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  • #91
    Originally posted by Fat Joe
    I dont see Briggs coming to Denver unless he becomes a DE and we dont have to give up a first rounder. If its a first rounder they want, I dont think they'll get it from Denver and I dont think they'll get it anywhere, not because Briggs isnt good, but because no ones going to give up a 1st for him knowing he's essentially in a position to get what he wants, not what the Bears want to get for him. He holds out, the Bears take a bigger hit then he does.


    briggs becoming a de?? not gonna happen.

    like i said before, teams are the most desperate come draft day. the packers knew they should get a lot for javon walker. imo walker was worth a 1st or early 2nd. however if a player is threatening to hold out then teams are willing to dump the guy to at least get something in return for him. we STOLE walker for a 3rd.

    so hopefully we have enough sense to wait till draft day to make any deals. not unless chicago wants to trade for pick #21 straight up, then it would be well worth it. its very rare to get a rookie at pick 21 and have them make an immediate impact on a football team. it does happen but usually they take a couple years to develop.

    the concern about briggs is where would he play and what kind of money is he going to want? he wants 10-15 mil guaranteed which isnt all that bad. all he wants is job security, a long term deal. denver should have no problem staying under the cap to make this happen.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by TXBRONC
      That's only part of my concern with doing it. The other is that he is going to be very expensive. So in my opinion why bring him in when we could get high quality linebacker from this year's draft.
      IF a trade for Briggs happened, it would only happen if the Broncos came out on top of the trade. Remember last year? Thompson saying there was no way Javon was going to be traded for a 2nd. GB wanted a 1st because thats what he was worth, and he was coming off a injury! Of course that was just to try and get as much out of the broncos as possilbe. but Shanny didnt bite, and he got his man for a 2nd after all. Shanny knows that Chicagos front office are the ones with a problem. Briggs has already said hes not playing and will sit (sound familiar?Uh javon?)
      Shanny will just wait it out till the last second, and then the Bears will be the ones stuck with a big issue on their hands.
      I also think that the deadskins deal fell through from both sides. I think the intitial offer was waaay tooo much and Schnieder thought "what the hell, these guys are turning down the # 6 pick! Am i crazy! thats waay too much to offer! forget it! I think he re-thought the whole thing and just told the bears to pound sand.
      its just speculation, but neither teams coaching staff or GMs have experience making big trades.(what i mean by that is schnieders always screws himself) I dont think Lovie smith or the bears have made any big trades i can think of. IMHO they are just lowballing everyone because they are not knowledgeable at trades.
      I think Shanny will just sit back and wait it out till they are just desperate. I would not be suprised if Briggs makes a public or possibly a private statement (to the bears) about his current situation which would add leverage to him being traded.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by socalorado1
        IF a trade for Briggs happened, it would only happen if the Broncos came out on top of the trade. Remember last year? Thompson saying there was no way Javon was going to be traded for a 2nd. GB wanted a 1st because thats what he was worth, and he was coming off a injury! Of course that was just to try and get as much out of the broncos as possilbe. but Shanny didnt bite, and he got his man for a 2nd after all. Shanny knows that Chicagos front office are the ones with a problem. Briggs has already said hes not playing and will sit (sound familiar?Uh javon?)
        Shanny will just wait it out till the last second, and then the Bears will be the ones stuck with a big issue on their hands.
        I also think that the deadskins deal fell through from both sides. I think the intitial offer was waaay tooo much and Schnieder thought "what the hell, these guys are turning down the # 6 pick! Am i crazy! thats waay too much to offer! forget it! I think he re-thought the whole thing and just told the bears to pound sand.
        its just speculation, but neither teams coaching staff or GMs have experience making big trades.(what i mean by that is schnieders always screws himself) I dont think Lovie smith or the bears have made any big trades i can think of. IMHO they are just lowballing everyone because they are not knowledgeable at trades.
        I think Shanny will just sit back and wait it out till they are just desperate. I would not be suprised if Briggs makes a public or possibly a private statement (to the bears) about his current situation which would add leverage to him being traded.
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        I agree with you there. I think this could turn into a Javon type situation. I think that since Briggs was healthy with no injury concerns that I can see why the higher price tag. If we could pull a Javon type deal of with Briggs I would be all for it, but it comes down to money. Pay a first rounder and then Briggs, I don't know if we could, espeacily with signing the rest of the draft class. Won't be big bucks for the rest but we son't have massive cap space.

        I think that the Bears not having experiance with big trades really has nothing to do with it. Its an NFL team with personal that have done this for years, thats why they have the job. Building a Super Bowl team, I think there front office knows what they are doing.
        Thanks WhiteDragon!

        http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=85326 Last years 1st RD Mock
        GM Draft-#24-CB Aqib Talib Kansas
        #54-WR Earl Bennett Vandy
        #85-G Roy Schuening OSU
        #114(via HOU-Pacman Trade) TE Brad Cottam TEN
        #120 LB Ben Moffit USF
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        Block: TE Troupe RB Brown DT Starks

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        • #94
          Originally posted by BroncoAV06
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          I agree with you there. I think this could turn into a Javon type situation. I think that since Briggs was healthy with no injury concerns that I can see why the higher price tag. If we could pull a Javon type deal of with Briggs I would be all for it, but it comes down to money. Pay a first rounder and then Briggs, I don't know if we could, espeacily with signing the rest of the draft class. Won't be big bucks for the rest but we son't have massive cap space.

          I think that the Bears not having experiance with big trades really has nothing to do with it. Its an NFL team with personal that have done this for years, thats why they have the job. Building a Super Bowl team, I think there front office knows what they are doing.
          Uh i agree they know what they are doing, but some teams have a philosophy of always "lowballing" other teams or "never negotiate to another teams needs" and thats just how they do buisness. Sort of a "old school" way of doing things. thats what Lovie Smith and the Bears remind me of. I saw Lovie on NFL network last night and he had this wry smile and just commented that Briggs was on the team and he would be on the field the 1st game of the season. You could just tell the whole thing was contrived, and he was just not going to comment on the situation. Which i would expect every coach to do as well. I just got the sense that there is a much bigger problem than he was letting on with briggs.
          General manager Jerry Angelo informed Briggs he would be their franchise player. He was given a one-year tender at $7.206 million. I think if Bowlen covinced him that he would eventually get his money in the near future, he would take a deal for a year or 2 and just be glad he is out from under the Urlacher shadow.
          Than again he could just be a money whore.

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          • #95
            If they do this, I think its to avoid screwing up on their first round pick. LB isnt really as big of a need as S or DL or even OT. I wouldnt mind our 21 for Tommie Harris though.

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            • #96
              i have 2 things to comment on:
              first
              i would rather have briggs than trade up for willis between a 10th pick money and what briggs wants in money there wont be much difference. so get briggs the proven player and pay him.

              second
              briggs doesnt care about the the short term money he wants a long deal like porter got. he wants the 20 mil gaurenteed that way he is set for life rather than if he gets hurt and cant play again and not getting anymore money

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              • #97
                Originally posted by BigJuan
                i have 2 things to comment on:
                first
                i would rather have briggs than trade up for willis between a 10th pick money and what briggs wants in money there wont be much difference. so get briggs the proven player and pay him.

                second
                briggs doesnt care about the the short term money he wants a long deal like porter got. he wants the 20 mil gaurenteed that way he is set for life rather than if he gets hurt and cant play again and not getting anymore money
                Well if no one else comes to his rescue financially in the near future, Briggs is going to have to deal with another team that may not want to pay him HUGE money for his services. Chi. will just trade him for whatever the best offer is, and that team will have to deal with his complaining. Who else has expressed interest?
                There has to be another team looking for a player of his calibur with alot of money to blow. If he was smart, he would request a decent trade to the Broncos where he knows he will be on a winner, and he will eventually get paid. if alls he wants is the money, hes in for a long ride. I only say this becuase i could see the Bears just saying "scew him, let him sit" and taking the hit if they dont get a offer thats adequate. I am just speculating from a couple standpoints.

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                • #98
                  I did not read through this thread but I have heard for the past week that Washington is the only team to even call about Briggs.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by NBudris
                    I did not read through this thread but I have heard for the past week that Washington is the only team to even call about Briggs.
                    This is good news as we all near the draft. Everyone is getting tight-lipped as is.
                    If Briggs started creating static in the next couple of days with the bears maybe they would be hardpressed to just get rid of the headache.
                    ENTER Shanny!

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                    • A buddy of mine in Chicago called this morning again. Apparently the "Rumor" is becomming much more than a "Rumor". He is going to try and email me some sites reporting more about the "Rumor". Javon paved the way and I am sure they will be doing the same for Briggs.

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                      • but with javons deal we got a steal, our 2nd for him, we came out on top.

                        briggs for our 1st, i guess its even, i dont personally think he is worth a 1st but thats just my opinion. but if we nabbed him for a 2nd. never look back!!, of course that will never happen.

                        but i am with you, that he will be traded on draft day.
                        So far:
                        FA- Melvin Gordon. Brandon Scherff
                        1. Kenneth Murray LB; 2. Shenault WR; 2B. Biadazz Center, 3. OT

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                        • BRIGGS IS COMMING!!!!!!!! GET READY!!!!!
                          The rumors are heating up.... more to come in the next day!

                          http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10146725
                          21. Denver: Lawrence Timmons, LB, Florida State -- There are a few rumors around that Denver will trade this pick to get Lance Briggs. There's no doubt Briggs is a better player than Timmons at this point in his career, and Mike Shanahan needs the strongest defense possible while Jay Cutler learns on the job. If Denver stays, it could come down to Timmons or Jon Beason. Two weeks ago, it looked like DE Jarvis Moss would wind up here, but his latest workout didn't help him.

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                          • http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10146725


                            (April 16, 2007) -- Finally, the NFL draft is within days and all the evaluations are just about done. Most teams are locking up their draft boards, and the only thing that can change a grade will be a late rumor about an off-the-field problem or a medical issue.

                            The only thing that can change a team strategy is a potential draft-day trade. For weeks, teams have "inquired" about moving up or down in the draft with other franchises. Detroit should have options to move down in the draft if the Raiders don't select Calvin Johnson.

                            Tampa Bay (and possibly Atlanta) could be on the move up to Detroit's spot. Both teams have the extra Day 1 picks to pull off a trade. Washington has the No. 6 overall pick, however, as of now, that's its only Day 1 pick--- it needs to add at least one more.

                            Few people feel Brady Quinn will slide in this draft like Matt Leinart did last year, and if the Browns don't intend to take him, a team like Miami could consider a move up to get him.

                            Then, of course, there are still a few veteran players who could be moved via trade early on April 28. Chargers running back Michael Turner could change Tennessee's or Buffalo's draft plans. Talks involving Lance Briggs might heat up in the next few days, and a team like Denver could conclude that paying Briggs and giving away their first-round spot is better business than taking a rookie linebacker. Trent Green has more control of his destiny than most would assume. He should be a Dolphin by the night of April 28. Keep in mind, the Chiefs don't have a fourth-round pick, and it will make sense to the Chiefs to move him.

                            Randy Moss, Kris Jenkins and a few surprises are all possible draft-day trades that will make it an exciting weekend for the football fans

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                            • Bears GM denies trade talks about Briggs

                              NFL.com wire reports



                              LAKE FOREST, Ill. (April 24, 2007) -- Chicago Bears general manager Jerry Angelo denied the team has been involved in trade talks regarding disgruntled linebacker Lance Briggs.

                              "I've not heard anything official from anybody," Angelo said at a news conference to discuss this weekend's NFL draft.

                              Several reports claimed a handful of teams besides the Washington Redskins have talked to the Bears about trading for Briggs, who is guaranteed $7.2 million by the Bears this season as their franchise player.

                              Briggs is not taking part in the team's voluntary conditioning program at Halas Hall.

                              "To me, Lance's situation is that he's a part of our ball club and I assume Lance Briggs, No. 55, will be out there the first game," coach Lovie Smith added. "Once he has to be here, he'll be a part of it. That's how I'm looking at Lance Briggs."

                              Briggs wants to be traded or receive a long-term contract. The Redskins last month offered the Bears their sixth pick overall in the draft for Briggs and the Bears' 31st overall pick. The deal reportedly fell through when the Bears also wanted another player.

                              Although Angelo said he hasn't heard from the Redskins or another team in recent weeks, he said such talk usually heats up in the days preceding the draft.

                              "Could it happen? It could happen," Angelo said. "But I can't sit here and put a percentage on it one way or another. I'm not in control of that."

                              The Bears cannot initiate trade talk for Briggs because he is a franchise player.

                              Angelo said even though Briggs has threatened to hold out unless traded, his status doesn't necessarily impact the team's draft day decisions.

                              "We're looking at him as he's going to be on our football team," Angelo said. "We do have players that are capable of playing the position so we're OK that way too."

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                              • Rumor or not...

                                the Briggs deal to me seems like one of Shanahan's most likely moves IMO.

                                First, Briggs is easily worth a 1st round pick, compared to who else the Broncos would be looking at with 21.

                                Second, Shanny has a strong history of trades.

                                Third, Shanny has a strong history of grabbing disgruntled players

                                Fourth, Briggs brings A LOT of versatility, and defensive attitude from the Bears to a defense that just released its defensive leader and needs a boost.

                                Plus, the acquisition of Briggs allows Denver to hold onto its other day 1 picks to address other glaring needs.

                                We've heard lots of trade talk, #2 with Detroit, #10 with Houston, etc, but I believe this talk of Briggs to be the most likely and beneficial course of action.

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