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  • We should draft a CB 1st round!

    Since we have the D-line and LB position set and dominate, we should upgrade the secondary. Middlebrooks is slow and wouldnt help against the colts. Alexander we saw what happeden to him. Shoate and Lesuer arent gonna step in and shine. Secondary is a weakness for us now, so thats why we should draft there 1st round.

    Teams need at least 3 good CB's. we had that with walls champ and herndon but now herndon's gone and we have to replace him with somebody who can actually catch.
    Last edited by Return of Lava; 04-09-2005, 12:37 PM.
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    I wouldn't mind adding to the depth of talent at CB, but I'd rather wait until one of our comp. picks. This is a pretty deep draft for corners and we should be able to get some pretty good talent after the 1st. Possibly Ronald Bartell Jr. or Antonio Perkins. Perkins would be as much for his punt return ability as anything. Also, I think Corey Webster may end up being a pretty good value pick for some team in the late second or early third round. Had he not returned for his senior year and gotten injured, he likely would have been a first round pick last year.

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    • #3
      I agree with Lava. We have no real depth in the secondary, especially at CB. I'd love to see us take Rogers out of Auburn in the first, but then again I wouldn't mind us taking DeMarcus Ware or Justin Tuck at DE either. We need some insurance for these new guys, as they haven't exactly had the best track record for injuries. The safety spot is another area I think we should address as well, but I don't see much value at that spot in the first round.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Return of Lava
        Since we have the D-line and LB position set and dominate, we should upgrade the secondary. Middlebrooks is slow and wouldnt help against the colts. Alexander we saw what happeden to him. Shoate and Lesuer arent gonna step in and shine. Secondary is a weakness for us now, so thats why we should draft there 1st round.

        Teams need at least 3 good CB's. we had that with walls champ and herndon but now herndon's gone and we have to replace him with somebody who can actually catch.
        Generally, teams use their first round pick on players they hope will be able to start in the near future (1st or 2nd year). We know Bailey is going to start and the Broncos seem convinced that Walls is going to be really good, so there seems little chance the Broncos will draft a cornerback in the first round. But I do agree we could use more depth back there.

        Our defensive line isn't entirely set. We have a ton of defensive linemen but almost all of them have big question marks attached to them. We could really use a top young talent on the D-line and cut free some of the more questionable players we have there.

        John Lynch isn't getting any younger and we could use help at safety if a good one drops to us. But there doesn't seem to be a top coverage safety in the draft so this probably isn't a top priority. But again because of Lynch's looming retirement, we just might look to his replacement this year.

        We could also take an offensive lineman with our first pick. We're short a starting-quality guard after cutting Neil. And Hamilton will eventually be taking over at center when Nalen retires so we'll need another guard. Plus, Lepsis can opt out of his contract next year to test the market. So who knows if he'll be back or not?

        Receiver could even be an option since Rod could retire at any time, Lelie has yet to develop his short to mid route game (great deep game though), and Watts hasn't shown for sure that he'll be our #3 guy (and eventual #2), although I think he will.

        Again, with Bailey and Walls scheduled to be our starting cornerbacks for awhile, I just don't see us taking one in the first round unless one of the very top guys freakishly fell to us. But D-Line, O-Line, safety, and even receiver could all be starting if not this year then next.
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        • #5
          I have been saying that you dominate a game by dominating the line. A bad dline (like last year) can make great corners bad, a good line makes an average corner great. INTs come from pressure and resulting bad throws most of the time. Poor decisions make for turnovers (look at Plummer and his ints, pressure and quickly).
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          • #6
            I think instead of a Corner, we should draft a Playmaker coverage safety. That's what we need more than defensive line help at this time.

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            • #7
              We need a CB we dont even have a decent 2nd CB. We can move Walls to FS and be okay at saftey but we still wouldnt have a 2nd CB.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by GridironChamp
                We need a CB we dont even have a decent 2nd CB. We can move Walls to FS and be okay at saftey but we still wouldnt have a 2nd CB.
                walls IS a decent 2nd CB, and i dont think he'll be moved to FS, no chance of that happening, middlebrooks had his best season last year, giving us a decent nickel corner as well, so we seem ok in that area, the only problem is injuries

                as i see it, the most likely safety tandem will be lynch at SS, ferg at FS, unless we draft someone to shake that up
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dbdom
                  walls IS a decent 2nd CB, and i dont think he'll be moved to FS, no chance of that happening, middlebrooks had his best season last year, giving us a decent nickel corner as well, so we seem ok in that area, the only problem is injuries

                  as i see it, the most likely safety tandem will be lynch at SS, ferg at FS, unless we draft someone to shake that up
                  Yeah, I think the Broncos are happy with Walls at cornerback and have no intention of moving him.

                  As to safety, another thread suggested Thomas Davis as our first round pick and I think that could be a good idea. He's still got some learning to do in pass coverage but he's got all the physical skills needed to be great. Lynch and Ferguson would allow us time to get Davis up to speed for next year when we'll have to start worrying about Lynch retiring.
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                  • #10
                    We suck at picking 1st rd cornerbacks.

                    The d-line is not "set", if we get Cody or Pollack, then it's set. You want a great cornerback? Rush the friggin quarterback.

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                    • #11
                      personally OL and DL have more important holes to fill than CB. With all the 3-4 teams next year alot of good talent will fall to us. If jammal brown fell to us he should be our pick.
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                      • #12
                        Set for best available?

                        In analyzing our offseason moves thus far, I've come to the conclusion we're setting ourselves up for best available picks. Here's why:

                        -We loaded up on D-line both acquiring and resigning. Spending a 1st rounder on D-line may set us up for the future, but anyone we draft will not see sufficient playing time this year and will probably be third string or practice squad. Unless whomever it is absolutely dominates in camp I'm not seeing a D-lineman being anymore than situational at best. I see D-line as a first rounder only if we can can get exactly who we want.

                        -The loss of Herndon and Middlebrooks' health issues have raised a concern for depth in the secondary, but our starters are set for next year and we'd like to develop Leseuer and Roc. If someone like Carlos Rodgers falls to 25 we'd grab him but other than that, there's depth in the later rounds. There really isn't a safety in this draft worth spending a 1st on.

                        -WR is a concern, not for the present, but for a replacement to Rod Smith. Lelie just isn't the guy and I have my doubts about Watts ever being more than a solid third. If one of the top 4-5 WRs falls to 25 we might just nab him to groom him as a successor.

                        -O-line is also a concern because of the Lepsis situation. I don't think it'll be as big a deal as people think because I think we'll re-sign Lepsis. Shanny seems to like him. I can see us grabbing a guard with one of our comp picks.

                        -ST is an issue and a reliable punter/KO specialist would be nice as well as a solid KR. These are 6th-7th rounders.

                        In looking for an impact-type player I think our best bet is to go WR or CB in the 1st they seem to have a better history of late (not neccesarily with the Broncos). I think we'll just take the best player available, though because there isn't any position of "dire need" anymore.

                        -Thoughts?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Return of Lava
                          Since we have the D-line and LB position set and dominate, we should upgrade the secondary. Middlebrooks is slow and wouldnt help against the colts. Alexander we saw what happeden to him. Shoate and Lesuer arent gonna step in and shine. Secondary is a weakness for us now, so thats why we should draft there 1st round.

                          Teams need at least 3 good CB's. we had that with walls champ and herndon but now herndon's gone and we have to replace him with somebody who can actually catch.
                          Middlebrooks is slow? You sure about this? Shoate and Leseaur aren't going to step up? What makes you think so?

                          I guess my concern with your statement is that the two starters are not your concern. On the D Line and O Line WE HAVE STARTERS THAT HAVE QUESTION MARKS. We also have alot of money already tied up in CB. Teams generally don't spend money on three corners. The third and fourth corners on a team are generally not big money guys.

                          Now if you wanted a safety I would agree that could be an option. I really think if Davis falls we will have to look. This could be the replacement for Lynch. The guy has Atwater type skills.

                          I still think OL, DL, S are all a bigger priority early in the draft over CB. We can't afford, from a cap perspective, to throw first round money at a corner.

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                          • #14
                            It will just make no sense to me. If we want to spend that type of money on a CB, why would we not just keep Herndon?

                            Thats like selling an item for $5 dollars, and buying it back for $10 dollars (the draftpick counts as $5 bucks).

                            It makes no sense at all.

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                            • #15
                              If the Broncos were to go for a CB, they would be much better off doing this in the 2nd or 3rd round as there is not as big of a talent drop off at CB as there is at other need positions like OT or DT or even safety.

                              In the 2nd round, you could possibly still get players such as Bryant McFadden, Corey Webster (would have been a #1 last year), Stanley Wilson, Eric Green, etc.

                              In the 3rd round you still have an option on guys like Darrent Williams, Antonio Perkins and Ronald Bartell.

                              I understand someone like Justin Miller is a very good player with excellent return skills as well, but picking a CB in the 1st would give our overall draft class less value than it would by picking someone from a position of less depth early on like at DT or making a move to secure an OT in the first. It's still possible, not overly likely, but very possible that someone like Brown or Barnes could slide to 25.

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