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    Here's Kiper's newest mock draft released today. Interestingly, he has both Travis Johnson and Khalif Barnes dropping to the Broncos pick with T. Johnson being the pick. Can't imagine both will be there, but certainly nice options to have.

    http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05...CMP=ILC-INHEAD

  • #2
    Originally posted by jletourneau
    Here's Kiper's newest mock draft released today. Interestingly, he has both Travis Johnson and Khalif Barnes dropping to the Broncos pick with T. Johnson being the pick. Can't imagine both will be there, but certainly nice options to have.

    http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05...CMP=ILC-INHEAD
    Can you post his first round for those who don't have access? If not no big deal. Thanks for the update!

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    • #3
      1. San Francisco 49ers: Aaron Rodgers (jr.), QB, California
      Virtually nothing separates Rodgers and Utah quarterback Alex Smith, but Rodgers gets the nod because of his local roots and the fact that he conducted an outdoor workout for the 49ers while Smith threw the ball indoors in Salt Lake City. A trade down is still possible, but with no consensus No. 1 player it remains to be seen whether San Francisco will receive an offer equal to the normal value of the No. 1 overall pick.


      2. Miami Dolphins: Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn
      A complete back with power, speed and size, Brown is adept at catching the ball out of the backfield. New Dolphins coach Nick Saban is very familiar with Brown after spending the last few seasons in the SEC West and Brown would be a great addition for a team whose running game was sorely lacking last season.

      3. Cleveland Browns: Alex Smith (jr.), QB, Utah
      New coach Romeo Crennel needs a quarterback,and Smith has the smarts, accuracy and mobility teams look for. Smith is only 20 years old and would be a nice place to start as the Browns look to rebuild.


      4. Chicago Bears: Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan
      Edwards has the size and athletic ability to make defensive backs sweat. He would be a terrific addition opposite Muhsin Muhammad, who signed as a free agent, and allow quarterback Rex Grossman to open things up a bit.


      5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Carnell Williams, RB, Auburn
      Williams gets tough yards inside despite lacking ideal size thanks to deceptive speed and tremendous feel for running in traffic. He scored 29 rushing TDs over the last two years, and Tampa coach Jon Gruden is very familiar with him after coaching Williams in the Senior Bowl.


      6. Tennessee Titans: Antrel Rolle, CB, Miami
      Rolle ran a 4.49 in the 40 during his individual workout and his size gives him an advantage over Pac-Man Jones of West Virginia, who was projected in this spot in my last mock draft. Cornerback is a major need position for the Titans and Rolle brings plenty of experience against big-time competition to the table.


      7. Minnesota Vikings (from Oakland): Mike Williams (jr.), WR, USC
      Williams has the size, strength and hands to be a perfect replacement for Randy Moss, who was traded for a package that included this pick. The Vikings have needs on defense as well but Williams will immediately address Minnesota's biggest loss of the offseason.


      8. Arizona Cardinals: Cedric Benson, RB, Texas
      Benson is basically equal to the two running backs projected ahead or him and is a little better as a blocker, which is key to NFL teams. Getting a player of his caliber at No. 8 would be a major victory for a team that needs a big-time back. This could change, though, if the Cardinals work out a trade for disgruntled Buffalo running back Travis Henry.


      9. Washington Redskins: Adam "Pac-Man" Jones (jr.), CB, West Virginia
      The Redskins would not only get a tough, aggressive corner who is good in run support but also a dynamic return man, someone in the mold of former Washington standout Darrell Green. Jones has tremendous speed and instincts.


      10. Detroit Lions: Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas
      The first pick that falls under the "best available player" category. The Lions don't have a pressing need at outside linebacker but Johnson would be an upgrade at that position and allow Detroit some flexibility at linebacker with players such as Teddy Lehman and Boss Bailey already there.


      11. Dallas Cowboys: Shawne Merriman (jr.), DE/OLB, Maryland
      A workout warrior with incredible physical skills, Merriman would be an ideal end/linebacker combo in a 3-4 scheme. Not many players have the ability to start from a three-point stance or play on their feet at 274 pounds. Merriman is reminiscent of Patriots linebacker Willie McGinest, who was the first draft pick of the Patriots when current Cowboys coach Bill Parcells began his tenure in New England.


      12. San Diego Chargers: Marcus Spears, DE, LSU
      The Chargers need more playmakers on the front seven and Spears would be a good option for providing pressure along the defensive front. He fits perfectly into San Diego's 3-4 scheme with his ability to play both the run and the pass, and at over 300 pounds he will be able to occupy blockers and allow linebackers to run to the ball.


      13. Houston Texans: Alex Barron, OT, Florida State
      The Texans had an interest in St. Louis veteran Orlando Pace but did not get him, and with quarterback David Carr needing more protection, the versatile Barron an ideal fit. He is very strong in the lower body and has quick feet in pass protection.


      14. Carolina Panthers: Troy Williamson (jr.), WR, South Carolina
      Williamson showed great speed at the combine and would be a nice option for a team that lost Muhsin Muhammad in free agency. Williamson did not play in a passing offense in college but has the speed all teams are looking for.


      15. Kansas City Chiefs: Demarcus Ware, DE/OLB, Troy
      The Chiefs likely will dedicate most of their draft to defense, and Ware is a solid end/outside linebacker combo in the mold of Peter Boulware who will help the front seven generate some heat on the passer.


      16. New Orleans Saints: Thomas Davis (jr.), S/OLB, Georgia
      A college safety who projects to linebacker at the next level because of his size, Davis is a punishing tackler with big-play ability whose weakness in coverage will not be exposed at linebacker the way it could be at safety.

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      • #4
        17. Cincinnati Bengals: Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn
        Rogers was a steady, reliable player at Auburn and was perhaps the Tigers' best defensive player last season. He has plenty of experience against top-shelf SEC competition and his aggressive attitude would make him a nice fit in Marvin Lewis' defensive scheme.


        18. Minnesota Vikings: Dan Cody, DE, Oklahoma
        The Vikings drafted end Kenechi Udeze in the first round last year, but the defensive line is a major need area for Minnesota and Cody has enough athleticism to be able to play on his feet at times. Cody also has a great motor and never quits so he would fit in nicely under head coach Mike Tice.


        19. St. Louis Rams: Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma
        Orlando Pace is a Pro Bowler at left tackle but the Rams need a right tackle in the worst way. Brown had an outstanding season as both a pass and run blocker and his good feet and long arms allow him to move defenders off the line or away from the quarterback.


        20. Dallas Cowboys (from Buffalo): Roddy White, WR, UAB
        Getting Merriman at No. 11 would allow the Cowboys to fill another major void with White, who averaged 20 yards per catch during his senior season and was very good at both the Senior Bowl and the combine. The acquisition of quarterback Drew Bledsoe means the Cowboys will have to find him some help in the passing game.


        21. Jacksonville Jaguars: Marlin Jackson, CB, Michigan
        Jack Del Rio's team is thin in the secondary and Jackson showed in his individual workout that he has the necessary speed to play corner at the NFL level. He also has good size and a lot of experience against some of the best wideouts in the country. Don't forget, he went head-to-head with Braylon Edwards every day in practice.


        22. Baltimore Ravens: Mark Clayton, WR, Oklahoma
        Arguably the most polished receiver in the draft, Clayton has speed and athleticism that make him one of the most dangerous receivers after the catch to come along in recent years. His presence would help the Ravens overhaul a passing attack that was bolstered with the free-agent signing of Derrick Mason.


        23. Seattle Seahawks: David Pollack, DE, Georgia
        The Seahawks need a pass rusher with a big-time motor and Pollack fits the bill with his intensity and nose for the ball. An ideal fit for Mike Holmgren's team if he lasts this long on the board.

        24. Green Bay Packers: Erasmus James, DE, Wisconsin
        The Packers need someone to complement end Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila and James would do just that. He can play the run and pass equally well, and would have been a top-five pick had injury/durability questions not come into play.


        25. Denver Broncos: Travis Johnson, DT, Florida State
        The Broncos signed several former Cleveland players along the defensive line but only one, end Ebenezer Ekuban, who was productive last season. Johnson improved tremendously last season and would provide a big-time presence inside who could collapse the pocket, stuff the run and occupy blockers.


        26. New York Jets: Fabian Washington (jr.), CB, Nebraska
        With Marlin Jackson moving up thanks to a good workout, Washington falls to the Jets. He is arguably the best athlete among all the cornerback prospects, though, and is the fastest of the group. Washington was a safety/corner combo in college who did not really play to the level of a first-round pick but his workouts showed his potential and moved him up.


        27. Atlanta Falcons: Shaun Cody, DE/DT, USC
        Atlanta needs both an end and a tackle along the defensive front, and Cody showed in college the versatility to play either position. He was a major contributor to the nation's No. 1 run defense last season.


        28. San Diego Chargers: Khalif Barnes, OT, Washington
        Barnes overcame a late-season wrist injury and had a terrific week at the Senior Bowl, and if he can sustain his concentration and intensity for 60 minutes a week he will fill a big need for the Chargers and their young offensive stars.


        29. Indianapolis Colts: Matt Roth, DE, Iowa
        His presence would take a lot of pressure off stud pass rusher Dwight Freeney and give a boost to a defense that has been a problem area for the Colts in recent seasons.


        30. Pittsburgh Steelers: Heath Miller (jr.), TE, Virginia
        A mid-first round talent who dropped down the board thanks to a hernia problem that required surgery after the college season. Miller still remains the best tight end prospect and would give Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger a nice option in the middle of the field.


        31. Philadelphia Eagles: Matt Jones, QB/WR, Arkansas
        Jones is shooting up the draft board after posting a 4.39 in the 40 at 6-foot-6, 240 pounds. He will have a tough transition to make from quarterback to wide receiver, but a championship-caliber team like the Eagles can afford to give him time to work his way into a new position. He looked like a fifth-round pick after the college season but his great workouts have helped immensely.


        32. New England Patriots: Justin Miller, CB, Clemson
        The Patriots were thin at corner last fall and Miller would fill that void nicely. He will be a nice nickel/dime back initially as he learns the system and gains experience, but he is also a great return man who will contribute on special teams.

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        • #5
          thanks, i wouldn't mind Johnson here...



          but he still has Derrick Johnson falling that far? Roddy White before Mark Clayton?


          ....those are my only 2 complants...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan


            25. Denver Broncos: Travis Johnson, DT, Florida State
            The Broncos signed several former Cleveland players along the defensive line but only one, end Ebenezer Ekuban, who was productive last season. Johnson improved tremendously last season and would provide a big-time presence inside who could collapse the pocket, stuff the run and occupy blockers.
            So Gan, do you agree with his assessment of Johnson? Is he what he says he is?
            Originally posted by boltzpride619
            What's so funny is seeing all this mess that the Donks and the fans have placed on themselves. Can you say Raiders.

            Originally posted by RunByDesign
            True comedy is observing the Self Imploding Organization that is the Raiders and then asking yourself this question:

            What separates them (Raiders) from us (Chargers)

            Answer: Championships.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RunByDesign
              So Gan, do you agree with his assessment of Johnson? Is he what he says he is?
              Personally, no.

              Travis Johnson is not as good as Darnell Dockett, and is basically a one year wonder that may or may not be a bust. The potential for bust is extremely high though. Travis Johnson is a Nose Tackle in a 4-3 just like Gerrard Warren. He'd definitely be better then anyone on our roster that's "signed" for 2006 though, but I would feel more comfortable taking a NT like Luis Castillo from Northwestern who has done it for 4 years, and not just 1 year like Johnson.

              I would not be thrilled with this pick. At best, he plays like Corey Simon. But, there is absolutely no reason to draft him if we plan on trying to resign Gerrard Warren as they are the exact same player, but Warren has better talent and size.

              I COMPLETELY agree that DT is our main need however.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan
                Personally, no.

                Travis Johnson is not as good as Darnell Dockett, and is basically a one year wonder that may or may not be a bust. The potential for bust is extremely high though. Travis Johnson is a Nose Tackle in a 4-3 just like Gerrard Warren. He'd definitely be better then anyone on our roster that's "signed" for 2006 though, but I would feel more comfortable taking a NT like Luis Castillo from Northwestern who has done it for 4 years, and not just 1 year like Johnson.

                I would not be thrilled with this pick. At best, he plays like Corey Simon. But, there is absolutely no reason to draft him if we plan on trying to resign Gerrard Warren as they are the exact same player, but Warren has better talent and size.

                I COMPLETELY agree that DT is our main need however.
                In your view, who is the best under tackle that will likely fall to us and be available at our pick?

                Castillo, then?
                Originally posted by boltzpride619
                What's so funny is seeing all this mess that the Donks and the fans have placed on themselves. Can you say Raiders.

                Originally posted by RunByDesign
                True comedy is observing the Self Imploding Organization that is the Raiders and then asking yourself this question:

                What separates them (Raiders) from us (Chargers)

                Answer: Championships.

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                • #9
                  ya but mel kiper isnt very good at mock drafts he is hardly ever right last years was pathetic go to www.nfldraftcountdown.com i've been following him for years and he is very accurate he got the first 15 right last year and only missed like 4 or 5 in the first that includes the chris perry and stephen jackson going to the teams they went to where nobody would think

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RunByDesign
                    In your view, who is the best under tackle that will likely fall to us and be available at our pick?

                    Castillo, then?
                    No, he's a NT as well.

                    Theoretically, Shaun Cody is the best Under Tackle prospect in this draft, though with his back problem and lack of athletic ability, he's a risk. Some experts believe he'd be better at DE.

                    I believe Mike Patterson is the best hands down and would be a GREAT choice at 25 in the first round if he's still available. If he was 2 inches taller, he'd be a top 15 choice. 2 inches mean jack to me, the guy gets it done, and has led USC for 3 straight years now.

                    After those two, you're looking at John Babineaux or CJ Mosely in the 2nd round. And after that, there is nobody on the radar.

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                    • #11
                      mock just updated today he has us taking Rodgers over Fabian now

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kerkhoff1
                        mock just updated today he has us taking Rodgers over Fabian now
                        Carlos Rogers won't last past 15 to the Chiefs. He's possibly the absolute best CB in this draft over Rolle and Jones. All 3 of those guys should go in the top 10.

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                        • #13
                          Yes, nfldraftcountdown.com is probably the best mock draft out there. Scott Wright is pretty good, even though he got the Steven Jackson pick for us wrong, but no one ever expected us to get DJ Williams anyways.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ttejuco
                            Yes, nfldraftcountdown.com is probably the best mock draft out there. Scott Wright is pretty good, even though he got the Steven Jackson pick for us wrong, but no one ever expected us to get DJ Williams anyways.
                            Actually, I called it.
                            Originally posted by boltzpride619
                            What's so funny is seeing all this mess that the Donks and the fans have placed on themselves. Can you say Raiders.

                            Originally posted by RunByDesign
                            True comedy is observing the Self Imploding Organization that is the Raiders and then asking yourself this question:

                            What separates them (Raiders) from us (Chargers)

                            Answer: Championships.

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