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  • #16
    Originally posted by Denver724
    Another Pro Football Talk exclusive! http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

    CLARETT WANTS TO BE CUT

    As it turns out, T.O. isn't the only guy who might be faking a groin injury.

    A league source tells us that Broncos rookie running back Maurice Clarett's groin injury is, in reality, a response by Clarett to the fact that he was stuck at the bottom of the depth chart at tailback.

    Mo-Clo's reasoning (tortured as it may be) is that he can't earn the incentives in that stoopid no-bonus contract if he isn't getting touches on Sundays, and that he can't get touches on Sundays in September and beyond if he isn't getting reps with the ones in training camp and preseason.

    So his grand plan, per the source, is to cajole the team into cutting him, in the hopes that he'll end up somewhere else . . . as the starter.

    If Clarett were to be released, he'd first pass through waivers, giving every team a crack at picking up the rights to his current contract. So in order to get paid beyond his $230,000 salary, he'd have to get to the top of the depth chart in his new town.

    But that presumes he'll even get out of Denver. As our own Len Lasagna reported on Thursday, the Broncos eventually will put Clarett on injured reserve, squirreling him away for the 2005 season.

    Whether that means Clarett gets a chance to win the starting gig in 2006 remains to be seen. We're hearing that Clarett is even more turdish in camp than the run-of-the-mill Bronco turd-jobs, and our guess is that the team eventually will tire of his routine.

    When they do, of course, they'll be acknowledging that Coach Teflon's propensity for finding diamonds in the dregs of the draft had temporarily gone on hiatus when they handed in the card at the last pick in round three with Clarett's name on it.
    So, is Clarett just blabbing his supposed plan to people? Did he actually tell this "source" that he was faking his injury because he was at the bottom of the depth chart and wanted to get cut?

    Or is this just somebody making up a bunch of crap to keep people reading their columns?

    I have never been a fan of Clarett and was not exactly thrilled when we drafted him. But this story seems unlikely and I really hope the PFW isn't so lame as to be making up stories like this.
    "You can't take the sky from me..."
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    "You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by muse
      "...as our own Len Lasagna reported..."
      Didn't I used to knock this guy out in the old "Punch-Out" video game?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by bigbones1
        As all credible media people do.
        Perhaps, but then they shouldn't have a problem correcting stat goofs either, right? They won't because if they did (in these cases) then their "link lines" would lose their luster, wouldn't make sense, and most importantly, wouldn't be funny!

        Here's more (from their site & dictionany.com) and then I'll drop it...

        "Our Daily Rumor Mill has become a fixture for most (if not all) NFL front offices. Why? Because we bring you some of the best back-room rumors available anywhere...

        We're the first to admit that we don't always adhere to pure journalistic standards. We don't seek reactions from players, coaches, and/or agents before posting controversial stories. However, we'll give anyone who objects to one of our stories an opportunity to respond. And we won't run anything that we know or have reason to know is untrue.


        rumor
        1. A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.
        2. Unverified information received from another; hearsay.
        3. Gossip (usually a mixture of truth and untruth) passed around by word of mouth

        Winter is Coming!

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        • #19
          Rep for MNG.

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          • #20
            Besides, if this were true, it would be basically like Jason White ending his career before it even started.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by bigbones1
              Untrue. When a media outlet prints things you don't like, it doesn't prove that they have a bias against your favorite team.
              You must be misunderstanding me, I am not saying that have a bias because they print things I don't like, I am simply pointing out that PFT is very unprofessional in the way they present things, anything, about the Broncos or someone else, and this is what takes away their credibility.

              The language, phrases, etc. that they use, take away from what could turn into an accurate story. If you read their articles, they reek of informed rants a lot more than they do of responsible journalism. Informed rants are okay on a message board or something, but they shoudn't use them if they are trying to be contributing journalists.

              My point isn't about the Broncos or this Clarett thing at all, my point is that I can't take this story seriously enough because I never know whether to trust PFT because they don't always write in a very professional manner. They can think whatever they want about the Broncos. But they do allow a lot of bias to shape the point they are trying to prove.

              PFT can say whatever they want about the Broncos or any other team, but they should be accurate, to the point, and professional when they do so, if so, then I have no problem with the story.

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              • #22
                Clarett is not all that bad

                Hi,

                I'm new (posted on an earlier thread about Clarett). I suspect the story is false. I think people really have a distorted perception of Clarett. The kid finished HS early to participate in OSU's spring practice (before his "freshman" season), 1st true freshman TB starter in OSU history, ran all over Michigan while nursing a stinger in the shoulder (sign of dedication to the team), and ran down and stripped the ball from Sean Taylor (no less, a future big-time NFL safety) in the championship game. I suspect the groin injury is just that, an injury brought on by getting his body back into football shape. I think his new agent/lawyers have been the most upfront and helpful to him since the entire episode at OSU started. Please, remember OSU is a football factory and is the lifeblood of Columbus. The program had to cover itself and I suspect Shanahan and other NFL executives quitely pursued the details (stuff that ESPN and other media outlets don't have access to)and I suspect Tressel gave Clarett a stellar recommendation on his work ethic. When Clarett arrived and played he electrified the entire town and legions of Buckeye nation....The kid wants to play football, simple as that.

                I just say give the kid a chance and hold off from forming an opinion until after a few preseason games. I doubt the Broncos have already made a decision after a few practices.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by bigbones1
                  The media rarely, if ever, make a stat goof. The stats used by the media are gathered by those who's job it is to gather stats. Stats are officially posted by the NFL. If the media reports a bad stat as gathered by the NFL statistician, is that the media's fault?
                  <sigh>

                  Case in point (just one example)

                  Posted on ProFootballTalk.com on 6/2/05
                  http://www.profootballtalk.com/6-1-05through6-8-05.htm

                  Here’s the original...
                  "WR Jerry Rice wore No. 19 in his first practice with the Broncos, which also is the number of seasons he has played in the NFL (and the number of tantrums he threw last year)."

                  Well, of course, everybody knows (or should know) that Rice has played 20 seasons in the NFL. Did they know this? I’m assuming they did. They could have easily said that he threw 20 tantrums last year (even if he did only throw 19), but they couldn’t say that because WR’s can’t wear #20 in the NFL and their little dig at Rice wouldn’t have made sense (or been as funny).

                  I guess this might be one of those “rare” exceptions, but I highly doubt it. It was more important for them to make a funny than it was to CORRECTLY state that Rice has played 20 seasons in the NFL.

                  If you followed the link then you’ll see that they did change it (unbeknownst to me until now); and probably done so as a result of my email…

                  “WR Jerry Rice wore No. 19 in his first practice with the Broncos, which is one digit less than the number of seasons he has played in the NFL (and five digits less than number of tantrums he threw last year).”

                  Doesn’t have the same ring to it, IMO. They must have also acquired better info (stats, if you will) on the number of tantrums that he threw as well…

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                  • #24
                    "Clarett is even more turdish in camp than the run-of-the-mill Bronco turd-jobs"

                    Tell me, does this sound like professional journalism, or someone who is credible. They use comparisons and phrases like this often.

                    If they are reporting about Clarett, and referring to his contract, it makes no difference that they think it was "stoopid" as they said, exact spelling. It only matters that the contract is affecting and being affected by the situation.

                    They ask on their main page "Want to see if your team is going to suck again?"

                    "If Drew were my agent, I'd be wondering why he's sucking this guy's ass." Quote or not, it's an unprofessional statement to quote directly in this way.


                    "(but we'll acknowledge that we were the ones who started it back in our "maybe if we piss as many people off as possible we'll get noticed" phase) to give us credit for a couple of recent Eagles-related reports. (Editor's note: We'll also acknowledge that the "phase" to which we referred really hasn't completely, you know, ended.)" Another very mature statement.

                    "and rather than outright releasing him with an injury settlement they will put him on IR with the comments like "we look forward to getting him back next year, he has potential, blah, blah" rather than the more accurate "we're fu--in' numbskulls for taking this turd at all." This is another example of unprofessional reporting.

                    Then they go on to refer to Clarett as having an MRI on his junk area. I only have to spend about 5 minutes on the site in stories from the last 24 hours to dig up the fact they are consistently unprofessional and vulgar.

                    They may get a good number of stories right, but they sure don't present themselves well as a trustworthy source.

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                    • #25
                      Why do you waste time talking about PFT? Who cares about them?

                      First of all, I read today that the Broncos might only have 3 RB on the 53 man roster. I can't believe this but it's in the Post today: "With rookie Maurice Clarett home nursing a groin injury in Dove Valley, the primary competition may be between Ron Dayne and Quentin Griffin for the third running back. The loser may get cut."

                      If so, then either Clarett spends the season on the IR or he's cut. Period. Because NO WAY can he become the 3rd back. Right now he's 5th and I would certainly not keep him ahead of both Dayne and Q. Dayne has more experience and has had a better camp and Q is a different style RB.

                      Secondly, it makes perfect sense to Clarett if he senses he isn't going to make the team to be released as soon as possible, so he can hope to get signed by a team that maybe has an injury at RB and have a chance at a starter job or at least #2 back.

                      It's immature to nurse an injury in the hopes of getting cut, but that's Clarett.

                      Third, have you considered that it's even worse if it's totally false? That source had to be some assistant coach or someone on the inside of the Broncos who is reflecting the opinion of Broncos coaches. Clearly Shanahan is unhappy with Clarett and the rumor has been that he hasn't been a hit at camp with his work ethic. What if Clarett is really hurt but the coaches are down on him and think he's just dogging it? That makes the situation even uglier than if he's pouting.
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                      • #26
                        Clarett would never give up his chance with the Broncos.....





                        no wonder this is a "rumor"
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                        • #27
                          The guy who runs that site is a complete moron. I talked to him on AIM and he kept avoiding his stupidity in his articles, always had a come-back.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cugel
                            Why do you waste time talking about PFT? Who cares about them?

                            First of all, I read today that the Broncos might only have 3 RB on the 53 man roster. I can't believe this but it's in the Post today: "With rookie Maurice Clarett home nursing a groin injury in Dove Valley, the primary competition may be between Ron Dayne and Quentin Griffin for the third running back. The loser may get cut."
                            Interesting. I just can't see us only keeping 3 RB's on the final roster. I suppose it's possible, but has Shanny ever done that before?

                            Looking at that quote another way could lead one to believe that Clarett will make the roster for all the oft-stated reasons (potential, price, won't waste a 3rd rounder pick, won't admit to wasting a 3rd round pick, won't clear waivers for the PS, etc., etc.) and, as the article states, the competition for the 3rd RB will decide who gets cut. Klis never mentions anything about Clarett getting cut or the Broncos only keeping 3 RB's. The implication, here and elsewhere, is that if he makes the team he'll be the last RB on the list no matter how many we keep.

                            It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. The IR scenario seems possible, but so does the situation where Clarett wants out. I'm clueless, really....

                            BTW - slap me up side the head the next time I get sucked in to arguing the merits of some publication. You're right; it really is a waste of time.
                            Winter is Coming!

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                            • #29
                              Thats a fake, rumor filled website. Clarrett would NEVER do this. Trust me.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RoorRipper
                                Thats a fake, rumor filled website. Clarrett would NEVER do this. Trust me.
                                I don't trust you. Have you met him? Do you know him personally? Pro Football Talk, despite their bias, is a very accurate site. I wouldn't say it's 100% true, but I believe it.
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