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  • #16
    Originally posted by MikeBellNumba20
    no bush, guys we need willis mcgahee lets just give them the money, imean thin about it like this we get iwllis and win the Superbowl or dotn pay the money adn dont win thats ot, we need a strong fast agile veteran back in our back field

    Denver doesn't have money to throw around.

    Mcgahee isn't fast, and he's a head down power runner. We might as well get Jamal Lewis for 4X cheaper.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MikeBellNumba20
      no bush, guys we need willis mcgahee lets just give them the money, imean thin about it like this we get iwllis and win the Superbowl or dotn pay the money adn dont win thats ot, we need a strong fast agile veteran back in our back field

      Willis McGahee is an ego guy Shanahan doesnt go for those guys, and he isnt a one cut and go guy

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      • #18
        Originally posted by huskerbroncofan
        i

        Dumervil is going to develop into one of the best pass rushers i think

        Considering the teams we compete with, like Indianapolis, patriots, and Bengals continue to move to a no huddle offense, it makes specialists like Dumervil almost worthless.

        we need an every down DE that is best at rushing the passer.

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        • #19
          BLITZ!!!!! BLITZ!!!!!!! BLITZ!!!!!!!. you need to read some of my other post in the DL and S threads....IMO
          I hate the Defenseless Receiver rule and the fines. Posted since '07. 2011 rule addition :nono: backhand a fool!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by marcus_miller
            BLITZ!!!!! BLITZ!!!!!!! BLITZ!!!!!!!. you need to read some of my other post in the DL and S threads....IMO

            We tried that 2 years ago and got slaughtered for it.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by NickTranOwnz
              Trading down is a possibility.

              The D-line isn't that important now. They are set for at most two seasons, and are definitely set for this season. They've been repaired with band-aids.

              RB and S is what I am most concerned about. We need a safety to get experience on the bench and 2nd team this season. Lynch is probably going to retire after this season and we need a safety to go in. We can't just start a rookie safety.

              The offense and defense is pretty much set besides for S and RB. We need an RB. With a weakened right-side o-line now (as Foster left and Carlisle is likely to leave), we have to bring in a proven power runner who can make their own holes or reinforce the o-line and bring in any RB and let the Bobby Turner-Mike Shanahan magic happen. But I really want Thomas Jones. We can get O-line depth in the later rounds.
              The problem with your logic is by your own admission that we would need a power back automatically negates bringing Jones in. He isn't a power back so if our o-line is weak then he won't be able to get it done.

              With the way things have gone so far this season I am at a bit of a loss for our team as to what they are trying to do exactly. I expected Bell, Foster, and Plummer to be gone but I had hoped that we would trade them for picks and not for players. While I am satisfied for now with picking up Bly I think that we would have been better served by trying to get picks instead. The way I envisioned this process happening was by using those extra picks to elicit trades for players that would fill needs for our team. Now, I don't really know what the plan would be.

              I am not interested in most (really any) of the rbs that are out there. To me Mcgahee is no different then Bell was. Yes, they both bring something different to the team but the things surrounding them bring a similar feeling. McGahee is going to want to be paid like he is something that he isn't. Could he be successful here? Yes, but you can say that of just about any back.

              Due to this I feel that our rb will now most definitely be addressed in the draft. Even though this year isn't overly deep in that regard I believe that we can get a rb in the 2nd-4th rounds that will produce similarly to any FA back out there and at a much cheaper price. As for how we fix the other areas of need on this team your guess is as good as mine.

              I hope beyond hope that we just sit and wait for a week or two before resuming any activity in the FA pool. I am sorry but any FA we sign right now is going to be for waaaaaaaaaay too much money, and they won't be worth it in the long run. We just need to sit tight and focus on positioning ourselves as well as we can to address needs through the draft. Otherwise we can kiss goodbye the idea of ever finding ourselves not in salary cap he!!.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by silkamilkamonic
                We tried that 2 years ago and got slaughtered for it.

                things have changed with two shut down corners and will change with A centerfield FS....teams run a 3-4...why... so they can send a blitzer or two on every play

                No 4 dl can have a great pass rush with out someone else or two or three blitzing

                If you blanket the recivers with 2-3 corners one safety and a LB the other 6 or 7 can pass rush/ blitz....its just how it works
                I hate the Defenseless Receiver rule and the fines. Posted since '07. 2011 rule addition :nono: backhand a fool!

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                • #23
                  wait

                  so we dotn have the money even if we wanted mcgahee??
                  BACK TO THE SUPERBOWL

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by silkamilkamonic
                    Considering the teams we compete with, like Indianapolis, patriots, and Bengals continue to move to a no huddle offense, it makes specialists like Dumervil almost worthless.

                    we need an every down DE that is best at rushing the passer.

                    Dumervil was a rookie last year he will develop into an every down DE

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by marcus_miller
                      things have changed with two shut down corners and will change with A centerfield FS....teams run a 3-4...why... so they can send a blitzer or two on every play

                      No 4 dl can have a great pass rush with out someone else or two or three blitzing

                      If you blanket the recivers with 2-3 corners one safety and a LB the other 6 or 7 can pass rush/ blitz....its just how it works

                      Bly is hardly a shutdown corner. He's more like a Deltha O Neal. He gave up more TD's in the last 2 years then most other starting Cb's in the league. He's a gambler that hits and misses. For every big play he makes, he probably gives up 2.

                      The best 4-3 pass rushers don't blitz, because they don't have too.

                      Chicago, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay. They contineously get pressure from their front 4.

                      If you use blanket coverage with 5 and rush everyone else, you're going to get killed in the flats by the RB and on inside slants with the TE. Much in the same way Pittsburgh beat us in the ACCG 2 years ago.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by huskerbroncofan
                        Dumervil was a rookie last year he will develop into an every down DE

                        How?

                        He wasn't a very good run stopper in college. He isn't even tall enough to see the backfield and where the ball is. Cincinatti ran every run play at him last year for 5+ yards, and he was a literal non factor.

                        He doesn't have the bulk, or the frame, to hold down his block. Not to mention team's can put their TE on him without any problem in the run game, freeing up their interior linemen to push up into the second unit.

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                        • #27
                          he wasnt even a starter and her led the team in sacks

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                          • #28
                            i think after missing our opportunity to get kerney we will persue Kevin Carter. The fins just cut him and he is another guy that would add some needed depth at line. I dont think he will be big $$$ either. As for going after willis i think it is highly doubtful that we land him seeing as his agent is drew and he wants top back money. The best back out there for the money will be Jones imo. he is a solid running back and can do all the other things such blocking and catching out of the backfield. He isnt great but he had a very good year behind an average line in chi-town....the only problem is chicago wants a 1st for him...that wont happen....hopefully shanny has been plotting something and there is a method to his madness
                            Backing Moreno, Ayers, and Smith for 09.
                            Supporting this staff!
                            Yes, I know my name is outdated, too lazy to care though hah = )

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jay2Javon4life
                              i think after missing our opportunity to get kerney we will persue Kevin Carter. The fins just cut him and he is another guy that would add some needed depth at line. I dont think he will be big $$$ either. As for going after willis i think it is highly doubtful that we land him seeing as his agent is drew and he wants top back money. The best back out there for the money will be Jones imo. he is a solid running back and can do all the other things such blocking and catching out of the backfield. He isnt great but he had a very good year behind an average line in chi-town....the only problem is chicago wants a 1st for him...that wont happen....hopefully shanny has been plotting something and there is a method to his madness

                              I agree kevin curtis would be a good pick up, willis mcgahee wont happen, but i think denver will get a TE maybe daniel graham idk but someone, as for RB it will come in the draft along with a DE, i still think that the return game and punting game needs to be adressed anyone agree?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by huskerbroncofan
                                he wasnt even a starter and her led the team in sacks

                                Right. He's a pass rushing specialist. Which mean's he doesn't do much, if anything, against the run.

                                The "specialist" label means he's a liability against the run.

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