call it LeBeau's scheme (I'm sure Sam will come along to elaborate), is very ILB dependent. They have to be able to do everything, and that's probably why they had a higher value on him than most teams would. I also get the idea of getting the most valuable weapon for our new OC, while also acquiring another pick. The one that I don't get is if Mack Wilson was never on our radar, and we wouldn't have taken him if Cleveland didn't. That's all speculation though. You have to think JE consulted Fangio about ILB this offseason, and that's why we didn't address it. We'll see how it goes.
We have to be patient with Fant though. Tight ends taken in the first round, especially after the top 15 rarely blow up until after a year or two.
TEs do seem to take 1-2 years to really come on at the NFL level, you're right we might need to be patient with Fant. I would've liked it if they drafted Bush.
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Originally posted by samparnell View PostIt would be great if he could start and play this year. Wilkinson could be Swing Tackle and maybe Schlottmann could provide inside depth. They might pick up an O-Lineman after cuts.
Good links!
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Originally posted by FL BRONCO View PostIt was very cool them making the move now so these guys have more time to catch on elsewhere
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Originally posted by Papa-pwn View PostBush didnt look very good this last week. Was getting washed out of the run almost every play
I didn't watch the whole game, so maybe he did struggle most of the time. Just reporting on what I did see. What I have seen of Bush so far has impressed me.
PIT's, or I guess you could call it LeBeau's scheme (I'm sure Sam will come along to elaborate), is very ILB dependent. They have to be able to do everything, and that's probably why they had a higher value on him than most teams would. I also get the idea of getting the most valuable weapon for our new OC, while also acquiring another pick. The one that I don't get is if Mack Wilson was never on our radar, and we wouldn't have taken him if Cleveland didn't. That's all speculation though. You have to think JE consulted Fangio about ILB this offseason, and that's why we didn't address it. We'll see how it goes.
We have to be patient with Fant though. Tight ends taken in the first round, especially after the top 15 rarely blow up until after a year or two.
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Originally posted by WYBRONCO View PostFant is going to be great if he stays healthy. Watson should get scooped by another team soon, he can play special teams and can at times pass rush. Kerr wasn't necessarily better than other backups but he looked pretty solid to me. Purcell played quite well against the Rams. Maybe that was enough to justify the Kerr cut,
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Originally posted by Champ>NFL View PostFant is going to be a great draft pick
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Originally posted by Murph2432 View PostFant better become a all pro TE because we could have used Devin Bush badly right about now. I starting to believe we may have made a big mistake trading with the Steelers and skipping on Bush.
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Originally posted by Murph2432 View PostFant better become a all pro TE because we could have used Devin Bush badly right about now. I starting to believe we may have made a big mistake trading with the Steelers and skipping on Bush.
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Originally posted by Sam_Z View PostIf Denver wants an ILB or more O-line help, here’s a short list of available players-
Ryan Schreader, John Sullivan, Mason Foster, Andy Levitre, Josh Bynes, Jeremy Pernell.
Unless there’s a trade coming but I’m not predicting one.
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