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    Anyone think it would be a good idea to package our two number one picks in order to move up on the draft to get someone like Michael Huff, considering we need a younger and better SS in our team? Im not convined we can get two great quality first round picks at 15 and 22 otherwise....

  • #2
    Originally posted by Wrobe46
    Anyone think it would be a good idea to package our two number one picks in order to move up on the draft to get someone like Michael Huff, considering we need a younger and better SS in our team? Im not convined we can get two great quality first round picks at 15 and 22 otherwise....
    Welcome to the boards!

    Yea, I would like trading up in the draft, just not for Michael Huff. Maybe Vernon Davis or Ngata, as I see those as more pressing needs.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by cinnamunmun
      Welcome to the boards!

      Yea, I would like trading up in the draft, just not for Michael Huff. Maybe Vernon Davis or Ngata, as I see those as more pressing needs.
      I like your thinking...


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      • #4
        Originally posted by cinnamunmun
        Welcome to the boards!

        Yea, I would like trading up in the draft, just not for Michael Huff. Maybe Vernon Davis or Ngata, as I see those as more pressing needs.

        I second that.
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        • #5
          If we package both of our picks to move up, I would not settle for anything less than a Mario Williams, Vernon Davis, or Reggie (Yea I know, not happening). Just saying that as good as Huff is, I don't think he is worth two first rounders.

          To give up two first round picks, especially one as high as the 15th, you have to get an absolute sure thing, impact player.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BroncsOwnU
            If we package both of our picks to move up, I would not settle for anything less than a Mario Williams, Vernon Davis, or Reggie (Yea I know, not happening). Just saying that as good as Huff is, I don't think he is worth two first rounders.

            To give up two first round picks, especially one as high as the 15th, you have to get an absolute sure thing, impact player.
            Yea, maybe trading 15 and a 2nd to get up to 10 for huff would be cool, but any higher you would like to think that would be for a "bigger name" guy, besides as much as I like Micheal Huff, I been thinking lately that jimmy williams (if he would move) would make a better safety than Huff, and you could possibly get him at 15.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wrobe46
              Anyone think it would be a good idea to package our two number one picks in order to move up on the draft to get someone like Michael Huff, considering we need a younger and better SS in our team? Im not convined we can get two great quality first round picks at 15 and 22 otherwise....


              welcome to the boards!




              whether it's a good idea or not, we won't do it. . . the FO seems pretty happy with the depth we have at safety right now, and they just re-signed sam brandon this off-season. . . i can't see us trading up for anyone other than vernon davis, and that probably won't happen either. . .

              in any case, huff in all likelihood is gonna play corner in the NFL. . .
              although it isn't neccesarily what i personally want, expect us to go heavy on offense in this draft, every sign points that way. . .
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              • #8
                Originally posted by dogfish
                welcome to the boards!




                whether it's a good idea or not, we won't do it. . . the FO seems pretty happy with the depth we have at safety right now, and they just re-signed sam brandon this off-season. . . i can't see us trading up for anyone other than vernon davis, and that probably won't happen either. . .

                in any case, huff in all likelihood is gonna play corner in the NFL. . .
                although it isn't neccesarily what i personally want, expect us to go heavy on offense in this draft, every sign points that way. . .
                I'm actually beginning to want that (heavy offensive draft). I believe our defense, while short a consistent pass rush threat, is still good enough to get us where we want to go. I've been whining about how Seattle overmatches Denver in several areas, but it's really about the unit-to-unit matchups. For example, if Denver's LB's could stay off the blocks, I believe that Seattle (an elite team) would have a very difficult time establishing the run. Alexander can't break a tackle to save his life, which he'd have to do to get outside or through the holes against our speedy 'backers. Hopefully we'll find a serious option for a pass rush specialist, so we won't get butchered when we do stop the run...

                As you well know, I really, really think that Denver can't afford to pass on a receiver this year. From an outsider's perspective, I just can't see it as a possibility. I've gone over it many times, but it's essentially because of my uneasiness with Ash going into FA and Rod most likely retiring after next season.

                And, I think Dayne will get the job done...he'll be just fine. But, why pass up on such a tremendous value at 22 if LenDale White or DeAngelo Williams is there (or Maroney)?

                I'd type more, but I have to go to beddy-by...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by WABronco
                  I'm actually beginning to want that (heavy offensive draft). I believe our defense, while short a consistent pass rush threat, is still good enough to get us where we want to go. I've been whining about how Seattle overmatches Denver in several areas, but it's really about the unit-to-unit matchups. For example, if Denver's LB's could stay off the blocks, I believe that Seattle (an elite team) would have a very difficult time establishing the run. Alexander can't break a tackle to save his life, which he'd have to do to get outside or through the holes against our speedy 'backers. Hopefully we'll find a serious option for a pass rush specialist, so we won't get butchered when we do stop the run...

                  As you well know, I really, really think that Denver can't afford to pass on a receiver this year. From an outsider's perspective, I just can't see it as a possibility. I've gone over it many times, but it's essentially because of my uneasiness with Ash going into FA and Rod most likely retiring after next season.

                  And, I think Dayne will get the job done...he'll be just fine. But, why pass up on such a tremendous value at 22 if LenDale White or DeAngelo Williams is there (or Maroney)?

                  I'd type more, but I have to go to beddy-by...

                  Ohhhh...I got it now. Shanny says "F the draft, I'm going to sign Richard Seymour in '08!!!!" That'd be cool...


                  honestly, if if we drafted a top DE prospect, i would be totally fine going heavy on the O. . . i'd rather take deangelo than lendale, and honestly i just see some of the mid-round WR prospects as better values than holmes or jackson-- i'd love to see us trade down from #22 to #40-45 and pick klopfenstein. . . even if we take holmes/jackson and get lawson, kiwi or wimbley at #22 (not hali), i would be happy with that. . . honestly i don't think it'll happen, but just for the sake of discussion. . .
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                  • #10
                    I think the only reason to trade up would be to get Davis or Mario. Anything other than that, i dont think would be reasonable. Sure we could bulk up our SS spot, but it is not more of a need than a young DE. We keep stockpiling these DLmen from cleveland, because they are getting older and need rotated more often.



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                    • #11
                      I would almost like to see us trade our #22 pick to, I believe the Jets, that have the #29 and #35. We could still take Bunkley with the #15...............Hali could still be around with the #29.....................Tapp with #35................and with our own 2nd round pick, Claude Wroten. Then, trade two of our #4's for a #3. Draft Dominique Bryd or Klopfenstein, and hopefully with our late comp pick in the 4th round, we could still get Mike Bell or a decent Runningback that fits our system like we've done in the past with TD, Gary and Anderson. ...................What do you think of this crazy idea.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by HolyDiver
                        I would almost like to see us trade our #22 pick to, I believe the Jets, that have the #29 and #35. We could still take Bunkley with the #15...............Hali could still be around with the #29.....................Tapp with #35................and with our own 2nd round pick, Claude Wroten. Then, trade two of our #4's for a #3. Draft Dominique Bryd or Klopfenstein, and hopefully with our late comp pick in the 4th round, we could still get Mike Bell or a decent Runningback that fits our system like we've done in the past with TD, Gary and Anderson. ...................What do you think of this crazy idea.
                        Heh.

                        If we could pull it off so that the Jets were really willing to give up 29 and 35, we should certainly do it. Unfortunately, the Jets aren't the Redskins. They wouldn't be crazy enough to trade away both of those picks for 22.

                        More realistic would be moving back to number 32 and 64 with Pittsburgh or 31 and 63 with Seattle.

                        Another possibility would be to trade 61 and 22 for 29 and 35 with the Jets.

                        The Jets would have to have a reason to move up for this to work out, but this type of thing is much more realistic than your scenario. Giving up a late first and early second for a mid/late first rounder just makes no sense. And according to the draft value chart, it'd be a major steal for us.
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                        • #13
                          Trading one of firsts, for additional picks in the 2nd or 3rd would be wise. Some of those projected mid first rd are reaches, and there is a lot of value projected in the 2nd and 3rd rd. Below is a list of players projected in the 2nd and 3rd that I think would help the Broncos (some of these will probably slip into the 1st)

                          Joseph Addai - RB
                          Maurice Drew - RB
                          Brian Calhourn - RB
                          Brodie Croyle- QB
                          Cedric Griffin - S
                          Babaltunde Oshimowo - DT
                          Johathen Lewis - DT
                          John McCargo
                          Greg Eslinger - C
                          Mark Anderson - DE
                          Daryl Tapp - DE
                          Stanley McClover - DE
                          Daryn Colledge - OT
                          Joe Kopfenstein - TE
                          Dominique Byrd - TE
                          Maurice Stovall - WR

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BroncsOwnU
                            If we package both of our picks to move up, I would not settle for anything less than a Mario Williams, Vernon Davis, or Reggie (Yea I know, not happening). Just saying that as good as Huff is, I don't think he is worth two first rounders.

                            To give up two first round picks, especially one as high as the 15th, you have to get an absolute sure thing, impact player.
                            Reggie Bush would be impossible to nab unless the Broncos packaged both first rounders this year and another one in 2007. Super Mario could be had for Denvers first three pciks. Don't see either happening.

                            Now Vernon Davis would be interesting. While it'd take both first rounders to get him (possibly more, as I'd say you would have to trade right ahead of Oakland. The 49ers could really use a future playmaker like Davis), he could certainly make the Broncos Offense sick. As a Chiefs fan, I do not want this to happen.

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                            • #15
                              Our #15 and #22 in theory equal #4,


                              if the jets do trade they would have picks #15,#22,#29 and#35 that must look sweet to them with all their holes to fill


                              at number #4 we get one of super mario, d'brickshaw ferguson or vernon davies. depending on who the saints take at #2


                              we havn't had a top 10 pick for 15 years(i think that is right), who wouldn't want one of those three pulling on a bronco jersey

                              mario=instant pass rush,
                              davies would be a beast in our system,
                              da brick we are a running team and a dominant tackle, while it fills no needs they say draft for talent not need


                              or we take a WR at 15 who will bust and a man with boobs at #22! TRADE UP SHANNY
                              Last edited by nickrobinson; 04-07-2006, 07:55 AM.

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