Calvin Johnson runs a 4.33 at Disney

[Lorcust]

good point. . . .

Atleast they haven't pulled any John McCargo type Shenanigans so far.

[DevilSpawn]

Dogfish- your words explain exactly why the Raders won't do that. Your statement was, "if the faders were smart,".

Let's examine that for a minute. If the Raiders were smart. would they have played musical chairs with their coaches and co ordinators over the last decade? If the Raiders were smart, would they have continued to pay premium dollar to pick up the behavioral cast-offs from around the league. If they were smart, would Al Davis still be the egocentric, manipulative, undermining force that he is. The obvious conclusion is that they are not smart.

Their mantra of the 70's and 80's was commitment to excellence has become commitment to excrement. I can't see that changing before this draft begins. We as Bronco fans can continue to look forward to beating up on the Raiders twice a year.

Wow, commitment to excrement. Never saw that before. Care to bring anything new to the table?

Johnson or Russell, there will be improvements. Fix this, fix that, replace this guy with that guy. Build for the future. Reminds me of, oh just about every other team. If we weren't so smart, the defense wouldn't be what it is, right? And all of your explanations on why Cutler is the "smarter" move won't pan out until he proves he can win, which he hasn't done yet. Same with us and Kiffin, but I like out chances with him vs. Shell.

Just hope we're not smart enough to take Calvin Johnson. It's an arms race and you're not guarenteed to win jsut because your team is a smart as you think they are.

[stnzed]

Old news, and I guarentee Johnson doesn't run this at Indianapolis.

With this news coming out, I doubt he even runs at the combine.

4.33 smacks of "hype".

Lets wait and see what he runs at his pro day....If he runs!

[evendelae]

And as long as we have Champ, it doesn't matter either.

I think, scarily enough, it does matter.

Pray he goes to the Bucs people, PRAY!

[skinny®]

Yeah he is... Ted Ginn runs like a 4.35

Clowney is clocked at 4.32

[bengaaaaals1688]

Of course, and Johnson is #1 on my big board of players in this draft, (and I can't wait to show you guys my big board in real time during the draft) but there's no way in my mind he'll run that. Even a 4.4 or around there would be huge, but 4.33? That's one of the fastest in combine history. I really doubt it, but we'll see.

Chad Jackson ran a 4.28 last year if I remember correctly, so why are you so dead set against Johnson running a 4.32??

[Dean]

Wow, commitment to excrement. Never saw that before. Care to bring anything new to the table?

Johnson or Russell, there will be improvements. Fix this, fix that, replace this guy with that guy. Build for the future. Reminds me of, oh just about every other team. If we weren't so smart, the defense wouldn't be what it is, right? And all of your explanations on why Cutler is the "smarter" move won't pan out until he proves he can win, which he hasn't done yet. Same with us and Kiffin, but I like out chances with him vs. Shell.

Just hope we're not smart enough to take Calvin Johnson. It's an arms race and you're not guarenteed to win jsut because your team is a smart as you think they are.

Well DevilSpawn, when you are right you are right. However, in this millenium, the Faiders have managed to compile a record of 36 wins and sixty- count them- sixty loses. That is a winning percentage of below 38% and the trend is not looking good for the silver and black (five wins, then 4, then 2). There are no guarantees but DAM* those are good betting odds!

Oakland has been building for the future for decades. When they finally re-assembled something of quality, Big Al made the situation so uncomfortable that Gruden left. I hope that you don't take this as an attack on the crypt keeper. He has done as much to help the fortunes of the Denver Broncos of any man not in the organization. I come not to bury Al but to praise him. . . kind of.

[tommy1986]

I think Johnson just might be the best receiver prospect EVER. Randy Moss without the baggage.

[champbronc2]

That was my only doubt.

He is officially an amazing WR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DevilSpawn]

Well DevilSpawn, when you are right you are right. However, in this millenium, the Faiders have managed to compile a record of 36 wins and sixty- count them- sixty loses. That is a winning percentage of below 38% and the trend is not looking good for the silver and black (five wins, then 4, then 2). There are no guarantees but DAM* those are good betting odds!

Oakland has been building for the future for decades. When they finally re-assembled something of quality, Big Al made the situation so uncomfortable that Gruden left. I hope that you don't take this as an attack on the crypt keeper. He has done as much to help the fortunes of the Denver Broncos of any man not in the organization. I come not to bury Al but to praise him. . . kind of.

Oh shut up.

Gruden was a dumb move. When it first happened, there were rumors he was going to Tampa anyway (2001 was his last year of the contract) so Al saw fit to get some value for him instead of trying to keep him.

Al Davis is obsessed with speed like junkies are. I don't mean he loves speed. I mean he is obsessed with it. He gets the scratches when he sees a gifted guy with speed. Johnson as all the tools. But the good news for you guys is that Davis wants to keep Moss & Porter for Jamarcus Russell. He can't have both and then draft Johnson, that would virtually eliminate one of the three high paid players as well as leave much talented Curry out in the cold.

My wish: Trade Moss & our 2nd round pick to Detroit for their first and draft Russell & Johnson 1 & 2. But we won't know till draft day who he will take, which is why right now I'm am geting the scratches just anticipating it all.

[Lorcust]

Well DevilSpawn, when you are right you are right. However, in this millenium, the Faiders have managed to compile a record of 36 wins and sixty- count them- sixty loses. That is a winning percentage of below 38% and the trend is not looking good for the silver and black (five wins, then 4, then 2). There are no guarantees but DAM* those are good betting odds!

Oakland has been building for the future for decades. When they finally re-assembled something of quality, Big Al made the situation so uncomfortable that Gruden left. I hope that you don't take this as an attack on the crypt keeper. He has done as much to help the fortunes of the Denver Broncos of any man not in the organization. I come not to bury Al but to praise him. . . kind of.

Don't forget.

Who fired Shanahan?

[Inkana7]

Don't forget.

Who fired Shanahan?

Great point! That firing may have set about the greatest revenge story in the history of pro sports.

[stnzed]

I think Johnson just might be the best receiver prospect EVER. Randy Moss without the baggage.

Scouts Inc. actually called Johnson "Randy Moss and terrell Owens without the baggage".

That would have to qualify as the "Best receiver prospect ever", or at least very close.

(but then any WR without the Princess attitude is considered a freak)

[HORSEPOWER 56]

All this means to me is that his bust factor just tripled. Everyone already knew he was the best WR in the class, but now this is one more thing that could cause folks to shake their heads when he doesn't turn out to be the best thing in the NFL.

I'm in no way saying he's going to bust, but if something seems to good to be true, it usually is.

[DevilSpawn]

All this means to me is that his bust factor just tripled. Everyone already knew he was the best WR in the class, but now this is one more thing that could cause folks to shake their heads when he doesn't turn out to be the best thing in the NFL.

I'm in no way saying he's going to bust, but if something seems to good to be true, it usually is.

Bust? No. But if they compare a player to the TWO best players at that position minus their weaknesses, then they are setting his fans up for a letdown. It means Johnson has to have 1500+ yards and double digit TDs every year until he retires, and then 3 years after that in flag football. Anything less and they'll say he didn't live up to the hype that THEY created.

The NBA had some like that. Remeber Harold Miner, aka Baby Jordan. That's right, and he stayed playing like Jordan as a baby instead of Jordan the NBA legend. It's a borderline curse. Hindsight is for later though. For now, he's tall, fast, has hands and lacks baggage. Other than the hype, I see nothing wrong with the kid.