We sure do need another DT...

[TXBRONC]

Because you read his initial post (where he says the guy will never be a starter), and you assumed he was "attacking" your position that he was going to be a starter.

When in fact he was just doing exactly what you said, having a discussion where he was adding to what you said by adding the guy will not be a starter in all probabilty.

You are the one that made the discussion into more of a debate

Apparently your mind reading skills need work. I did not assume he was attacking my position. Maybe you ought just sit back and Think before you type it would help so you don't look like an idiot.

[broncsx3]

Where did I say you were attacking my post? I thought we were just having a discussion.

Because you read his initial post (where he says the guy will never be a starter), and you assumed he was "attacking" your position that he was going to be a starter.

When in fact he was just doing exactly what you said, having a discussion where he was adding to what you said by adding the guy will not be a starter in all probabilty.

You are the one that made the discussion into more of a debate

[TXBRONC]

Boy you people can be hyper-sensitive! I wasn't attacking your post. Just pointing out that signing is of another scrub who probably won't make the team.

Hopefully, that will prevent some of the flightier homers on this board from launching into flights of fantasy over how this solves anything. That's all.

I thought we were just having a discussion? I'm not upset and I wasn't trying to be rude.

[Cugel]

I didn't say anything about him being a starter Cugel. The author of the thread he would have liked for us get another DT. I simply pointed that this what Denver did. Whether he amounts to anything or not isn't at issue right now.

Boy you people can be hyper-sensitive! I wasn't attacking your post. Just pointing out that signing is of another scrub who probably won't make the team.

Hopefully, that will prevent some of the flightier homers on this board from launching into flights of fantasy over how this solves anything. That's all.

[Cugel]

Those stats from Football Outsiders makes all the whining about Shanahan not drafting a safety, a linebacker or returner look foolish. It's much easier to draft good players in those categories (and thus get them through free agency from other teams' past drafts) than it is to get quality at DT, OT and DE.

I've been preaching this for years and now somebody notices! :wave:

[Navin Johnson_]

If Atl parts ways with Grady Jackson, I would love to have him come. Big, good, solid 2 down player. Then we can ease in Thomas in the Nickle with McKinley. After that, as has been stated, look for more depth next year.

Our only "proven" starter this year as of now is Warren, and he played so poorly he took a pay cut this year. Plus, coming out of Cleveland he mentioned numerous times that playing a 2-gap scheme is not his strength. Even if he plays solid (a big if), one injury and we have nothing proven behind him.

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[TXBRONC]

Not necessarily, because if Thomas works out and you have Jenkins or Rogers, Warren becomes valuable trade bait next year. The 6th and 7th round picks really don't mean anything because Ted Sundquist has already said that they didn't believe anyone picked in those slots would have made the team anyway. The only thing that would put pressure on the coaching staff to start Thomas is the fact that they gave up next year's 3rd in the deal to get Minnesota's 4th round pick. Considering teams are willing to let QBs picked in the 1st round sit for a year, I think the Broncos could let Thomas come in as a back up for a year, if we had Jenkins or Rogers.

That makes sense, I'm not sure about cost but it makes sense.

[Cutler2007]

New system new guys. We will not know what positions we will need until next year to be honest. Burton may take to Bate's system like a fish to water. Same goes for all the other guys. I do think we have a good mix of guys fighting for playing time that it is not a huge need. We will keep 4 and maybe send Gordon or Burton back to the PS in case of injury.

[KENTUCKY BRONCO]

You Read My Mind!

THATS WHAT IM THINKING! I brought that up on the board the other day!
Everyone told me we adressed that on the 2nd day of the draft! BUT! Im not sold on that! The middle of the D-LINE has been A little weak for the past few years!
I think! anyway!






(GO!BABY!GO! STREET SENSE ! A TRUE KENTUCKY BRONCO! )

[broncolee]

OK, I respect what you're saying but if we brought in Jenkins or Rogers then Shanahan waisted a 4th, 6th, and 7th round pick on a guy who grades out as a first round talent.

Not necessarily, because if Thomas works out and you have Jenkins or Rogers, Warren becomes valuable trade bait next year. The 6th and 7th round picks really don't mean anything because Ted Sundquist has already said that they didn't believe anyone picked in those slots would have made the team anyway. The only thing that would put pressure on the coaching staff to start Thomas is the fact that they gave up next year's 3rd in the deal to get Minnesota's 4th round pick. Considering teams are willing to let QBs picked in the 1st round sit for a year, I think the Broncos could let Thomas come in as a back up for a year, if we had Jenkins or Rogers.

[TXBRONC]

I would bring in Jenkins or Rogers regardless of how good Thomas looks, if the opportunity presents itself. I wouldn't be running up the phone bill trying to make it happen, but if the Lions or the Panthers call, I would listen.

OK, I respect what you're saying but if we brought in Jenkins or Rogers then Shanahan waisted a 4th, 6th, and 7th round pick on a guy who grades out as a first round talent.

[BroncoDefense]

Grady Jackson

If Atl parts ways with Grady Jackson, I would love to have him come. Big, good, solid 2 down player. Then we can ease in Thomas in the Nickle with McKinley. After that, as has been stated, look for more depth next year.

Our only "proven" starter this year as of now is Warren, and he played so poorly he took a pay cut this year. Plus, coming out of Cleveland he mentioned numerous times that playing a 2-gap scheme is not his strength. Even if he plays solid (a big if), one injury and we have nothing proven behind him.

Grady Jackson! Grady Jackson! Grady Jackson! Grady Jackson! Grady Jackson! Grady Jackson! Grady Jackson! Grady Jackson! Grady Jackson!

[broncolee]

With the Drafting of Thomas I don't see the need to bring in someone like Rogers or Jenkins until find out what kind of player he's going to be.

I would bring in Jenkins or Rogers regardless of how good Thomas looks, if the opportunity presents itself. I wouldn't be running up the phone bill trying to make it happen, but if the Lions or the Panthers call, I would listen.

[TXBRONC]

We don't need another DT. Warren and McKinley are the likely starters, unless Thomas turns out to be as good as advertised, in that case he will be the starter over McKinley. If I'm not mistaken, Shanahan mentioned Thomas as a potential starter this season. Shanahan has said that Burton and Gordon have a better chance of contributing this year because of the new system. There are currently 7 DTs on the team(Warren, McKinley, Thomas, Burton, Gordon, Harris, and Veal). Seven DTs is enough to go into training camp. Unless we are going to make a move for someone like Jenkins or Rogers, there's no reason to bring in another DT.

With the Drafting of Thomas I don't see the need to bring in someone like Rogers or Jenkins until find out what kind of player he's going to be.

[broncolee]

We don't need another DT. Warren and McKinley are the likely starters, unless Thomas turns out to be as good as advertised, in that case he will be the starter over McKinley. If I'm not mistaken, Shanahan mentioned Thomas as a potential starter this season. Shanahan has said that Burton and Gordon have a better chance of contributing this year because of the new system. There are currently 7 DTs on the team(Warren, McKinley, Thomas, Burton, Gordon, Harris, and Veal). Seven DTs is enough to go into training camp. Unless we are going to make a move for someone like Jenkins or Rogers, there's no reason to bring in another DT.