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  • White Dragon
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    The way you can tell that ALL the darrent jerseys that are being sold right now on eBay are fake is that if you look at the numbers... the outline of the numbers is all thread, when in fact real jerseys are tackle twill sewn on in all colors. Also, the twill fabric used for the numbers is matte and never shiny like that. One last thing to look at is how close the bottom of the 7 is to the bottom of the 2.

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  • BarkdogRX7
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    Originally posted by BIG HOUSE
    theres been fake jerseys as long as theres been ebay so whats the big fuss now?

    Exaaaactly, thread over lol. Who cares, when another player from another team died, SOMEONE was there to exploit it, that's life, now that it's a former Bronco, we're all mad how the world does business, just be smart and don't buy one but if a dude needs to eat, let me sell to stupid overpaying people....nuff said

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  • Jermz79
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    The only thing I'm going to say is ..... those jersey's are 100% fake regardless of what feedback is left and how much feedback that seller has. I buy/sell on ebay all the time and I can tell you right now, I have received items "not as described" but because I don't want to ruin my 100% positive feedback I will not leave a negative for fear of retaliation by seller leaving negative feedback. I'm sure you have heard the old saying, "don't believe everything you read".

    You can argue with me until your blue in the face and want to punch your computer screen but I will tell you right now that EVERY one of those "authentic" Darrent Williams jersey's on ebay are FAKE! period.

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  • Marinecorpsat82
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    Well I have to say that the pictures are not always the best. Even NFL.Com's pictures do not look like an authentic jersey in person. So a picture is not the most reliable way to judge. It comes down to (and this is what I think you are missing) the reputation of the seller. If a seller advertises he is selling an authentic jersey and someone buys it and finds out otherwise or has wanted and looked at authentic jerseys and could not afford them and finds that what he has purchased is not what was represented the seller's reputation is damaged. That is why there is feedback on ebay! If 800 people say the product was as advertised or great transaction what dispute is there that it is what it is? Or that an authentic jersey for auction is just that! If feedback says otherwise then there is doubt.

    Did ebay sellers have 15 DW jerseys laying around no but the local stores didn't either. Why? There was no demand. What is unfortunate is that the local stores went out and got them as did those on ebay but the local stores sell them at the mark up price and therefore make more money on them. So i see no difference if those on ebay are wrong for selling them and "flooding ebay" with them to profit afer DW's death then so is every local retailer that is selling them now and was not before.


    It just seems that ebay sellers are held to a different standard than local retailers and that is not right. Both are profiting off DW's death because the demand is now there. That is evidenced here! There is nothing wrong with a rise in demand, most Bronco fans that want a DW jersey want it to remember him or as a piece of nestalgia and that is fine.

    So before we say that a picture is proof as to the authentcity of an item look deeper before making a judgement. Who knows you may find some great deals.

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  • Jermz79
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    Originally posted by Marinecorpsat82
    You make a couple of assumptions. First that anyone selling anything on ebay is dishonest and secondly that every local retailer is honest.

    I never once said that EVERYONE selling on ebay is a hack, nor did I say that every "local" retailer is honest. I was simply refering to those people selling these so called "authentic" Darrent Williams jersey's.

    You said it yourself, where were these jersey's the weeks, months, year before Darrent died? No where, there simply wasn't enough demand for them, and then all of a sudden a day after his death someone just happens to have had 15 of them laying around right? And even better is still getting them from a manufacture somewhere when not even our Pro Shop has them available. Honestly if you believe they are real then more power to you and go buy one, but I will not because I know they are fakes and why would I want to give my money to someone who is geniunely taking advantage of a bad situation.

    Just compare a real authentic jersey to the pictures of the ones on Ebay right now and you will notice the very striking differences.


    again everything I am stating is based solely on the Darrent Williams jersey's, no other player/team/sport.

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  • Marinecorpsat82
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    You make a couple of assumptions. First that anyone selling anything on ebay is dishonest and secondly that every local retailer is honest.

    The issue is this while there are some that are dishonest on ebay or any other mail order site there are good honest people that do not take advantage of others. While the bad ones do ruin it for the good the reality is again you are lumping everyone into the same group.

    As for the flood of DW jerseys now unfortunately most people wanted Atwater jerseys before. It is the nature of people. And while I thinkk that it is positive because with all of the DW jerseys out there it will remind people of how a fine young man was killed so senselessly.

    But to get mad that people are making money off sales of DW jersey is silly. I will say that those that fake jersey both on ebay and retail stores or those that mark up prices higher because of what it is are losers I even have issues with those on ebay that only sell DW jerseys. But with the markups the NFL store or local retailers are profiting much more off DW than a legit ebay seller.

    How is it that NFL.Com can reduce the price of jersey by 1/3 for a sale and more for players that move to another team? Simple it is a huge markup. Even at $50.00 for a replica jersey NFL.Com still makes at $20.00 on it. you know that they will not sell everything at a loss. I hate to say it but the markup of team jerseys is very high. So that being true isnt NFL.com and the local stores making more off the death of DW than some guy that runs a reputable online store selling authentic jerseys of all kinds for a little above cost? To catogorize everyone that sells on ebay as a hack or dishonest is not a fair generalization. And basically it is plain wrong.

    To me it is obvious research the seller read what others have said about them how long have they been selling. If someone has started selling in 2007 then yes don't buy from them but if someone has been selling online for a couple of years and has plenty of positive feedback about products then what is the deal? Honest people seeling the real deal will have feedback from many buyers stating that. Basically the only difference is you do not pay as much for it. For example: I baught an authentic Larry Walker Jersey in a local store for $195.00 a few years back. My wife baught me for christmas 2 yrs ago an authentic Todd Helton Jersey on ebay for under $50.00 put the 2 side by side and you can tell they are both the same jersey just different sizes and numbers.

    To me it is asinine to pay $200.00+ for a jersey that with some research you can get legitimately for in some cases under $70.00.

    All I am saying is do not be so quick to judge. In fact while ebay has had a run on DW jerseys where were they in the local stores before he died? I looked at alot of stores selling Jerseys before DW died and did not see his. Saw M. Bell, Tatum, Lynch, Bailey, Walker, Smith, Cutler, Plummer. But no DW. Why simply the demand was not there, now it is so are these stores at fault too under the logic that says "those leaches are trying to profit off DW now that he is gone?

    Just something to think about.

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  • Jermz79
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    Originally posted by Marinecorpsat82
    But i am concerned about the level of elitism that i have seen in this.
    The elitism in what, people complaining about another trying to make a buck off the untimely death of a football star? Because I hardly see that as elitism.

    Originally posted by Marinecorpsat82
    I am sorry to say that those of you that are getting upset about people making money off of DW but flock to buy a jersey at the team store are allowing the store to profit off of that sale! It is called capitalism they will not sell it if they wont make money. Something to think about.
    I would rather flock to the team store and give my money into a well established reputable company rather than some hack on Ebay, who will then turn around and use it to screw the next fool born yesterday. The only way to end the flood of hacks like this is to quit supporting them.

    just my 2 pennies!

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  • JWinn
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    Originally posted by Marinecorpsat82
    While the signature series jersey are definitely aan issue. There are some very reputable dealers on ebay. the key is to see how long a person has been selling and what the feedback is.

    I have gotten a few jerseys from ebay dealers at a much lower price than retail and all have been what was advertised including an authentic DW jersey. Mine is identical to what is sold in stores for 200+ dollars! came factory sealed with nfl serial number and tags.

    What should be upsetting to people is that the markup on these jerseys is so high at local team stores.

    I am sorry to say that those of you that are getting upset about people making money off of DW but flock to buy a jersey at the team store are allowing the store to profit off of that sale! It is called capitalism they will not sell it if they wont make money. Something to think about.

    Are some of the DW jerseys on ebay fake? Yes. But there are alot that are very real and inexpensive just be careful who you deal with and remember a picture is not always the best.

    But i am concerned about the level of elitism that i have seen in this.
    Elitism?

    Hey, if you wanna believe your getting a real Reebok made authentic jersey for 50 bucks, go for it..............

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  • Marinecorpsat82
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    While the signature series jersey are definitely aan issue. There are some very reputable dealers on ebay. the key is to see how long a person has been selling and what the feedback is.

    I have gotten a few jerseys from ebay dealers at a much lower price than retail and all have been what was advertised including an authentic DW jersey. Mine is identical to what is sold in stores for 200+ dollars! came factory sealed with nfl serial number and tags.

    What should be upsetting to people is that the markup on these jerseys is so high at local team stores.

    I am sorry to say that those of you that are getting upset about people making money off of DW but flock to buy a jersey at the team store are allowing the store to profit off of that sale! It is called capitalism they will not sell it if they wont make money. Something to think about.

    Are some of the DW jerseys on ebay fake? Yes. But there are alot that are very real and inexpensive just be careful who you deal with and remember a picture is not always the best.

    But i am concerned about the level of elitism that i have seen in this.

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  • BroncsSB#3
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    Originally posted by BroncoNic
    I was thinking the same thing. And what athlete writes out their full name that clear? None I've ever seen.
    Thats the first thing I thought when I read the description. Its just your average basic cursive lettering and its supposed to be his actual signature. These people must be idiots. Either that or they think the people looking at the their auctions are idiots that will actually fall for that crap.

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  • BroncoNic
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    Originally posted by ohyeah
    ......I Love the quote "Mr. Williams signature sewn right into the Numbers" Who knew Darrent had such elegant handwriting?
    I was thinking the same thing. And what athlete writes out their full name that clear? None I've ever seen.

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  • GeneralSterlingPrice
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    Originally posted by broncogurl05
    I can't believe somebody would do something like that just to make a buck. It's just sick.

    Ever since Ebay was created this has been happening. As soon as a celebrity dies or a tragedy occurs. the leeches come out. Remember all the auctions started right after September, 11, 2001? When Dale Earnhardt died they almost had to start a new category with his name on it. The only way to combat this type of auction is to not buy from that seller. Ever.

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  • GeneralSterlingPrice
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    Originally posted by Drunk Bronco
    If these are REAL KOOL,If not not then **** EVIL EBAY...Don't know all the facts tho,what do you guys think?


    http://search.ebay.com/Darrent-Willi...inZtQQsbrsrtZd

    HeH... If those were any more fake, they wouldn't exist. I Love the quote "Mr. Williams signature sewn right into the Numbers" Who knew Darrent had such elegant handwriting?

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  • Drunk Bronco
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    Originally posted by BroncoInMich
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Darrent-Williams...QQcmdZViewItem



    this one looks exactly like the one i got from sportsfan a couple weeks ago that i was going to put on ebay when i got laid off right after that.
    ya that one is kool,Its a real replica even thats better than that FAKE sewn crap atleast its a real NFL product not a bootleg

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  • BroncoInMich
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    http://cgi.ebay.com/Darrent-Williams...QQcmdZViewItem



    this one looks exactly like the one i got from sportsfan a couple weeks ago that i was going to put on ebay when i got laid off right after that.

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