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    As we move toward the draft, everyone seems to be concentrating on our first/second round picks. I was wondering what some of the experts (this means you MUG) thought about the later round guys, like our round 6 and 7 picks. As an OU fan, I am in particular wondering where C J Ah You, Larry Birdine, and Calvin Thibodeaux will be drafted, if at all. What other guys could be sleeper picks at the end of the draft at Defensive End?
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    Thibodeaux is very interesting. I saw game tape and was real impressed with his motor. A lot of draft boards have him being a 7th rounder at best, probably because of his size 6-0 248. Birdline and Ah You are projected to be taken late on day 2.

    The guy I really like is Dan Bazuin DE from Central Michigan. He might be drafted in the 3rd but if he lasts longer he would be a steal. Another guy I like is David Patterson from OH St. He played DT but other than being a touch slow really looks like a strongside DE. Patterson should last until the 6th or 7th rd.

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    • #3
      Late 3rds we could look at are:

      DEs
      Dan Bazuin, C.J. Ah You, Jay Moore, and Baraka Atkins.
      DTs
      Brandon Mebane, and possibly Paul Soliai and Marcus Thomas

      All of which I think are great value in the late 3rd, and all of which could slip even further due to it being such a deep DE draft and/or other concerns.


      6th/7th Round "Names"

      DEs
      Larry Birdine, Chase Pittman, Mkristo Bruce, Ryan McBean, and Jay Richardson.
      DTs
      Jay Alford, Joe Cohen, David Patterson, Matt Toeania, Kareem Brown, Keith Jackson, and Clifton Ryan.


      6/7th Round Guys (aka sleepers):

      DEs
      Chris Spann (Nebraska-Omaha Div II)
      Adam Wolffe (North Dakota)
      Greg Peterson (North Carolina Central Div II)
      Brendon Osuocha (Southwest Minnesota State)

      DTs
      J.P. Bekasiak (Toledo)
      Jordan Hill (Arizona State)
      Daniel Muir (Kent State)


      Any of these sleeper guys could be exciting to get. All are boom or bust though.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan
        Late 3rds we could look at are:

        DEs
        Dan Bazuin, C.J. Ah You, Jay Moore, and Baraka Atkins.
        DTs
        Brandon Mebane, and possibly Paul Soliai and Marcus Thomas

        All of which I think are great value in the late 3rd, and all of which could slip even further due to it being such a deep DE draft and/or other concerns.


        6th/7th Round "Names"

        DEs
        Larry Birdine, Chase Pittman, Mkristo Bruce, Ryan McBean, and Jay Richardson.
        DTs
        Jay Alford, Joe Cohen, David Patterson, Matt Toeania, Kareem Brown, Keith Jackson, and Clifton Ryan.


        6/7th Round Guys (aka sleepers):

        DEs
        Chris Spann (Nebraska-Omaha Div II)
        Adam Wolffe (North Dakota)
        Greg Peterson (North Carolina Central Div II)
        Brendon Osuocha (Southwest Minnesota State)

        DTs
        J.P. Bekasiak (Toledo)
        Jordan Hill (Arizona State)
        Daniel Muir (Kent State)


        Any of these sleeper guys could be exciting to get. All are boom or bust though.

        Another is Hawaii DE Ikaika Alama-Francis. I have heard the Broncos like him as well, and he figures into that late second, early third round area.

        He is raw, but he has an impressive physical build, and there is a track record of success in the NFL with developmental guys like him. He has been compared to Adewalye Ogungulye and Osi Yumenyiora (Sp??). But he has the athleticism and the long arms, and baseketball player build that seems to be in vogue at the moment in the NFL.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Downhill Runner
          Another is Hawaii DE Ikaika Alama-Francis. I have heard the Broncos like him as well, and he figures into that late second, early third round area.

          He is raw, but he has an impressive physical build, and there is a track record of success in the NFL with developmental guys like him. He has been compared to Adewalye Ogungulye and Osi Yumenyiora (Sp??). But he has the athleticism and the long arms, and baseketball player build that seems to be in vogue at the moment in the NFL.

          I left him out because he would likely be gone by the late 3rd. As it stands, he is strictly a 3-4 DE. At 280+ lbs, he's nothing like either Ogunleye or Umenyiora, both of which play under 260lbs and focus on speed and athleticism.

          He doesn't remotely fit our scheme though.

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          • #6
            I wouldn't mind having Ah You. I would VERY MUCH like Ikaika Alama-Francis in the 3rd round. He can play end or tackle, 3-4 or 4-3. Very versatile.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NickTranOwnz
              I wouldn't mind having Ah You. I would VERY MUCH like Ikaika Alama-Francis in the 3rd round. He can play end or tackle, 3-4 or 4-3. Very versatile.

              In a typical scheme, perhaps. Not in a Jim Bates scheme.

              I also wouldn't say he'd play DT by any stretch, not even in a 4-3. He might be used as a Power End in a 4-3 allignment, but I'm not kidding or just pulling this out of my butt when I say he is strictly a 3-4 DE in the Pros.

              That's who will take him in the 3rd round, a 3-4 team, to play DE.

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