2 Dlinemen in the 1st round??

[OrangePeel]

Right now, we have 2 of our 2005 starters on the dline back from last year, and we have a 10 year veteran in lang whos coming a down year (even though that could be attributed to him being in a very confused browns scheme last year) and 2 decent years in 03 and 04, and looks to be a solid contributor next year, but IMO only as depth on the line.

Now with the 15th and 22nd pick we are in a position to grab a great prospect at both the DT, and DE positions, which would fill the remainig to holes on the line. Warren, who is coming into his prime and could potentially breakout next season if he really wants to show the organization hes worth the money, and brown who wants to be here, took a paycut to be here, and is a good run stopper, both of which are in their late 20's and should have 5 more productive years as long as they dont buck the trend.

With the 15th pick, we could feasibly grab Bunkley, who is the consensus #2 DT prospect, and then take Kiwanuka or Lawson with the 22nd overall pick, both of which are thought of as premier pass rushing prospects in this draft. I would honestly prefer this to any draft that has us taking an offensive player in the first round as I think all the offense really needs is depth on the oline, and a possesion reciever, along with maybe a late round RB that could come in and compete for the starting job like mike bell.

Would any be opposed to a bronco draft such as this?

1a. Brodrick Bunkley, DT
1b. Manny Lawson/Mathias Kiwanuka, DE
2. Jason Avant, WR
4a. Pat Watkins S
4b. Mike Bell, RB
4c. Rashad Butler, OT
5. Devin Hester, KR/WR
6. Drew Olson, QB

[PRBronco]

If that was our draft for this year, I would have what the kids these days are calling a "stiffy" for about a month.

[JvDub95]

I don't think Hester would fall that far, he is a multi threat person. I bet he goes in the 3rd

[OrangePeel]

note, this is only a mockup of how we would address our needs if we were gonna go 2 dlinemen in the first, and the type of player selected at each round.

[silkamilkamonic]

I don't think Hester would fall that far, he is a multi threat person. I bet he goes in the 3rd

He's one dimensional. He's nothing more then a returner. He doesn't have the hands to play wr, or the agility and smarts to play CB.

He was owned in games by average college wr's on a few occasions.

[PsychoChicken]

If we got Bunkley and one of the DEs between Kiwanuka, Lawson, Wimbley, and Hali, this draft would be a major success, and I would promise to quit doubting Shanahan's drafting methods forever.

[silkamilkamonic]

I don't think Lawson will be a good fit in Denver.

With his speed, he will flourish as a rushing LB in the 3-4 system. Stick with more of a natural pass rushing end.

[OrangePeel]

I don't think Lawson will be a good fit in Denver.

With his speed, he will flourish as a rushing LB in the 3-4 system. Stick with more of a natural pass rushing end.

its just that he reminds me to much of jason taylor to really get over him. I think we need more athletic people on the dline, and need to stop counting on blizing LB's and a safety every play to get a pash rush. Lawsons skills at chasing after the ball carrier behind the line of scrimmage cant be overlooked either, he gives alot of effort in getting after the QB or RB when he has shed an OT.

[ReleaseTheBeast7]

Right now, we have 2 of our 2005 starters on the dline back from last year, and we have a 10 year veteran in lang whos coming a down year (even though that could be attributed to him being in a very confused browns scheme last year) and 2 decent years in 03 and 04, and looks to be a solid contributor next year, but IMO only as depth on the line.

Now with the 15th and 22nd pick we are in a position to grab a great prospect at both the DT, and DE positions, which would fill the remainig to holes on the line. Warren, who is coming into his prime and could potentially breakout next season if he really wants to show the organization hes worth the money, and brown who wants to be here, took a paycut to be here, and is a good run stopper, both of which are in their late 20's and should have 5 more productive years as long as they dont buck the trend.

With the 15th pick, we could feasibly grab Bunkley, who is the consensus #2 DT prospect, and then take Kiwanuka or Lawson with the 22nd overall pick, both of which are thought of as premier pass rushing prospects in this draft. I would honestly prefer this to any draft that has us taking an offensive player in the first round as I think all the offense really needs is depth on the oline, and a possesion reciever, along with maybe a late round RB that could come in and compete for the starting job like mike bell.

Would any be opposed to a bronco draft such as this?

1a. Brodrick Bunkley, DT
1b. Manny Lawson/Mathias Kiwanuka, DE
2. Jason Avant, WR
4a. Pat Watkins S
4b. Mike Bell, RB
4c. Rashad Butler, OT
5. Devin Hester, KR/WR
6. Drew Olson, QB

Nah mang... I don't see that happening at all... Shanahan wants a playmaker on the offensive side of the ball, and Avant sure as hell ain't no 2nd rounder. Also, no TE? Probably our biggest need on offense as of now? I'll pass on that mock...

[PsychoChicken]

I don't think Lawson will be a good fit in Denver.

With his speed, he will flourish as a rushing LB in the 3-4 system. Stick with more of a natural pass rushing end.

Does Robert Mathis ring a bell? Proof that a small DE can be successful in the 4-3 with the right role, not just the 3-4.

[silkamilkamonic]

its just that he reminds me to much of jason taylor to really get over him. I think we need more athletic people on the dline, and need to stop counting on blizing LB's and a safety every play to get a pash rush. Lawsons skills at chasing after the ball carrier behind the line of scrimmage cant be overlooked either, he gives alot of effort in getting after the QB or RB when he has shed an OT.

I see what your saying. His lack of bulk scares me a little though. I can see him being a huge impact player when he has space to work with, but the OLine in the NFL are stronger and more experienced, and if they can jam him right away his physical abilities become less of a force.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Right now, we have 2 of our 2005 starters on the dline back from last year, and we have a 10 year veteran in lang whos coming a down year (even though that could be attributed to him being in a very confused browns scheme last year) and 2 decent years in 03 and 04, and looks to be a solid contributor next year, but IMO only as depth on the line.

Now with the 15th and 22nd pick we are in a position to grab a great prospect at both the DT, and DE positions, which would fill the remainig to holes on the line. Warren, who is coming into his prime and could potentially breakout next season if he really wants to show the organization hes worth the money, and brown who wants to be here, took a paycut to be here, and is a good run stopper, both of which are in their late 20's and should have 5 more productive years as long as they dont buck the trend.

With the 15th pick, we could feasibly grab Bunkley, who is the consensus #2 DT prospect, and then take Kiwanuka or Lawson with the 22nd overall pick, both of which are thought of as premier pass rushing prospects in this draft. I would honestly prefer this to any draft that has us taking an offensive player in the first round as I think all the offense really needs is depth on the oline, and a possesion reciever, along with maybe a late round RB that could come in and compete for the starting job like mike bell.

Would any be opposed to a bronco draft such as this?

1a. Brodrick Bunkley, DT
1b. Manny Lawson/Mathias Kiwanuka, DE
2. Jason Avant, WR
4a. Pat Watkins S
4b. Mike Bell, RB
4c. Rashad Butler, OT
5. Devin Hester, KR/WR
6. Drew Olson, QB

Nothing would make me happier than your projected first round. I'd never speak ill of Shanny's drafting again, I'm not kidding.

[silkamilkamonic]

Does Robert Mathis ring a bell? Proof that a small DE can be successful in the 4-3 with the right role, not just the 3-4.

Robert Mathis is one defensive end out of how many in the NFL. There's always the possibiity, but there are alot of talented DE's coming out of the draft this year.

[WABronco]

Does Robert Mathis ring a bell? Proof that a small DE can be successful in the 4-3 with the right role, not just the 3-4.

Yea, and Manny Lawson's already got about 30 pounds on Mathis as is (I think). IIRC, he even plays the strong side (but in obvious passing downs, of course...)

[OrangePeel]

i think all lawson needs to do to be able to stand up to the hutchinson's and jones's of the NFL is to add bulk, especially arm strength. He has an great frame to add weight to at 6-5 3/8, and honestly, i think he is a few ticks faster than his 4.43 40 time after seeing him play against the entire ACC and the NC state line usually dominating the offensive lines of that conference. I really hope he isnt just a workout warrior because i see him as being something special. He just needs to get more weight on, probably 10-20 lbs, so he can get better leverage against blockers.