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  • Why should anyone take Mel Kiper seriously?

    This guy has always gotten on my nerves, but my disgust for him reached a whole new level during this year's draft coverage. What really set me off was the way he viciously bashed the Dolphins for passing on Brady Quinn. Where the hell does he get off? Isn't this the same football "genius" who in previous drafts was so high on such elite future NFL signal callers like Rick Mirer, Heath Shuler, Trent Dilfer, Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, and Akili Smith? Given the track record he has, he really needs to get down off of that soabox.

  • #2
    He really emphasizes and sings the praises of potential franchise QBs, generally speaking.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by D3N7ER 8r0I\I<
      He really emphasizes and sings the praises of potential franchise QBs, generally speaking.
      I know, and that's all well and good. But the thing is, there are plenty of franchise QBs taken in the later rounds, just as plenty of ist round QBs become busts. It's a very inexact science. There are good reasons Quinn dropped as far as he did. A lot of people are not that high on him, and I agree. I don't expect him to do much of anything in the NFL. My complaint isn't that he really likes Brady Quinn, it's that he bashed teams who don't. Seeing as how Kiper has an abysmal track record of predicting the future successes of QBs, he shouldn't get so high and mighty when teams disagree with him.

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      • #4
        Newsflash:

        No one DOES take Kiper seriously.


        So, I don't understand your question.

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        • #5
          When it comes to defining team needs, placing players to teams, and just being knowledgeable about the draft, and for all he's done to get it on the map - that's why he's respected. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who has been as accurate as Mel Kiper. For the misses he has, he gets a lot of hits. The draft is no exact science, but I respect Mel for all he does and one thing I know, he's a better talent evaluator than me and probably everyone on this board.

          Mad respect for Mel.

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          • #6
            I agree with Dream. Did you all of the sudden wake up this morning and decide to post about Mel, um a month after the draft? Did he steal your newspaper or something?
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            • #7
              He probably has a film projector on the ceiling above his bed. One in front of the toilet and one the dash of his car. I don't see how he does it. As many guys as he evaluates and the film he looks at, i'd be sick to my stomach.

              When he's on t.v., doing his thing, i just sit back and enjoy his enthusiasm and passion for the game. I admire him for that and it gets me pumped up.

              Like a ref at a ball game, he calls it like he sees it.

              I can respect that.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dream
                When it comes to defining team needs, placing players to teams, and just being knowledgeable about the draft, and for all he's done to get it on the map - that's why he's respected. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who has been as accurate as Mel Kiper. For the misses he has, he gets a lot of hits. The draft is no exact science, but I respect Mel for all he does and one thing I know, he's a better talent evaluator than me and probably everyone on this board.

                Mad respect for Mel.
                Agreed. I do not always share his opinions on guys or certain picks, but I always read his articles and always watch when he is on ESPN.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dream
                  You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who has been as accurate as Mel Kiper.
                  'nuff said. For as many "misses" as he's had, nobody has more "hits" than Kiper when it comes to the draft.

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                  • #10
                    kiper is fine, he is good.


                    but i will tell you who is one craxy guy is john clayton. that dude is so funny lookin.
                    he looks like the principal on south park. (who is actually modeld after mr. haas, the science teacher at heritage) but still, he looks funny, not quite hainus sp? like al davis. just wierd with his tiny little funny head and his face and well you get the point.
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                    • #11
                      Here is a pretty good evaluation of Mel Kiper from football outsiders.

                      http://www.footballoutsiders.com/200...fl-draft/5104/

                      You wont find a draft evaluator in the world that will get a large majority of his predictions right, but Mel is actually quite good compared to everyone else.
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                      • #12
                        Kiper gives so much analysis on so many players its too easy to pick and choose instances where he was wrong and say he doesnt know what he's talking about. But honestly, Im not asking Mel to make a prediction as much as I want to know if a draft pick makes sense at the time. Also, its pretty cool that he has been able to carve out a niche doing this.

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                        • #13
                          If Mel Kiper's accuracy was, let's say 75%, he wouldn't waste his time being an NFL analyst when there is more money to be made. There are plenty of gamblers who would pay top dollar for his knowledge, and he could set up shop and take the highest bidder on who is hit and miss. He is fine, but his hair sucks.

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                          • #14
                            What is it with all the "Old news" threads popping up today?


                            Did he kick your dog or something man?

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                            • #15
                              i hate him

                              he contradicts himself too much

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