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  • Hawgdriver
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    Originally posted by Kaylore View Post
    I think to accuse someone of lying to get out of work is inappropriate particularly when we don't know the whole story. And who is chest thumping? I never said anything about pumping myself up.
    I agree with you, Kaylore. I normally don't make arrogations like this. I made a mistake (if that isn't clear enough).

    I mentioned the chest thumping because a few of the posts have strong expressions of ego, including mine (oh, the irony).

    Anyway, I have spent too much time defending what is obviously a worthless position, and one that I never really intended to take, so I want everyone to be clear of my thoughts on Jarvis Moss.

    I think he's a high character guy in the way that counts. Some people think high character just means you go to church and pay your taxes on time. The type of character I see in Moss is that deep down drive that speaks to him, 'never, ever give up in this life.' The only opinion I have expressed before now is that it takes a strong man to come back what he's been through, and still have the drive to be the best. That was right after we drafted him. It's been a joy to hear your (Kaylore) reports on him. I couldn't be happier to hear the things I do about his performance, and read the rookie diary about his attitude. Here's to a speedy recovery.

    Jarvis Moss

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  • Broncnator
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    Moss Injury

    I'll be there suited up Saturday and keeping a close eye on Moss. Hopefully he's just not used to the rigors of an NFL training camp.
    Excited about Dre and Champ in the same backfield.
    LBs should get some picks this year.
    Last edited by Broncnator; 08-09-2007, 02:40 PM.

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  • Kaylore
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    Originally posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    That's tantamount to calling me lame, Kaylore. Do you think that is really necessary?

    I wasn't there. A lifetime athlete who I assumed had witnessed several such injuries gave his opinion to me. He arrived at a novel conclusion. I decided to ask others if this conclusion had merit, because this 'friend' seemed to be a credible source. I think I was pretty clear in expressing that I had doubts that he faked an injury. I used the word "preposterous." It should be clear that I did not imply I felt Moss was faking an injury.

    Do you really think that's lame? Would you prefer that someone does not ask the question, and choose to remain skeptical of Moss; or would you prefer they clear the air, even if only for their own sake? I don't agree with your judgment that what I did was lame, Kaylore. Don't you think you are being a bit disrespectful?

    Why y'all so serious with the light-hearted question? Was the chest-thumping light turned on or something? jeez
    I think to accuse someone of lying to get out of work is inappropriate particularly when we don't know the whole story. And who is chest thumping? I never said anything about pumping myself up.

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  • TXBRONC
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    Originally posted by One_Eyed_Pony View Post
    I guess just the facts and video tapes would solve all the speculations.

    Being a Rookie, #1 draft pick and a trade up to get MOSS... well if I were him, I would be practicing my hardest and playing the best just on Adrenaline and PSYCHY thingy.

    Everyone should be more worried about infections and that hip.

    Peace

    I don't think video tape would help in solving where or not he was faking it.

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  • TXBRONC
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    Originally posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Did anyone else see it happen? I don't doubt he tweaked it, I just wonder if he was hamming it up. This was really just an impression my friend had, not a hard assertion he made.

    Hey, WABronc & Lorcust, you may scoff, but it didn't stop you from piling on! Are you not entertained!?
    I didn't back to this till now so my apologies for not responding sooner. However, yes there were others that were there. Kaylore and SoCal for the past few years have come in here with camp reports because they go regularly.

    Whether or not your friend made a hard assertion or not what does have to go on other than he's seen this before? It still an assertion that tries bring into question the man's character.

    Moss being winded isn't anywhere enough to slam his character like this.

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  • One_Eyed_Pony
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    What's MOSS' Hip status...

    I guess just the facts and video tapes would solve all the speculations.

    Being a Rookie, #1 draft pick and a trade up to get MOSS... well if I were him, I would be practicing my hardest and playing the best just on Adrenaline and PSYCHY thingy.

    Everyone should be more worried about infections and that hip.

    Peace

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  • Hawgdriver
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    Originally posted by HORSEPOWER 56 View Post
    I'm definitely not dogging on you Hawg, but I think that if the guy you talked to thought he was faking it, wouldn't the Broncos coaches and training staff who have extensive experience with injuries and players be able to tell or at least have their suspicions? I can guarantee you that if Shanny had any inkling Moss was faking, he'd be at the bottom of the depth chart faster than you could snap your fingers.
    That's a great point. The more I think about this post, the more I'm really disappointed with myself for not being more critical before I opened my mouth. I'm better than that. But thanks for being gentle...

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  • HORSEPOWER 56
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    I'm definitely not dogging on you Hawg, but I think that if the guy you talked to thought he was faking it, wouldn't the Broncos coaches and training staff who have extensive experience with injuries and players be able to tell or at least have their suspicions? I can guarantee you that if Shanny had any inkling Moss was faking, he'd be at the bottom of the depth chart faster than you could snap your fingers.

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  • stnzed
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    Originally posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Oh, I remember it all too well...

    Now I'm *that* guy...great.


    No....*that* guy had no sense of humor!

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  • Hawgdriver
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    Originally posted by stnzed View Post
    Don't ever lose your sense of humor!

    Btw, in case you didn't see it, that was an actual thread, I didn't make it up....
    Oh, I remember it all too well...

    Now I'm *that* guy...great.

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  • stnzed
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    Originally posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Yeah, I get it...lesson learned.

    My daddy said it could be a cruel, cruel world.

    Don't ever lose your sense of humor!

    Btw, in case you didn't see it, that was an actual thread, I didn't make it up....

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  • Hawgdriver
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    Originally posted by stnzed View Post
    In an unrelated story: Cutler was mean to his cable guy, reports some dude who knows a dude, who knows some cable dude!
    Yeah, I get it...lesson learned.

    My daddy said it could be a cruel, cruel world.

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  • Hawgdriver
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    Originally posted by Kaylore View Post
    I think making a post about someone faking an injury because "some guy thinks he could have faked it" is lame and denigrates Moss' character needlessly.
    That's tantamount to calling me lame, Kaylore. Do you think that is really necessary?

    I wasn't there. A lifetime athlete who I assumed had witnessed several such injuries gave his opinion to me. He arrived at a novel conclusion. I decided to ask others if this conclusion had merit, because this 'friend' seemed to be a credible source. I think I was pretty clear in expressing that I had doubts that he faked an injury. I used the word "preposterous." It should be clear that I did not imply I felt Moss was faking an injury.

    Do you really think that's lame? Would you prefer that someone does not ask the question, and choose to remain skeptical of Moss; or would you prefer they clear the air, even if only for their own sake? I don't agree with your judgment that what I did was lame, Kaylore. Don't you think you are being a bit disrespectful?

    Why y'all so serious with the light-hearted question? Was the chest-thumping light turned on or something? jeez
    Last edited by Hawgdriver; 08-08-2007, 11:41 PM. Reason: some of the i's were not dotted.

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  • stnzed
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    Originally posted by Broncos_Rampage View Post
    Seriously though how does this affect him? Will he be able to play Monday?

    I'm betting he won't play...

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  • Broncos_Rampage
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    Seriously though how does this affect him? Will he be able to play Monday?

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