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  • myoung
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    The biggest problem with this rumor is not ability of D Jack and Burleson. A bunch of you have spent time trying to determine whether D Jack is a number 1.

    the problem is that he is paid like a number 1 and Burleson also has a huge contract. There is no way they can afford another big money WR. Javon be a horrible financial investment. Or he would be further proof that they wasted a ton of money on Burleson (worst signing of the off season; they paid that much and gave up a third round pick. Revenge is a bitter pill to swallow).

    D Jack and Nate will be the starters, Engram and Hackett will play. There is no way they bring in Javon, pay him and then have a big money WR as the third guy. They have paid others too much to seriously consider this.

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  • Cugel
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    Originally posted by NeedDLinemen
    Whether Kiper stated this or not the whole idea is totally ludicrous. For starters Seattle dont need another receiver, they do need a guard however. Not to mention the fact if you do a bit of research on the Green Bay forums you may come accross some major posters who know for a fact that the highest offer Green Bay have had so far was a 4th rounder and that was from our beloved Mike and Ted. And by the way the Packers havent closed the door after baulking at the initial offer.
    I agree with this.

    I would be amazed if Seattle is this stupid! First of all NOBODY knows whether Javon will ever be the same WR after his injury.

    Now, everybody is saying "he's completely healed." That and a couple of bucks will get you a cappuchino at Starbucks! Until he proves it on a football field and then proves that he can hold up for the entire season and perform at the same level he did in 2004, it's all a risk.

    To give up a 2nd round pick (the end of the 2nd round) is bad enough a risk, but I could see it IF Seattle needed a WR. But, WR was NOT the reason they didn't win the SB! The need a guard. They could use some guys in the defensive secondary (although they are solid, they could be improved here). Etc.

    But, WR seems to be a position of strength. At #31 they could pick up a good OL or safety or LB or. . . lots of things! Why give up that chance?

    (BTW: on the boards, all the Packers fans are loving this! They think they're stealing Seattle blind:

    Here's an example: "As a Packer fan, as much as I would love to see Javon's career rot and plummet by sitting this year out and lose his chance at ever signing a big contract in his life, I would LOVE this trade because we would be totally ripping Seattle a new one."

    I have to agree! They would!

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  • NeedDLinemen
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    Whether Kiper stated this or not the whole idea is totally ludicrous. For starters Seattle dont need another receiver, they do need a guard however. Not to mention the fact if you do a bit of research on the Green Bay forums you may come accross some major posters who know for a fact that the highest offer Green Bay have had so far was a 4th rounder and that was from our beloved Mike and Ted. And by the way the Packers havent closed the door after baulking at the initial offer.

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  • WABronco
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    Originally posted by Champ.24
    Man Burelson isnt getting enough respect here. They would not bring in Burleson (a restricted free agent if i'm correct) and then bring in javon. Okay, Nate didnt have the best of seasons when he was expected to take over the reigns of randy moss @ the vikings but i believe he will be a great reciever this year. no need for walker, send him to us GB!
    It's not like Burleson would be the 4th receiver...

    Engram would probably be the one out of the loop...

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  • Champ.24
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    Man Burelson isnt getting enough respect here. They would not bring in Burleson (a restricted free agent if i'm correct) and then bring in javon. Okay, Nate didnt have the best of seasons when he was expected to take over the reigns of randy moss @ the vikings but i believe he will be a great reciever this year. no need for walker, send him to us GB!

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  • DenverFanInGB
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    Originally posted by EddieMac
    I jusr read on Fanball.com that Denver is tagetting Walker and the competition is the 49ers and Eagles (spit, yuk). It also says that Green Bay insists that Walker will be held to honor the last year of his contract. This is good new 'cause it sounds like Green Bay is posturing to build up the trade. The down side is the Eagels have tons 'O cash to spend and a need at WR....again. They can screw us in the draft at the 14th pick and here too. I know nothing about the niners situation with cap space but they need a WR worse that Denver or Philly. Walker could be a Bronco ( although I still like Moulds better.....but I'll get over that eventually)
    I believe that San Francisco is sitting at $15 million under the cap, so they have room to spend some more dough.

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  • EddieMac
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    Walker

    I jusr read on Fanball.com that Denver is tagetting Walker and the competition is the 49ers and Eagles (spit, yuk). It also says that Green Bay insists that Walker will be held to honor the last year of his contract. This is good new 'cause it sounds like Green Bay is posturing to build up the trade. The down side is the Eagels have tons 'O cash to spend and a need at WR....again. They can screw us in the draft at the 14th pick and here too. I know nothing about the niners situation with cap space but they need a WR worse that Denver or Philly. Walker could be a Bronco ( although I still like Moulds better.....but I'll get over that eventually)

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  • WABronco
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    A second discussion...

    http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/for...ic.php?t=19451

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  • jcrobins
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    Originally posted by jletourneau
    Take this for what it's worth, cause I don't have a link as of yet, but I read elsewhere that ESPN was just reporting that their are ongoing trade discussions right now between Green Bay and Seattle about a trade that would send Javon Walker to the Seahawks in exchange for the 31st pick in the draft.

    We've talked about Javon to the Broncos as a possibility for awhile now, but looks like he's headed elsewhere.
    If seattle is really willing to pay GB a number 1 for a wr that had one very good year(but not great), and tore his acl in the first game last year, then so be it. If they want him that bad, let them have him.

    This guy has had one year that seperates him from Lelie, otherwise I am having a hard time justifying all the excitement. I would be willing to gamble a 3rd (we don't have one) or one of our fourth's (preferable) on him, but anything more than that is too risky considering a torn acl.

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  • ReleaseTheBeast7
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    Originally posted by IRISHIDIOT
    Geez...and I thought he was cut when he checked into a alcohol treatment program....signed with the Vikings and made the pro-bowl as an NFC kick returner....and then resigned with the Vikings on a long term deal....how stupid was I
    See post #9

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  • jletourneau
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    Originally posted by WABronco
    WTF!?!!?!?!?!?

    Dis is cerrazyyy...

    They must be running three receivers as their base offense, haa.

    Seattle's been in the market for a deep threat at receiver for almost 3 years now, if not longer. From that perspective, it makes sense.

    However, as has been pointed out many times already, Seattle has D Jack, Burleson, and Bobby Engram. They've also got DJ Hackett...nothing special yet, but solid.

    I can only guess that maybe this means the end of Bobby Engram in Seattle, which would be a very sad thing.

    I'll go check out the Seattle boards for anything...

    BTW, I trust Jlet's word...
    Thanks for trusting me, but remember this is something that someone else saw on ESPN as a brief report, I'm just playing messenger. It doesn't seem to make the greatest sense, but then again, neither do a lot of things at this time of year usually, and some of them still happen.

    You're right in your other post that they didn't have the dropsies last year, but they aren't the most dynamic group either so the only thing I can think of as reasoning behind this is that they want a true #1.

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  • IRISHIDIOT
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    Koren Robinson Huh?

    Originally posted by ReleaseTheBeast7
    It's not true.

    They already have Bobby Engram, Darrell Jackson, and Koren Robinson... Now they give up their FIRST round pick for another receiver?

    Like I said, it's false
    Geez...and I thought he was cut when he checked into a alcohol treatment program....signed with the Vikings and made the pro-bowl as an NFC kick returner....and then resigned with the Vikings on a long term deal....how stupid was I

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  • cinnamunmun
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    Originally posted by WABronco
    Not last year, they were anything but the dropsies.

    D Jack's a legit no. 1 now...in that offense he's perfect. I stand by my claim that he would've had a better year than Steve Smith and Marvin Harrison had he stayed healthy.
    I agree that D Jack is a good #1 (I even have his jersey), but I'm not sure about beating Steve Smith & Harrison #s yet as his offense is more balanced than Indy's or Carolina's.

    Imagine if Walker DID go to Seattle: Jackson, Walker, Burleson, and Engram . All with a capable Hasselbeck and Shaun Alexander!!!!

    I'm just glad they are not in our division anymore...

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  • The|Snake#16
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    I cannot believe this is true, and until I get a link I can hardly consider this as much as us trading a 1st for a CB.(we're stacked)

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  • WABronco
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    Originally posted by jletourneau
    Actually, they do not have Koren Robinson, he plays for the Vikings. But they did sign Nate Burleson. However, of the guys they have they do not have a true #1 type of guy, as both Jackson and Engram have consistently proven to have the dropsies.

    I don't think it makes all that much sense either, but more random transactions have certainly taken place. Walker is better than most who Seattle might get with that pick, and Ted Thompson does still have good relationships in Seattle so there is reason to think they could be having discussions.
    Not last year, they were anything but the dropsies.

    D Jack's a legit no. 1 now...in that offense he's perfect. I stand by my claim that he would've had a better year than Steve Smith and Marvin Harrison had he stayed healthy.

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