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    okay, i honestly don't think we can predict the final 53-man roster with any great deal of accuracy (i know people always think they can, but then WHAM, here comes the surprise cut!), but it's fun to speculate about, anyways. . . . here's my attempt to predict what i think the final roster may look like-- it's just for fun, so please, nobody kill me (this means YOU, cugel! ). . .



    QB:
    jake plummer
    jay cutler
    bradlee van pelt

    HB:
    ron dayne
    tatum bell
    cedric cobbs

    FB:
    kyle johnson
    cecil sapp

    WR:
    rod smith
    javon walker
    darius watts
    brandon marshall
    todd devoe
    domenick hixon

    TE:
    stephen alexander
    tony scheffler
    nate jackson
    mike leach

    OT:
    matt lepsis
    george foster
    cornell green

    OG:
    ben hamilton
    cooper carlisle
    p. j. alexander

    C:
    tom nalen
    greg eslinger

    DT:
    gerard warren
    mike myers
    demetrin veal

    DE:
    courtney brown
    ebenezer ekuban
    kenard lang
    elvis dumervil
    john engelberger
    corey jackson

    OLB:
    d. j. williams
    ian gold
    patrick chukwurah

    MLB:
    al wilson
    nate webster
    keith burns

    CB:
    champ bailey
    darrent williams
    domonique foxworth
    karl paymah
    willie middlebrooks

    S:
    john lynch
    nick ferguson
    sam brandon
    curome cox

    K/P:
    jason elam
    todd sauerbrun
    paul ernster



    looking at a few areas of uncertainty. . . lets start from the top! clearly nothing is guaranteed, but i rather expect us to keep 3 qbs this year, both because of cutler's inexperience, and because the coaching staff seems to like BVP, and may want to keep him around as a potential long-term backup if he can continue to develop his passing skills. . . . with sapp's ability to play both FB and HB, and no other strong candidates around, i see the RB group as pretty much set, unless a trade happens that brings another RB who replaces cobbs. . . .

    WR is one of the most intriguing battles this year, and since it's been discussed in great detail elsewhere i'll keep it brief. . . i expect lelie to be traded, even if he does report for a short period-- if he returns, obviosly he takes a spot. . . . it's possible terrell could make the roster, but i see watts beating him based on age and upside, and devoe and hixon based on special teams play, which we seem to be making a bigger committment to than in the past. . . i've got hixon on the roster under the assumption he can win the starting return specialist job-- if he doesn't, most likely terrell makes the roster and we take our chances with hixon clearing waivers and going on the practice squad. . . if hixon (who i believe also played safety in college) can tackle, it's possible that devoe gets cut and we go with terrell for a little more experience at the position-- i also think walker's health could affect this battle. . .

    those who want leach cut should keep dreaming i say-- no coach wants to lose a game on a blown snap, so it's all good to say let some one else learn to do it, but i'll betcha he makes the team! if the coaching staff thinks brandon marshall can play TE, it's possible nate jackson doesn't make the team, but that would leave us awfully short on experience at the position. . . . the fact that we drafted two interior OL doesn't bode particularly well for chris myers in my book, but we'll see. . . i remember hearing good things about p.j. alexander before he got hurt last year, so i'm betting on him to beat out myers and chris kuper (who would then go to the practice squad)-- i also think eslinger's polish will help win him a spot, but in any case it's these 4 battling for 2 backup spots on the interior OL. . . . i think cornell green beats out carswell, unless possibly we only keep 3 TEs and then keep carswell as a backup at TE and OT. . . .

    and i know, everybody's probably foaming at the mouth because i only have 3 DTs on this roster. . . . . i don't remember for sure, but did we even dress pope for every game last year? we've been told that dumervil may play inside some of the time (they appear to be serious about this), and with several potential nickel pass rushers and no real pass rush threat inside, i can see a combination of lang/engelberger/jackson playing DE on passing downs with dumervil and warren inside. . . . 6 DEs may be one more than we actually keep, but if dumervil plays some DT that gives us 9 DLs total. . . . it's certainly possible that we do keep a 4th DT instead of, say, middlebrooks or nate jackson, but it's not like we have any star candidates right now for that spot-- i can see us starting the season with only 3 and elvis, we can always call one up from the PS if there's an injury. . . . i'm not sure about their eligibility, but i can see amon gordon or patrice mumbo-jumbo in that role. . . . otherwise, jackson or engelgerger might get cut to make room. . . .

    it's possible we keep louis green for special teams, but i see burnsie, devoe and middlebrooks as more valuable contributors there, and chukwurah and webster are probably better backups at LB, especially given their versatility. . . . if we want a 7th LB this year, maybe he makes it instead of middlebrooks or devoe. . . .

    clearly, our top 4 corners are set, and if we keep a 5th for depth and specail teams, i see willie getting the spot over roc alexander, who i think is done for. . . it's possible that tyler everitt beats out curome cox, but i'll give cox the nod based on experience and some things the coaching staff said about him last year. . .

    if ernster can't beat knorr then he flat sucks! i'll put my money on him because he can't be much worse, but it's no leap to imagine him being better-- still, i wouldn't be surprised if we cut him after sauerbrun gets back (if beefcake can handle kicking off), and use that spot to add a 4th DT or other position of need. . . .

    alright, there it is. . . . i know there are more questions than answers, but that's just how it is going into camp-- that's probably true for the coaching staff as well as us lowly posters! discussion is very welcome, but if you're gonna be TOO critical of my projections at any one spot, let's see your predictions for the full 53-man roster first!


    EDIT: i tried to put the players at each position loosely in the order i think the depth chart will reflect-- at some point i'm going to post more detailed predictions for a final depth chart based on this roster. . . . guess i'd better do it soon before they start cutting guys i have projected to the team!

    Last edited by dogfish; 07-26-2006, 07:55 PM.
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    rest in peace, darrent williams and damien nash-- you will be missed!!

  • #2
    Great post Dog!!

    I pretty much agree with that roster except for a couple of spots. I think David Terrell will probably make the cut and beat out one of the un-seasoned receivers. We need all the veteran leadership in that department that we can get but if Watts, Devoe or Marshall outplay him and prove they belong here than that would be a true lineup.

    I also think they'll keep Alexander and extend their depth at corner because it
    seems like we're injury-prone at that position and Alexander isn't a terrible corner IMO.

    Otherwise I like how you broke it down and that roster seems likely and reasonable although like you stated, the obvious doesn't always present itself on cut day. Unfortunately my cp's have run dry. This is definitely worthy though so I'll get you later.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Reidman
      Great post Dog!!

      I pretty much agree with that roster except for a couple of spots. I think David Terrell will probably make the cut and beat out one of the un-seasoned receivers. We need all the veteran leadership in that department that we can get but if Watts, Devoe or Marshall outplay him and prove they belong here than that would be a true lineup.

      I also think they'll keep Alexander and extend their depth at corner because it
      seems like we're injury-prone at that position and Alexander isn't a terrible corner IMO.

      Otherwise I like how you broke it down and that roster seems likely and reasonable although like you stated, the obvious doesn't always present itself on cut day. Unfortunately my cp's have run dry. This is definitely worthy though so I'll get you later.

      reid, i totally agree that terrell may beat one of the young guys based on experience-- my projection is assuming that walker is 100% healthy, and even then they may want another seasoned receiver. . . . i'm also banking on watts' development, as he's now in his third year, and actually has more experience with our system than terrell does, and bigger upside. . . . i do think WR may be the fiercest battle of any position this year, and however it works out it's nice to finally feel like we have some options at the position. . . .

      we'll see about alexander, but i'm betting he doesn't make the team this year. . .


      and BTW, i love the william wallace avi!! i was just looking for a pic of a certain scene last week in hopes of putting it in my sig-- couldn't find the one i wanted though. . . . one of my all-time favorite flicks!

      Officially Objectified by the GPA

      rest in peace, darrent williams and damien nash-- you will be missed!!

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      • #4
        heres what i think

        QB:
        jake plummer
        jay cutler

        RB:
        ron dayne
        tatum bell
        cedric cobbs

        FB:
        kyle johnson
        cecil sapp

        WR:
        rod smith
        javon walker
        todd devoe
        brandon marshall
        domenik hixon
        darius watts

        TE:
        stephen alexander
        tony scheffler
        mike leach

        OT:
        matt lepsis
        george foster
        cornell green

        OG:
        ben hamilton
        cooper carlisle
        chris kuper

        C:
        tom nalen
        greg eslinger

        DT:
        gerard warren
        mike myers
        demetrin veal

        DE:
        courtney brown
        ebenezer ekuban
        kenard lang
        elvis dumervil
        john engelberger
        corey jackson

        LB:
        al wilson
        d.j. williams
        ian gold
        nate webster
        louis green
        patrick chukwurah
        keith burns

        CB:
        champ bailey
        darrent williams
        domonique foxworth
        karl paymah
        willie middlebrooks
        jeff shoate

        S:
        john lynch
        nick ferguson
        sam brandon
        curome cox
        hamza abdullah

        K/P:
        jason elam
        todd sauerbrun


        pratice squad:
        antwaun rogers
        cameron vaughn
        mike bell
        tyler everett
        bradlee van pelt
        3 orthers from other teams cut players

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        • #5
          I think:

          QB:
          Plummer
          Cutler

          HB:
          Ron Dayne
          Tatum Bell
          Cecil Sapp

          FB:
          Kyle Johnson
          Rashon Powers-Neal

          TE:
          Stephen Alexander
          Tony Scheffler
          Nate Jackson
          Mike Leach

          WR:
          Rod Smith
          Javon Walker
          (Ashley Lelie)
          David Terrell
          Brandon Marshall
          Darius Watts

          LT:
          Matt Lepsis
          Cornell Green

          LG:
          Ben Hamilton
          Taylor Whitley

          C:
          Tom Nalen
          Greg Eslinger

          RG:
          Chris Myers
          Dwayne Carswell

          RT:
          Cooper Carlisle
          George Foster

          DT:
          Gerard warren
          Mike myers
          Demetrin Veal
          Elvis Dumervil

          DE:
          Courtney Brown
          Ebenezer Ekuban
          John Engelberger
          Kenard Lang
          Corey Jackson

          OLB:
          Ian Gold
          DJ Williams
          Nate Webster
          Patrick Chuckwurah

          MLB:
          Al Wilson
          Keith Burns

          CB:
          Champ Bailey
          Darrent Williams
          Domonique Foxworth
          Roc Alexander
          Willie Middlebrooks
          Karl Paymath

          S:
          John Lynch
          Nick Ferguson
          Sam Brandon

          P:
          Jason Elam
          Todd Sauerbrun

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          • #6
            This is just my guess at the moment. I'll provide some explination as well...

            -QB-
            Jake Plummer
            Bradlee Van Pelt
            Jay Cutler

            -RB-
            Ron Dayne
            Tatum Bell
            Cedric Cobbs

            -FB-
            Kyle Johnson
            Cecil Sapp

            -WR-
            Rod Smith
            Javon Walker
            Darius Watts
            David Terrell
            Brandon Marshall
            Domenik Hixon

            -TE-
            Stephen Alexander
            Tony Scheffler
            Mike Leach

            -T-
            Matt Lepsis
            George Foster
            Cornell Green

            -G-
            Cooper Carlisle
            Ben Hamilton
            Dwayne Carswell
            PJ Alexander

            -C-
            Tom Nalen
            Greg Eslinger

            -DE-
            Courtney Brown
            Kenard Lang
            Ebenezer Ekuban
            Corey Jackson
            John Engelberger

            -DT-
            Gerard Warren
            Michael Myers
            Elvis Dumervil
            Demetrin Veal

            -LB-
            Al Wilson
            Ian Gold
            DJ Williams
            Keith Burns
            Nate Webster
            Patrick Chukwurah

            -CB-
            Champ Bailey
            Darrent Williams
            Domonique Foxworth
            Karl Paymah

            -S-
            John Lynch
            Nick Ferguson
            Sam Brandon
            Curome Cox
            Hamza Abdullah

            -P/K-
            Jason Elam
            Todd Sauerbrun
            Paul Ernster

            -----------------------
            -Practice Squad-
            RB Mike Bell
            S Tyler Everett
            OL Chris Kuper
            OL Chris Myers
            T Erik Pears
            CB Jeff Shoate

            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            QB: Van Pelt is kept on the roster because he knows the system better than Cutler at this point, and it appears as though is accuracy has improved. (This all based on pre-camp information)

            WR: Even though Devoe & Adams are the two receivers that play on special teams, I think Terrell will beat them out as a more important reciever, and possibly could play on special teams if needed. Hixon will be kept around because of his threat as a returner as they don't want Darrent to get injured in that role.

            TE: I say Jackson is cut because he's injury-prone and hasn't really showed much, and that warrents the "axe" as Carswell can play both TE and on the line. Leach can also fill in at TE if needed.

            OL: Alexander, Carswell & Eslinger can play different positions on the line and Kuper would likely make it to the PS. Green is an expierenced tackle and should beat out the rest for the back-up spot.

            DL: Brown & Ekuban are the only two versatile DE's that can rush the pass and stop the run, even though Brown is more of a run stopper, he can do both. Dumervil will likely end up playing inside more than outside but can play both obviously. With the new nickel pass rush rotation, Engelberger & Lang are pure pass-rushers and Jackson has potential to be that serious pass-rusher Denver needs.

            DB: With Cox being able to play both safety and corner, his versatile and valuable, and has proved his worth last season. Alexander doesn't get much playing time anymore, even when Darrent & Champ were injured, so why would he end up on the final roster? Abdullah is my suprise pick to make the roster because clearly Browner has attitude problems.

            ST: With Sauerbrun being suspended for the first four weeks/games, Ernster should end up taking his spot as he's got to be better than Knorr, or else Denver is in big trouble in that department come the start of the season.

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            • #7
              In stead of Cobbs, I think mike bell will make the team.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by CB Bronco Fan
                In stead of Cobbs, I think mike bell will make the team.
                both have shot. wouldn't be surprized if both make it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CB Bronco Fan
                  In stead of Cobbs, I think mike bell will make the team.
                  Mike Bell will be on the PS
                  President Cool

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                  • #10
                    QB:
                    jake plummer
                    jay cutler
                    bradlee van pelt

                    RB:
                    ron dayne
                    tatum bell
                    cedric cobbs

                    FB:
                    kyle johnson
                    Rashon-Powers Neal

                    WR:
                    rod smith
                    javon walker
                    ashley lelie or todd devoe
                    brandon marshall
                    domenik hixon
                    darius watts

                    TE:
                    stephen alexander
                    tony scheffler
                    mike leach
                    *nate jackson (if devoe and lelie can't make the roster)*

                    OT:
                    matt lepsis
                    george foster
                    cornell green

                    OG:
                    ben hamilton
                    cooper carlisle
                    chris kuper

                    C:
                    tom nalen
                    greg eslinger

                    DT:
                    gerard warren
                    mike myers
                    demetrin veal

                    DE:
                    courtney brown
                    ebenezer ekuban
                    kenard lang
                    elvis dumervil (will play DT as well)
                    john engelberger
                    corey jackson

                    LB:
                    al wilson
                    d.j. williams
                    ian gold
                    nate webster
                    louis green
                    patrick chukwurah
                    keith burns

                    CB:
                    champ bailey
                    darrent williams
                    domonique foxworth
                    karl paymah
                    willie middlebrooks


                    S:
                    john lynch
                    nick ferguson
                    sam brandon
                    curome cox
                    tyler everett ( I believe he will beat out recovering Jeff Shoate)


                    K/P:
                    jason elam
                    todd sauerbrun (4 week suspension?)
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                    • #11
                      My present opinion of the final roster is pretty close to what Dogfish proposed. The exceptions are David Terrell as a #3 or #4 receiver, only two QBs, and probably not Eslinger on the O-line. Having said that I think that by the weekend there will need to be revised.

                      I think that a trade for Lelei will occur and whoever we get will most likely take one of those roster spots. Along with that every year someone unexpectedly shines and some high prospect takes a dive. That would, obviously, result in a complete rethinking and reshuffling of who will be kept.

                      Your list and reasoning with only minor exception looks pretty good for the moment IMHO.

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