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  • Why aren't we in the Playoffs with a Jets Loss?

    Everyone is saying we are in no matter what the outcome of our game is if the Chiefs lose. Yes I agree, but we are guaranteed in the Playoffs if the Jets lose as well no matter the outcome of our game. We have the tie breaker over the Jets, They got a 6-5 AFC record we got 8-4. If both Jets lose and we lose we go over them.

    We have the tie breaker on everyone in the AFC except the Chiefs. (Who have a better divison record) We got the better AFC record than anyone who is not a division leader. So what I see is We got 2 chances to get into the playoffs before we even kickoff. Jets loss or a KC loss will automatically put us in.

    on the other hand I justr read who the Jets play, forget I said anything about them losing.


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    Read this before you spount that were not gonna make it.

    Were in as long as we win today.

    http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=80962

    so were in it even if the Jets win.
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    • #3
      Oh I know if we win we're in. The thing Iam asking is how come on ESPN they say only if the CHIEFS lose are we guaranteed in no matter the outcome of our game. They said we will know the Chiefs results before kickoff.

      I am saying if the Jets lose we are in no matter what. Am I wrong? We have the tie breaker on the Jets if they lose we go they don't.
      Last edited by Bokyong; 12-31-2006, 03:46 AM.


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      • #4
        If the Chiefs win and we lose, we're out. no matter of the outcome of the jets game.
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        • #5
          First tie-break amongst Divisional sides is the divisinal record, then the Conference record, so the Chiefs would eliminate us there.
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          • #6
            you guys dont seem to understand his question.
            If the chiefs win, we lose, and the jets lose, wouldn't we still be in the playoffs? there are 2 wild card spots and the chiefs would obviously have one. We would haev the other though because we have the tie breaker over everyone else.

            This is a good question and one that I do not know the answer to.

            For example according to http://www.superbowl.com/playoffs/features/seeding/afc if we lose, the jets lose, kc wins and cinci wins, then cinci and the jets would have the 2 wild card spots. This makes absolutely no sense. We have the tie breaker over both of them, which is conference record. Ours is better than both of theirs.
            Last edited by Prodigal19; 12-31-2006, 06:25 AM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Prodigal19
              you guys dont seem to understand his question.
              If the chiefs win, we lose, and the jets lose, wouldn't we still be in the playoffs? there are 2 wild card spots and the chiefs would obviously have one. We would haev the other though because we have the tie breaker over everyone else.

              This is a good question and one that I do not know the answer to.
              My understanding is this:

              The order of tie breaks is divisional rivals, then conference. The team eliminated at the divisional stage does not enter the equation at the conference stage.

              The fact that we have the tie-break on everyone else is pretty much immaterial unless we finish with a better record the the Chiefs

              So it's pretty much boom or bust, do or die if the Chiefs win later............win and go on or lose and pack it up for another year
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              • #8
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Den21-Bal19
                  My understanding is this:

                  The order of tie breaks is divisional rivals, then conference. The team eliminated at the divisional stage does not enter the equation at the conference stage.

                  The fact that we have the tie-break on everyone else is pretty much immaterial unless we finish with a better record the the Chiefs

                  So it's pretty much boom or bust, do or die if the Chiefs win later............win and go on or lose and pack it up for another year
                  thats pretty dumb. So basically its impossibly for 3 teams from one division to make it to the playoffs? That is incredibly dumb actually. What if the 3 best teams in the nfl all happen to be in the same division...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Den21-Bal19
                    My understanding is this:

                    The order of tie breaks is divisional rivals, then conference. The team eliminated at the divisional stage does not enter the equation at the conference stage.

                    The fact that we have the tie-break on everyone else is pretty much immaterial unless we finish with a better record the the Chiefs

                    So it's pretty much boom or bust, do or die if the Chiefs win later............win and go on or lose and pack it up for another year

                    Good explanation! Easy way to sum it up, the Chargers swept the Broncos and the Chiefs beat the Charger and Broncos once. Chief have a better division record than the Broncos. And every team swept the Raiders. :clap:

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Prodigal19
                      thats pretty dumb. So basically its impossibly for 3 teams from one division to make it to the playoffs? That is incredibly dumb actually. What if the 3 best teams in the nfl all happen to be in the same division...
                      Unless that crazy strength of schedule tie breaker goes GBs way today (virtually impossible), 3 teams from the same division WILL make the playoffs this year, Eagles, Cowboys and Giants. It's only if you have a multiple team tiebreaker that you eliminate within the divisions first.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Prodigal19
                        thats pretty dumb. So basically its impossibly for 3 teams from one division to make it to the playoffs? That is incredibly dumb actually. What if the 3 best teams in the nfl all happen to be in the same division...
                        no, it's entirely possible for 3 teams from the same division to make it. for example, if the broncos and chiefs were both 10-6 and the next closest team was 9-7, then the broncos and chiefs would be the 2 wildcards. so it's possible and it has happened before i believe.


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                        • #13
                          From what I just read. Yeah if the Jets lose we are also in.
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                          • #14
                            No, the Jets game has no influence on whether we make the playoffs or not. If we win, we're the 5th seed no matter what. If we lose, the only way we get in, is if the Chiefs lost earlier in the evening, if they win, we'll be tied with at least the Chiefs and the Jets and we'll be eliminated first due to divisional record.

                            Only influence the Jets game has on us, is in case the Chiefs and us both lose, a Jets loss would mean we're still the 5th seed, a win and we're 6th and probably off to Indy for another major asswooping.

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                            • #15
                              This chart should help.There is a scenario where Denver can lose today and still make it in.

                              http://www.superbowl.com/playoffs/features/seeding/afc

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