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    1. Most importantly, Steelers have decided edge at quarterback. Plummer has played well, but Roethlisberger is the better QB and is playing loose along with a great deal of confidence.

    2. Denver's secondary can be exploited- Although Champ Bailey is an elite CB, the rest of the secondary is very vulnerable; especially the middle. Lynch is extremely overrated; especially in pass coverage. Look for Heath Miller to have another big day.

    3. Pittsburgh can concentrate on taking away Denver's running game because you don't have the passing game to keep us honest. Rod Smith is good but well past his prime. Ike Taylor can shut down any receiver in the league(as evidence look at Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison in recent weeks) Putzier and Lelie aren't enough, or perhaps they take away Lelie- either way your receivers aren't enought of a threat, especially with Plummer throwing to them.

    4. Eventually, Steelers will run the ball with success- when Steelers do that, no one can beat them.

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    Originally posted by Steelnightmare
    1. Most importantly, Steelers have decided edge at quarterback. Plummer has played well, but Roethlisberger is the better QB and is playing loose along with a great deal of confidence.

    2. Denver's secondary can be exploited- Although Champ Bailey is an elite CB, the rest of the secondary is very vulnerable; especially the middle. Lynch is extremely overrated; especially in pass coverage. Look for Heath Miller to have another big day.

    3. Pittsburgh can concentrate on taking away Denver's running game because you don't have the passing game to keep us honest. Rod Smith is good but well past his prime. Ike Taylor can shut down any receiver in the league(as evidence look at Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison in recent weeks) Putzier and Lelie aren't enough, or perhaps they take away Lelie- either way your receivers aren't enought of a threat, especially with Plummer throwing to them.

    4. Eventually, Steelers will run the ball with success- when Steelers do that, no one can beat them.

    LMAO!!!! You have got to be kidding or a very scared fan (I don't blame you).

    Lynch is one heck of a player (um, pro-bowl bound) and like NE had a crappy QB and receivers/offense.

    We have the 2nd rated run defense and will shut it down, so of course Ben will have to pass... into the arms of Fergson or Bailey, or Lynch or Darrent....pick your poison. I predict 6 (yes 6!) turnovers committed by the Steeler O..

    Shanny will have made adjustments to the O and our running attack so that it will not be shut out and will have a 200 yard running game. Time of possession will be Denver's. The game will be won by at least 10 points: Denver 31- Pitt 21

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    • #3
      While your run defense rates 2nd that is misleading as well- you actually give up 4 yards a carry which puts you about 16th in the league- nothing to brag about. The Steelers give up only 3.4 a carry. Sorry.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Steelnightmare
        1. Most importantly, Steelers have decided edge at quarterback. Plummer has played well, but Roethlisberger is the better QB and is playing loose along with a great deal of confidence. Jake Plummer is also playing with confidence. If anything, both of the QB's are a draw. Both are tough, can scramble and make plays. In case you didnt notice, Jake Plummer can now throw the ball in the pocket as well as bootleg out. I wouldnt underestimate Plummer. He can get it done.

        2. Denver's secondary can be exploited- Although Champ Bailey is an elite CB, the rest of the secondary is very vulnerable; especially the middle. Lynch is extremely overrated; especially in pass coverage. Look for Heath Miller to have another big day. Our secondary has shut down both Gates and Gonzo-twice EACH this year. Our entire secondary is healthy, and elevated by the play of Champ Bailey. Darrent Williams is a ball hawk. I look for an INT from him this weekend. And in the middle? Al Wilson and Co. Yes, our defense gives up yards-yet we manage to hold opponents to 10-13 points per game, and are +20 in turnovers....

        3. Pittsburgh can concentrate on taking away Denver's running game because you don't have the passing game to keep us honest. Rod Smith is good but well past his prime. Ike Taylor can shut down any receiver in the league(as evidence look at Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison in recent weeks) Putzier and Lelie aren't enough, or perhaps they take away Lelie- either way your receivers aren't enought of a threat, especially with Plummer throwing to them. Not enough? Dream on. Rod Smith is clutch, and makes big plays when needed. Ashley is getting more physical, and Jeb has a way of getting open-especially in a zone type defense. There is a huge soft spot in the middle of your defense, which Denver will take advantage of. And un-like other teams you have faced recently, Denver does not abandon the run. And even then, Jake Plummer has shown he can get it done with his arm and legs.
        4. Eventually, Steelers will run the ball with success- when Steelers do that, no one can beat them.
        The same can be said for Denver.

        Here's to a great game!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Steelnightmare
          1. Most importantly, Steelers have decided edge at quarterback. Plummer has played well, but Roethlisberger is the better QB and is playing loose along with a great deal of confidence.

          2. Denver's secondary can be exploited- Although Champ Bailey is an elite CB, the rest of the secondary is very vulnerable; especially the middle. Lynch is extremely overrated; especially in pass coverage. Look for Heath Miller to have another big day.

          3. Pittsburgh can concentrate on taking away Denver's running game because you don't have the passing game to keep us honest. Rod Smith is good but well past his prime. Ike Taylor can shut down any receiver in the league(as evidence look at Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison in recent weeks) Putzier and Lelie aren't enough, or perhaps they take away Lelie- either way your receivers aren't enought of a threat, especially with Plummer throwing to them.

          4. Eventually, Steelers will run the ball with success- when Steelers do that, no one can beat them.
          1. Roethlisberger is a year or two away from being the QB you think he is right now. He doesnt have any advantage over Plummer at this time. In other words Plummer and Roethlisberger are both about even at the position.

          2. You must not be to UP on our secondary. Our rookies are unknown but are playing very well. Ward and Champ may cancel each other out. Your other recievers are by no means dominant. Our rooks will ok with them. Ben still better be careful throwing to Champs side. Ask Brees, Brady, Green and many others.

          3. We run on everyone at will. Smith isnt Chad or Harrison. He gets the job done on any corner. BTW we move the ball on defenses that are as good as yours.

          4. We stop the run........every year

          It will be a great game, but you guys arent a lock to win it.

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          • #6
            Last the Pats dared Plummer to throw to Lelie, and Ashley responded with some big catches. The Broncos also have a major edge in special teams, which will be key for field position. I expect this to be a tight game that will go down to a field goal, and I'll take Elam over Jeff Reed any day of the week.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Steelnightmare
              1. Most importantly, Steelers have decided edge at quarterback. Plummer has played well, but Roethlisberger is the better QB and is playing loose along with a great deal of confidence.

              3. Pittsburgh can concentrate on taking away Denver's running game because you don't have the passing game to keep us honest. Rod Smith is good but well past his prime. Ike Taylor can shut down any receiver in the league(as evidence look at Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison in recent weeks) Putzier and Lelie aren't enough, or perhaps they take away Lelie- either way your receivers aren't enought of a threat, especially with Plummer throwing to them.
              Ok, I will just take the passing points, and let someone else deal with the other dribble.

              • Ok, how many 1100 passers does the Steelers have? Oh yea, none.
              • How many 1,000 yard receivers? None
              • The Broncos have one 1100 yard receiver and one with nearly 800 yards. Hines Ward at 975 is the only Pitt's guy with over 600
              • Denver's top two receivers = 1875 -- Pitt's 1533
              • Denver's top 4 receivers = 2568 -- Pitt's 2443
              • Denver's RB duo = 1935 yards --- Pitt's 1570


              So, to say that Rod is past his prime, may or may not be true, but he apparently is better than the Pitt's guys 'in their prime', not to mention our number 2 WR has almost as many yards as Pitt's primary target.

              No need to address the running backs beyond the fact that the Broncos have a few less rushing attempts, but their RB's have nearly 25% more yards.

              So, the results Sunday will be all that really matters, but you talking nonsense smack won't change the results.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BroncFanIN
                The same can be said for Denver.

                Here's to a great game!
                great post......

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Frito1028
                  Last the Pats dared Plummer to throw to Lelie, and Ashley responded with some big catches. The Broncos also have a major edge in special teams, which will be key for field position. I expect this to be a tight game that will go down to a field goal, and I'll take Elam over Jeff Reed any day of the week.
                  There is no comparison between Steelers secondary and Patriots- Ike Taylor and Polamalu are two of the best in the leage at their respective positions. Bryant Mcfadden is turning into something special as well(see play on Reggie Wayne at end of Colts game)

                  Haha, good stuff about Rod Smith but this is 2006 not 1997- he is not on the same level as Chad Johnson, Harrison, or Reggie Wayne.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Steelnightmare
                    1. Most importantly, Steelers have decided edge at quarterback. Plummer has played well, but Roethlisberger is the better QB and is playing loose along with a great deal of confidence.
                    You mean like the Patriots had Tom Brady over Jake Plummer? What were Brady's stats in that game? You know, Brady is a considerably better QB than Roethlisberger. For that matter, so is Peyton Manning, so your logic needs some work.

                    2. Denver's secondary can be exploited- Although Champ Bailey is an elite CB, the rest of the secondary is very vulnerable; especially the middle. Lynch is extremely overrated; especially in pass coverage. Look for Heath Miller to have another big day.
                    You mean like we were exploited so badly by New England's Brady, Kansas City's Green, Oakland's Collins (who had Porter and Moss to throw to), San Diego's Brees, Philadelphia's McNabb, et al? Your logic is still showing it's holes. We give up yardage, because yards don't hurt us. We don't give up many points. We get very good field position and make you march the long field over and over and over and we continually pound you to make mistakes, penalties, bad throws and turnovers.

                    3. Pittsburgh can concentrate on taking away Denver's running game because you don't have the passing game to keep us honest. Rod Smith is good but well past his prime. Ike Taylor can shut down any receiver in the league(as evidence look at Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison in recent weeks) Putzier and Lelie aren't enough, or perhaps they take away Lelie- either way your receivers aren't enought of a threat, especially with Plummer throwing to them.
                    Well, talk is cheap, and while Jake hasn't put up the big numbers this season, he hasn't HAD to. We've had no end of teams that stacked the box to stop the run and force Plummer to beat them. It's practically a national mantra, repeated each week by national talking heads who assume that the old Plummer would return. It hasn't happened. Jake and his receivers consistently find the open guy and get the ball to him. You won't be any different. And after we prove that Jake CAN and WILL beat you, you drop back to stop the pass and then we run the ball right down your throat and eat the clock.

                    4. Eventually, Steelers will run the ball with success- when Steelers do that, no one can beat them.
                    You guys had the number three rush defense in the NFL. Sadly for you, the Broncos had the number 2. Once you get behind in points, you won't be running. Your tendency is to do the majority of your rushing to burn the clock once you get a lead. You are committed to the run, but not when you are losing, and you WILL be losing in the second half of the game. Once we make you one-dimensional, our defense will kick in and while you think you will throw with impunity on the Broncos, find that link on the web that shows that the Broncos respond much better to handling the blitz than Pittsburgh, and that teams that can consistently blitz Roethlisberger get results.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Frito1028
                      Last the Pats dared Plummer to throw to Lelie, and Ashley responded with some big catches. The Broncos also have a major edge in special teams, which will be key for field position. I expect this to be a tight game that will go down to a field goal, and I'll take Elam over Jeff Reed any day of the week.

                      I find it amusing that everyone says this will be a close game, like last week everyone said that and look what happened- Denver by 2 touchdowns. Like the last game of the regular season, everyone said the Chargers would win hands down (they were favored by 9.5 in that game!)

                      I respect the Steelers as they have had an awesome run, but it stops here on Sunday. Just because of home field, altitude, and the emotional rollercoaster Pitt has been on and also to win 3 road games is a huge feat for any team is too much to overcome and make it close in the end- Denver by 10 points!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Steelnightmare
                        There is no comparison between Steelers secondary and Patriots- Ike Taylor and Polamalu are two of the best in the leage at their respective positions. Bryant Mcfadden is turning into something special as well(see play on Reggie Wayne at end of Colts game)

                        Haha, good stuff about Rod Smith but this is 2006 not 1997- he is not on the same level as Chad Johnson, Harrison, or Reggie Wayne.
                        Rod never gets shut down. Despite what you heard.

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                        • #13
                          maybe you should check what other steelers fan have posted because this is the only argument thats been made and its weak. When you compare any stats we are better in 95% of the categories. The biggest one is our turnover ration to yours:

                          denver +20
                          pitt+7

                          can you see where thats a problem?
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                          • #14
                            Originally Posted by Steelnightmare
                            1. Most importantly, Steelers have decided edge at quarterback. Plummer has played well, but Roethlisberger is the better QB and is playing loose along with a great deal of confidence. Jake Plummer is also playing with confidence. If anything, both of the QB's are a draw. Both are tough, can scramble and make plays. In case you didnt notice, Jake Plummer can now throw the ball in the pocket as well as bootleg out. I wouldnt underestimate Plummer. He can get it done.

                            2. Denver's secondary can be exploited- Although Champ Bailey is an elite CB, the rest of the secondary is very vulnerable; especially the middle. Lynch is extremely overrated; especially in pass coverage. Look for Heath Miller to have another big day. Our secondary has shut down both Gates and Gonzo-twice EACH this year. Our entire secondary is healthy, and elevated by the play of Champ Bailey. Darrent Williams is a ball hawk. I look for an INT from him this weekend. And in the middle? Al Wilson and Co. Yes, our defense gives up yards-yet we manage to hold opponents to 10-13 points per game, and are +20 in turnovers....

                            3. Pittsburgh can concentrate on taking away Denver's running game because you don't have the passing game to keep us honest. Rod Smith is good but well past his prime. Ike Taylor can shut down any receiver in the league(as evidence look at Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison in recent weeks) Putzier and Lelie aren't enough, or perhaps they take away Lelie- either way your receivers aren't enought of a threat, especially with Plummer throwing to them. Not enough? Dream on. Rod Smith is clutch, and makes big plays when needed. Ashley is getting more physical, and Jeb has a way of getting open-especially in a zone type defense. There is a huge soft spot in the middle of your defense, which Denver will take advantage of. And un-like other teams you have faced recently, Denver does not abandon the run. And even then, Jake Plummer has shown he can get it done with his arm and legs.
                            4. Eventually, Steelers will run the ball with success- when Steelers do that, no one can beat them.The same can be said about Denver
                            steelnightmare whats ur response to this post?
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                            • #15
                              Broncos are better

                              There's little argument that the Broncs are the better team

                              We have a more experienced QB

                              A more stout running game

                              A better O and D line

                              The only comparable positions are in our secondary, but I'll give us a slight edge just in the fact that we have two future hall of famers back there right now in Lynch and Bailey

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