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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Originally posted by rcsodak
    I don't know...how can you judge somebody that was just picked up last year, and hasn't played yet?
    I happen to believe BJ will be a great receiver once he mends from his injury. He was as good if not better than R Williams, with TX, imo.
    Romar....I know nothing about him except what I can read about him. He's small, fast and owns receiving records in DII. Nothing to sneeze at. He could easily land on the PS for another year and play lights out next year....or not. Who's to say.
    Adams, I agree. He's fast, and that's about it. Luke is interesting, in that he's still learning the position, having hardly any passes thrown his way in college. He's said to have alot of upside. Why not wait? Plus, maybe he'll be a good backup return man to Williams, should he get hurt. At least he has some experience now.

    I agree with this analysis.

    Luke, Crenshaw, and Johnson have alot of talent, and are not worth bouncing for a year's rental of Rice.

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  • TDforTatum26
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    Originally posted by BroncoRT
    What are you talking about? Clarrett is Shanny's dream project. Shanny is hoping that he is his ticket to legend status. Everybody said he was too slow, a head case etc. Shanny is looking for the challenge and the media hype. This guy has everything he wants. Shanny is going to develop him and run the hell out of him and make him in to a great RB or die trying. Next year or the following, Clarrett will be our horse.

    will you still be saying Clarett will be our horse if and when Tatum has a monster season?

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  • rcsodak
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    Originally posted by Cugel
    No-one will ever miss the likes of Romar Crenshaw, Charlie Adams, Triandos Luke or B.J. Johnson, whichever of these guys doesn't make the squad because of Rice. There are plenty of guys kicking around the NFL with about the same talent level as them.
    I don't know...how can you judge somebody that was just picked up last year, and hasn't played yet?
    I happen to believe BJ will be a great receiver once he mends from his injury. He was as good if not better than R Williams, with TX, imo.
    Romar....I know nothing about him except what I can read about him. He's small, fast and owns receiving records in DII. Nothing to sneeze at. He could easily land on the PS for another year and play lights out next year....or not. Who's to say.
    Adams, I agree. He's fast, and that's about it. Luke is interesting, in that he's still learning the position, having hardly any passes thrown his way in college. He's said to have alot of upside. Why not wait? Plus, maybe he'll be a good backup return man to Williams, should he get hurt. At least he has some experience now.

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  • Cugel
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    Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan
    Surprise Cuts

    Meaning those I expect will make the team, but could see being cut

    Trevor Pryce - Expensive, if he was going to be cut, it would have been after June 2nd anyway. And, must see how his back holds up in training camp, at the end of last season when he tried to come back, he had no power in his legs and couldnt perform leverage.


    Luther Elliss - Hasn't played very much in 3 seasons due to injury. Hasn't played well since 1997. Even if he makes the team, he's limited to 15 snaps a game. For a million dollars, you'd think you could find better production.


    Mario Fatafehi - I thought he was a lock to be cut, but now with moving Davis, it seems he will be kept as the 3rd string emergency NT. Still, a far cry from his starting days at NT, but terrible play will do that to you.


    Marco Coleman - Talked out of retirement by Shanahan for one last season. Played well last year against the run. But the acquisition of Engleberger makes him completely unneccessary.


    Anton Palepoi - He's a bust for a 2nd round pick, but he played ok for us last season. He's young and can play LDE or RDE. However, with all the DEs we've accumulated, I don't see where he fits in.


    Dwayne Carswell - A team player that appears destined for coaching after he retires. His versatility is an asset, and I just can't see us cutting such a team player, though he just about 3rd string at every position.


    Jerry Rice - I dont see how he cant make the team as at least the 5th WR. On the flip side, he's average at this point in his career and takes snaps away from developing youngsters.



    Those are all guys I can see being cut for reasons stated, but I would be surprised if they were.
    Well, now that Dwayne Carswell is a tackle I don't see him getting cut.

    I thought Fatafehi & Coleman were in real trouble. Now that Dorsett Davis is being moved that opens up some room for Fatafehi. But I agree that Coleman is in trouble with the signing of Engleberger, who is simply younger, healthier and better. There's a big pileup now at DL and I would expect both Luther Ellis and Marco Coleman to be cut. Never would have said that a month ago.

    As for Jerry Rice, it's true keeping him means some potential development receiver gets cut. But then again . . . so what?

    What 5th string Bronco WR is going to make a difference in the NFL anyway? It's not as if the Broncos are so loaded at WR that they'd be cutting some future star! Downside risk? Potentially someone they cut makes another squad and becomes an adequate #3 WR. It's not as if potential future mediocre #3 WRs aren't already a dime a dozen.

    No-one will ever miss the likes of Romar Crenshaw, Charlie Adams, Triandos Luke or B.J. Johnson, whichever of these guys doesn't make the squad because of Rice. There are plenty of guys kicking around the NFL with about the same talent level as them.

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  • squints
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    Originally posted by Superchop7
    Clarrett..
    I don't think so, Shanny went out on a linb and picked as a 3rd round pick. Shanny knew then that he was out of football for a while, and it will take time to back to the way he was. Shanny will give him atleast 2 years before the cut.

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  • BroncoRT
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    Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan
    Surprise Cuts

    Meaning those I expect will make the team, but could see being cut

    Trevor Pryce - Expensive, if he was going to be cut, it would have been after June 2nd anyway. And, must see how his back holds up in training camp, at the end of last season when he tried to come back, he had no power in his legs and couldnt perform leverage.


    Luther Elliss - Hasn't played very much in 3 seasons due to injury. Hasn't played well since 1997. Even if he makes the team, he's limited to 15 snaps a game. For a million dollars, you'd think you could find better production.


    Mario Fatafehi - I thought he was a lock to be cut, but now with moving Davis, it seems he will be kept as the 3rd string emergency NT. Still, a far cry from his starting days at NT, but terrible play will do that to you.


    Marco Coleman - Talked out of retirement by Shanahan for one last season. Played well last year against the run. But the acquisition of Engleberger makes him completely unneccessary.


    Anton Palepoi - He's a bust for a 2nd round pick, but he played ok for us last season. He's young and can play LDE or RDE. However, with all the DEs we've accumulated, I don't see where he fits in.


    Dwayne Carswell - A team player that appears destined for coaching after he retires. His versatility is an asset, and I just can't see us cutting such a team player, though he just about 3rd string at every position.


    Jerry Rice - I dont see how he cant make the team as at least the 5th WR. On the flip side, he's average at this point in his career and takes snaps away from developing youngsters.



    Those are all guys I can see being cut for reasons stated, but I would be surprised if they were.
    I would be surprised if Carswell gets cut. I've always like this guy, he is a great blocker and good in the red zone. He is a liability outside the red zone because he can't stretch the field, but hopefully we will keep him. The signing of Alexander does put him at risk.
    Last edited by BroncoRT; 07-23-2005, 05:14 PM.

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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Surprise Cuts

    Meaning those I expect will make the team, but could see being cut

    Trevor Pryce - Expensive, if he was going to be cut, it would have been after June 2nd anyway. And, must see how his back holds up in training camp, at the end of last season when he tried to come back, he had no power in his legs and couldnt perform leverage.


    Luther Elliss - Hasn't played very much in 3 seasons due to injury. Hasn't played well since 1997. Even if he makes the team, he's limited to 15 snaps a game. For a million dollars, you'd think you could find better production.


    Mario Fatafehi - I thought he was a lock to be cut, but now with moving Davis, it seems he will be kept as the 3rd string emergency NT. Still, a far cry from his starting days at NT, but terrible play will do that to you.


    Marco Coleman - Talked out of retirement by Shanahan for one last season. Played well last year against the run. But the acquisition of Engleberger makes him completely unneccessary.


    Anton Palepoi - He's a bust for a 2nd round pick, but he played ok for us last season. He's young and can play LDE or RDE. However, with all the DEs we've accumulated, I don't see where he fits in.


    Dwayne Carswell - A team player that appears destined for coaching after he retires. His versatility is an asset, and I just can't see us cutting such a team player, though he just about 3rd string at every position.


    Jerry Rice - I dont see how he cant make the team as at least the 5th WR. On the flip side, he's average at this point in his career and takes snaps away from developing youngsters.



    Those are all guys I can see being cut for reasons stated, but I would be surprised if they were.

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  • BroncoRT
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    Originally posted by Superchop7
    Clarrett..
    What are you talking about? Clarrett is Shanny's dream project. Shanny is hoping that he is his ticket to legend status. Everybody said he was too slow, a head case etc. Shanny is looking for the challenge and the media hype. This guy has everything he wants. Shanny is going to develop him and run the hell out of him and make him in to a great RB or die trying. Next year or the following, Clarrett will be our horse.

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  • Jared
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    Originally posted by Calif. Bronco
    I can see it now - we cut him, the Chargers sign him, and he sacks Jake late in the final game of the season to clinch the division for the Bolts - UGH!!!!! (go ahead and call me a pessimist)

    I said I could see him getting cut for medical reasons only. If he were physically unable to play, then no other team would sign him.

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  • Dean
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    Surprise to who?? If you list them and they are cut then they are not a surprise to you. You thought that they might be cut. Maybe that would be a surprise to another person.

    The only surprise cuts would be people that you feel have no possibility of being cut.

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  • Peerless
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    Dwayne Carswell. He's trying to make it at a guard, but if it doesn't work I think he's gone.

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  • Superchop7
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    Clarrett..

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  • BroncoRT
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    Originally posted by Perry1977
    Triandos Luke will be the biggest surprise cut.

    Crenshaw makes #5 receiver.

    Last year he looked confused a litlle disoriented on ST's and as WR. He didn't look good. After the trade rumors Dorsett Davis is probably gone.
    Last edited by BroncoRT; 07-23-2005, 07:59 AM.

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  • Perry1977
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    Triandos Luke will be the biggest surprise cut.

    Crenshaw makes #5 receiver.

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  • Calif. Bronco
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    Originally posted by Jared
    Pryce would be the only one on there I would call a surprise. And I could see it happening for medical reasons.

    I can see it now - we cut him, the Chargers sign him, and he sacks Jake late in the final game of the season to clinch the division for the Bolts - UGH!!!!! (go ahead and call me a pessimist)

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