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  • #16
    maybe the raiders are thinking about trading back to #4 and hoping quinn falls to there, and are taking advantage of being able to nagotiate because they are the #1 pick,
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    • #17
      Originally posted by BroncosInsider
      Stretch, you hope the Raiders draft Quinn because you are a fan of them? Because you are looking out for their best interest? A guy with less bust potential than Russell. You are hoping the Raiders become competitive? Because if they take Quinn that would be the smartest thing they could do.
      I wonder what they'd get to trade down for Quinn? They should get CJ though; he's got it all and more in a scouts perspective, plus he has the least bust potential.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by omac
        I wonder what they'd get to trade down for Quinn? They should get CJ though; he's got it all and more in a scouts perspective, plus he has the least bust potential.

        Say Oakland drafts CJ. Now they have three problems:

        1. Three top-tier receivers, two of whom are not exactly motivated.
        2. No QB to get these three receivers the ball.
        3. No O-Line to protect said QB.

        Probably doesn't need to be said, but: Oakland is in bad shape!
        "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -Yogi Berra

        "All models are wrong, but some are useful."

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        • #19
          Anyone else think Shanny's starting rumors about the Broncos sending the farm to Detroit for #2 and CJ as a ploy to force the Raiders into staying at #1 and picking CJ? It's a dirty and hilarious move where Oakland would have a great WR set rivaling the late 80's 49'rs teams but no O-line or QB to be able to use them. Brilliant!

          Best move the Raiders could do is move back between 4-6, get more picks and just start pick BPA on offense the rest of the draft.

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          • #20
            The Raiders aren't moving anyway, if the Lions were to move up just the 1 spot it would cost them their 1st and 2nd rounders and they would get Oaklands 1st and 3rd, that is pretty steep for 1 place. If we are looking at Cleveland then the price is 1st and 2nd straight up. For the Bucs it would be something like 1st, 2nd and 2nd next year. It is just too expensive for anyone to move up there unless the Raiders will take a lot less value.

            The Raiders should take Quinn, but they won't. Their offensive line is just a joke, that wouldn't even be a good line in the NFL Europa. But for as much help as they need to block, they need a QB even more. In the AFC you are not making a good playoff run without a solid QB, it is that simple. Russell will throw several good deep balls, but will overthrow his recievers half the time and will throw up stupid picks when he is not busy being confused and mugged by the opposing defensive line. Quinn could actualy get the ball out of there quick enough that he may survive.

            Johnson is by far the best player, but if Andrew Walther is the guy throwing the ball in his general direction he will suck and he will move to another team when he can.

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            • #21
              perfect

              Originally posted by jdhdiggs
              Anyone else think Shanny's starting rumors about the Broncos sending the farm to Detroit for #2 and CJ as a ploy to force the Raiders into staying at #1 and picking CJ? It's a dirty and hilarious move where Oakland would have a great WR set rivaling the late 80's 49'rs teams but no O-line or QB to be able to use them. Brilliant!

              Best move the Raiders could do is move back between 4-6, get more picks and just start pick BPA on offense the rest of the draft.

              I absolutely think Shanahan would do that. We are so guarded in what we do that for this stuff to get out had to be calculated!
              "What I can promise is that...I’m going to play like my hair’s on fire. I’ve found that when you play that way, making plays just happens naturally.”

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              • #22
                Originally posted by CSU_stat
                Say Oakland drafts CJ. Now they have three problems:

                1. Three top-tier receivers, two of whom are not exactly motivated.
                2. No QB to get these three receivers the ball.
                3. No O-Line to protect said QB.

                Probably doesn't need to be said, but: Oakland is in bad shape!
                They can trade away Moss and Porter for their other needs. With their attitudes, they're a sickness to the team. Green Bay and probably a whole bunch of teams would want to have either of them. Maybe they can get an offensive lineman from Green Bay, and maybe even the backup QB Aaron Rodgers, if they don't believe Walters is any good. Some think he needs a line to show what he's got.

                Tampa Bay is hoarding QBs. If Kiffin is really going to go west coast style offense, he can try to get Garcia.

                With Calvin Johnson, they can trade away both their top receivers. They only need a solid #2.

                (edit) Btw, what could the Raiders get draftwise is value for Moss and for Porter? Is Moss or Porter worth a number 2 and 5, or something?
                Last edited by omac; 04-25-2007, 06:18 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by jcdavey
                  take it to the bank, it's going to be CJ (unless al gets his way which seems to always happen)
                  If Al doesn't get his way, whoever in the Raiders organization tries to foil him ends up underneath the end zone at the Coliseum.

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                  • #24
                    The Raiders are also talking about potential contracts with JaMarcus Russell and Calvin Johnson.

                    One of them will be picked by Oakland - It'd better be Russell.
                    The Browns are gone; I'm not a fan of the Impostors

                    The real Browns are in Baltimore, see?

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                    • #25
                      Raiders | Team reaches out to C. Johnson's agent
                      Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:00:57 -0700

                      ESPNews reports the Oakland Raiders have reached out to Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson's agent to talk general numbers on a potential contract. The Raiders currently hold the No. 1 overall selection in the 2007 NFL Draft.


                      Raiders | Team reaches out to Russell's agent
                      Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:00:34 -0700

                      ESPNews reports the Oakland Raiders have reached out to Louisiana State QB JaMarcus Russell's agent to talk general numbers on a potential contract. The Raiders currently hold the No. 1 overall selection in the 2007 NFL Draft.


                      Raiders | Team reaches out to Quinn's agent
                      Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:00:17 -0700

                      ESPNews reports the Oakland Raiders have reached out to Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn's agent to talk general numbers on a potential contract. The Raiders currently hold the No. 1 overall selection in the 2007 NFL Draft.
                      FIrst round draft pick stuff.... they talked to all 3.
                      Club Leader: Robert Griffin III > Andrew Luck

                      ^^^Get used to it.^^^

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GridironChamp
                        FIrst round draft pick stuff.... they talked to all 3.
                        OMG Their signing all three?!?!?!?!?!

                        (just kidding)

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                        • #27
                          I personaly am not sold on the Raiders need for a QB.

                          Walter LOOKED bad but consider the fact that the Raiders line gave up a total of 72 sacks last season.

                          Walter threw only 3 TDs to 13 INTs but realistically he was sacked 1 time ever 6 throws...and that doesn't include the hurries.

                          How can you really get set to make a good throw when you have a defensemen on you just about every pass?

                          A new reciever, RB, QB is NOT going to help that team. They need a LINE.

                          Get a line then see what the kid can do, if he still sucks draft a QB but no QB you get now is going to make a differance.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by NuggetFan
                            I personaly am not sold on the Raiders need for a QB.

                            Walter LOOKED bad but consider the fact that the Raiders line gave up a total of 72 sacks last season.

                            Walter threw only 3 TDs to 13 INTs but realistically he was sacked 1 time ever 6 throws...and that doesn't include the hurries.

                            How can you really get set to make a good throw when you have a defensemen on you just about every pass?

                            A new reciever, RB, QB is NOT going to help that team. They need a LINE.

                            Get a line then see what the kid can do, if he still sucks draft a QB but no QB you get now is going to make a differance.
                            LOL, 72 sacks! Dang, doesn't that o-line have some pride? ... then again, their "star" receivers are prima donnas, so that attitude usually trickles to everyone else. That's why you gotta get rid of those types of players from your team. That's why Shanny has no patience for those types of players.

                            72? Take the holding penalties if you have to, but protect your qb's.

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