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  • jpc925
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    Originally posted by MindField
    You can't Draft 'em all....there will be certain positons that go un-addressed, there always is.

    RB is also a weak positon in this Draft...after Peterson and Lynch in the firsat and Irons in the second, there is a real dropoff after that.

    That is why I addressed the RB position by suggesting signing Chris Brown to a two year deal...
    I agree with this. Irons and Peterson have injury issues. Lynch will be gone by #21 and I think we have bigger needs to address (DE, OL).

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  • MindField
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    Well

    Originally posted by ReleaseTheBeast7
    Ahhhhhhhh no RB early, you fail.
    You can't Draft 'em all....there will be certain positons that go un-addressed, there always is.

    RB is also a weak positon in this Draft...after Peterson and Lynch in the firsat and Irons in the second, there is a real dropoff after that.

    That is why I addressed the RB position by suggesting signing Chris Brown to a two year deal...

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  • str8jacket
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    Originally posted by Pipes7
    I think that we can both agree to disagree in saying that Tater is a loss/not a loss.
    I believe losing your leading rusher/1000 yard back is a loss.

    Now, if Denver upgrades the position then it neglects that loss...replacing Tatum with Mike Bell or Chris Brown is NOT an upgrade. Tatum is better than both of them. My own personal favorites to replace Tatum would be Domanick Williams or Michael Turner, which I see as much more likely than ending up with either of the two top-rated college backs. (Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch)
    Brown has proven he can be a good back in this league with a mediocre team

    Travis Henry and Lendale White being there is all the more reason to leave the Titans for him

    Personally I would love seeing Brown in Denver, he makes one cut and just runs downhill normally

    And of course above Brown I would take Turner, my ideal situation personally would be having Tatum as a 3rd down back

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  • ReleaseTheBeast7
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    Ahhhhhhhh no RB early, you fail.

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  • LoyalSoldier
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    Originally posted by MindField
    ?

    Jake Plummer, George Foster and a third to move up in the third and add a fourth?

    Jake is probably worth the fourth by himself, making Foster essentially worth a move up of fifteen spots in the third round.

    I guess it would come down to if the Texans would have any value for George Foster and Jake Plummer....but as far as the value goes, I think it's pretty realistic.

    Oh thought you were talking about the first round. For that matter then that is a horrible trade for us. Though I think that we would be better off getting a DT in the first round.
    Last edited by LoyalSoldier; 01-07-2007, 01:48 PM.

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  • MindField
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    Yeah

    Originally posted by 22cannon
    I would Love to see Weddle here! Kinda small, but can play CB too.

    I honestly think when teams see tape of him he will move up the the 2nd round easily.

    I agree...his secret is out and is probably moving up..

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  • 22cannon
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    I would Love to see Weddle here! Kinda small, but can play CB too.

    I honestly think when teams see tape of him he will move up the the 2nd round easily.

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  • MindField
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    Originally posted by LoyalSoldier
    I doubt the Texans would give up that pick for just those players and a 3rd rounder especially since you say we would get a 4th rounder back. That would be a horrible trade on the Texan's part. We would have to give up a first rounder to even have a shot at that spot.
    ?

    Jake Plummer, George Foster and a third to move up in the third and add a fourth?

    Jake is probably worth the fourth by himself, making Foster essentially worth a move up of fifteen spots in the third round.

    I guess it would come down to if the Texans would have any value for George Foster and Jake Plummer....but as far as the value goes, I think it's pretty realistic.

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  • MindField
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    See

    Originally posted by Pipes7
    I think that we can both agree to disagree in saying that Tater is a loss/not a loss.
    I believe losing your leading rusher/1000 yard back is a loss.

    Now, if Denver upgrades the position then it neglects that loss...replacing Tatum with Mike Bell or Chris Brown is NOT an upgrade. Tatum is better than both of them. My own personal favorites to replace Tatum would be Domanick Williams or Michael Turner, which I see as much more likely than ending up with either of the two top-rated college backs. (Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch)

    I disagree, I think Chris Brown is a much better back than Tatum Bell, which is why he has had more success in the NFL to date.

    Brown was in Jeff Fisher's doghouse this season, so he didn't play that much...but so much the better for the Broncos. That makes him more healthy and cheaper.

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  • LoyalSoldier
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    I doubt the Texans would give up that pick for just those players and a 3rd rounder especially since you say we would get a 4th rounder back. That would be a horrible trade on the Texan's part. We would have to give up a first rounder to even have a shot at that spot.
    Last edited by LoyalSoldier; 01-06-2007, 08:53 PM.

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  • pipes
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    Originally posted by MindField
    Well, to me, you have to weigh that against what you are losing...let's face it, that's not a whole lot with Tater, anyway...

    Mike Bell will be a much improved back next year, and he was already pretty good down the stretch.

    I also believe a Fred Taylor or a Chris Brown (particularly Brown, who I have watched for years from his Colorado days) could be revitalized in Denver for one year....basically, we would just be looking to get through one year. 2008 is a new Draft and a new season, so either of these players could allow the Broncos to get by for a year, especially when combined with an improved Mike Bell, and Cecil Sapp may figure in as well.

    But to me, Tater is no loss...

    I think that we can both agree to disagree in saying that Tater is a loss/not a loss.
    I believe losing your leading rusher/1000 yard back is a loss.

    Now, if Denver upgrades the position then it neglects that loss...replacing Tatum with Mike Bell or Chris Brown is NOT an upgrade. Tatum is better than both of them. My own personal favorites to replace Tatum would be Domanick Williams or Michael Turner, which I see as much more likely than ending up with either of the two top-rated college backs. (Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch)

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  • MindField
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    Yeah

    Originally posted by WABronco
    Yea but one can argue that he's not much of a receiver. He's extremely small and thin--if he's bumped once he's out of the play. He's not even in the "Steve Smith" size class.

    Not a pick I would make, but it's not my mock...

    A fair comment, he is awfully small...

    Arizona's Syndric Steptoe is another kick returner I like from Arizona.

    Maybe Domenik Hixon is the answer, but I don't think you can count on it, and I am sure more return prospects will emerge as the Draft goes along.

    I like Marshall, though. We'll see how he does in the workouts leading up to the Draft.

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  • WABronco
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    Originally posted by MindField
    I don't know about Morton, but I think Marshall will be in the NFL fr a few years. He had 202 yards receiving in the Bowl game, so he is not just a kick returner.
    Yea but one can argue that he's not much of a receiver. He's extremely small and thin--if he's bumped once he's out of the play. He's not even in the "Steve Smith" size class.

    Not a pick I would make, but it's not my mock...

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  • MindField
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    Well

    Originally posted by Pipes7
    You say this, but then have Denver trade away their starting rb.

    So who do you think will be the starter?

    I sincerely hope you don't say Mike Bell and you do say any of the following:
    Michael Turner, Fred Taylor, Ahman Green, Domanick Williams(formerly Davis), etc.

    Well, to me, you have to weigh that against what you are losing...let's face it, that's not a whole lot with Tater, anyway...

    Mike Bell will be a much improved back next year, and he was already pretty good down the stretch.

    I also believe a Fred Taylor or a Chris Brown (particularly Brown, who I have watched for years from his Colorado days) could be revitalized in Denver for one year....basically, we would just be looking to get through one year. 2008 is a new Draft and a new season, so either of these players could allow the Broncos to get by for a year, especially when combined with an improved Mike Bell, and Cecil Sapp may figure in as well.

    But to me, Tater is no loss...

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  • Dream
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    Originally posted by MindField
    Maybe so...

    But RB's are a bit scarce, so maybe Tatum would have value for a team like the NY Giants who are faced with losing Tiki Barber..

    ...and Jake, Foster and our third for Houston's third and fourth? Well, we got a third and fourth for Lelie, so maybe that could happen....just a thought.
    I didn't see that we gave up our original third; makes more sense then.

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