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  • silkamilkamonic
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    Originally posted by marcus_miller

    only quoting fragments of sentences............come on

    You're kidding me? You lose all credibility here.

    Those "fragmented sentences" I quoted were entire 'statements' made by you.

    You don't capitalize, you don't use comma's/periods, and you don't distinguish between sentences.


    Is this really a sentence?

    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    if you blitz they are going to need to keep a te and or rb in to pass protect

    who are those five guys covering? ( 2 WR most likely maybe three) some ones staying in to pass protect
    is this?.....

    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    if not the pass to TE or RB is a (short and quick pass and CB and S move up to stop... there is still a LB there who is he covering

    one things for sure if it was a completed pass we wouldnt get beat deep because the pass would be out in 2 seconds

    Contineously pressure? doesn't = a sufficant pass rush and those teams blitz more then you think

    This D will be different then the 05 AFC D we had


    How about this?


    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    so dont use that

    bly is not shut down corner? (maybe not perfect) but everyone is saying we are going to have the best CB duo in the league, maybe best ever

    4-3 teams dont blitz because they dont have to? what plane of reality does that exist on
    I'll look over all the other nonsense, thank you very much.

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  • marcus_miller
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    Hey man, you were the one saying Denver should use blanket coverage, and then proceeded to state the Db's in man coverage, when it's a zone scheme.

    Sounds to me like you don't understand what you're talking about.
    Blanket coverage doent necasarily mean zone

    it means all the recievers are covered well we will be matched up man on the outsides mostly this year...

    now that i cleared that up everything else falls into place....right

    best ever maybe,,, quite taking my words out of context ( thats cheap)

    almost evereything you quoted was out of contex

    only quoting fragments of sentences............come on
    Last edited by marcus_miller; 03-03-2007, 02:44 PM.

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  • MikeBellNumba20
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    ok

    so how much money do we have

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  • silkamilkamonic
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    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    if you blitz they are going to need to keep a te and or rb in to pass protect
    Not necessarily. An inside slant for a TE takes about 1.5 seconds which is more then enough time.

    A RB in the flat takes almost 2 seconds, and the longer a QB can hold on the more of a big play oppurtunity it has. It works like a screen against the blitz, but it doesn't take as much time to setup.

    You can beat any blitz with a quick route because the idea is sucking the defense into the backfield.

    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    who are those five guys covering? ( 2 WR most likely maybe three) some ones staying in to pass protect..........if not the pass to TE or RB is a (short and quick pass and CB and S move up to stop... there is still a L there who is he covering
    I just went off your assumption that they would be in blanket coverage like you said. That's a zone coverage scheme, not man to man, which means any TE, RB, or even a WR on a short inside slant is going to be open.

    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    Contineously pressure? doesn't = a sufficant pass rush and those teams blitz more then you think
    No they don't. Chicago rarely blitzes. They had to more at the end because their stud DT was injured. The more pressure you can get with the front 4, means more players sit back in coverage.

    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    This D will be different then the 05 AFC D we had.... so dont use that

    I'll see it when I believe it.


    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    bly is not shut down corner? (maybe not perfect) but everyone is saying we are going to have the best CB duo in the league, maybe best ever
    Best ever? Your reaching. People will see how overrated Bly is this year when he gets beat on the long balls. And if Denver's blitzing alot like you say they will, Bly will be in single coverage, which means if he doesn't make the play, nobody will.

    I laughed on Thanksgiving, when after Bly called Joey Harrington out as the single reason why Detroit sucked, harrington proceeded to burn Bly for 2 TD's that game.

    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    4-3 teams dont blitz because they dont have to? what plane of reality does that exist on....
    It doesn't. I don't know where you reached with that one.

    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    im done if you dont get it you never will
    Hey man, you were the one saying Denver should use blanket coverage, and then proceeded to state the Db's in man coverage, when it's a zone scheme.

    Sounds to me like you don't understand what you're talking about.

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  • marcus_miller
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    Originally posted by silkamilkamonic
    Bly is hardly a shutdown corner. He's more like a Deltha O Neal. He gave up more TD's in the last 2 years then most other starting Cb's in the league. He's a gambler that hits and misses. For every big play he makes, he probably gives up 2.

    The best 4-3 pass rushers don't blitz, because they don't have too.

    Chicago, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay. They contineously get pressure from their front 4.

    If you use blanket coverage with 5 and rush everyone else, you're going to get killed in the flats by the RB and on inside slants with the TE. Much in the same way Pittsburgh beat us in the ACCG 2 years ago.
    if you blitz they are going to need to keep a te and or rb in to pass protect

    who are those five guys covering? ( 2 WR most likely maybe three) some ones staying in to pass protect..........if not the pass to TE or RB is a (short and quick pass and CB and S move up to stop... there is still a LB there who is he covering

    one things for sure if it was a completed pass we wouldnt get beat deep because the pass would be out in 2 seconds

    Contineously pressure? doesn't = a sufficant pass rush and those teams blitz more then you think

    This D will be different then the 05 AFC D we had.... so dont use that

    bly is not shut down corner? (maybe not perfect) but everyone is saying we are going to have the best CB duo in the league, maybe best ever

    4-3 teams dont blitz because they dont have to? what plane of reality does that exist on....

    im done if you dont get it you never will
    Last edited by marcus_miller; 03-03-2007, 02:19 PM.

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  • MikeBellNumba20
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    how much

    how much do we have, and how would any of us know for sure how much we have its only guessing

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  • huskerbroncofan
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    Originally posted by MikeBellNumba20
    we will get mcgahee or thomas jones youll see

    with what money?? i agree maybe they would work but i just dont see it.. i would rahter see someone else like ahman green or jamal lewis, but would prefer denver just draft someone

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  • MikeBellNumba20
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    we will

    we will get mcgahee or thomas jones youll see

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  • huskerbroncofan
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    Originally posted by silkamilkamonic
    Right. He's a pass rushing specialist. Which mean's he doesn't do much, if anything, against the run.

    The "specialist" label means he's a liability against the run.

    i know what ur saying i just think he can and will develop into it

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  • silkamilkamonic
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    Originally posted by huskerbroncofan
    he wasnt even a starter and her led the team in sacks

    Right. He's a pass rushing specialist. Which mean's he doesn't do much, if anything, against the run.

    The "specialist" label means he's a liability against the run.

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  • huskerbroncofan
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    Originally posted by Jay2Javon4life
    i think after missing our opportunity to get kerney we will persue Kevin Carter. The fins just cut him and he is another guy that would add some needed depth at line. I dont think he will be big $$$ either. As for going after willis i think it is highly doubtful that we land him seeing as his agent is drew and he wants top back money. The best back out there for the money will be Jones imo. he is a solid running back and can do all the other things such blocking and catching out of the backfield. He isnt great but he had a very good year behind an average line in chi-town....the only problem is chicago wants a 1st for him...that wont happen....hopefully shanny has been plotting something and there is a method to his madness

    I agree kevin curtis would be a good pick up, willis mcgahee wont happen, but i think denver will get a TE maybe daniel graham idk but someone, as for RB it will come in the draft along with a DE, i still think that the return game and punting game needs to be adressed anyone agree?

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  • Jay2Javon4life
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    i think after missing our opportunity to get kerney we will persue Kevin Carter. The fins just cut him and he is another guy that would add some needed depth at line. I dont think he will be big $$$ either. As for going after willis i think it is highly doubtful that we land him seeing as his agent is drew and he wants top back money. The best back out there for the money will be Jones imo. he is a solid running back and can do all the other things such blocking and catching out of the backfield. He isnt great but he had a very good year behind an average line in chi-town....the only problem is chicago wants a 1st for him...that wont happen....hopefully shanny has been plotting something and there is a method to his madness

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  • huskerbroncofan
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    he wasnt even a starter and her led the team in sacks

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  • silkamilkamonic
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    Originally posted by huskerbroncofan
    Dumervil was a rookie last year he will develop into an every down DE

    How?

    He wasn't a very good run stopper in college. He isn't even tall enough to see the backfield and where the ball is. Cincinatti ran every run play at him last year for 5+ yards, and he was a literal non factor.

    He doesn't have the bulk, or the frame, to hold down his block. Not to mention team's can put their TE on him without any problem in the run game, freeing up their interior linemen to push up into the second unit.

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  • silkamilkamonic
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    Originally posted by marcus_miller
    things have changed with two shut down corners and will change with A centerfield FS....teams run a 3-4...why... so they can send a blitzer or two on every play

    No 4 dl can have a great pass rush with out someone else or two or three blitzing

    If you blanket the recivers with 2-3 corners one safety and a LB the other 6 or 7 can pass rush/ blitz....its just how it works

    Bly is hardly a shutdown corner. He's more like a Deltha O Neal. He gave up more TD's in the last 2 years then most other starting Cb's in the league. He's a gambler that hits and misses. For every big play he makes, he probably gives up 2.

    The best 4-3 pass rushers don't blitz, because they don't have too.

    Chicago, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay. They contineously get pressure from their front 4.

    If you use blanket coverage with 5 and rush everyone else, you're going to get killed in the flats by the RB and on inside slants with the TE. Much in the same way Pittsburgh beat us in the ACCG 2 years ago.

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