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  • Wikked Ink
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    Don't care about Henry, he is a jerk and a joke!

    But between Stewart and Mendenhall, I have to go with Mendenhall! Damn that boy is a beast, I am a huge Pac-10 fan and I saw Stewart several times and I only saw Mendenhall on T.V. and when I went to the Rose Bowl. And he is in my mind the best running back in the draft and that includes over Mr. McFadden too, homeboy reminds me of Thomlinson, he will be the best of all the backs in the draft. Since we can't get Ellis we should take Mendenhall, he is a better choice then Stewart, Jackson, Rivers or Baker, the only player I would take over him is Ellis. Plus I hope we draft DeCoud in the 2nd Rnd, he will be a solid safety for D-town.

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  • JoRo
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    Originally posted by lancane View Post
    If he really wants to stay and prove he belongs here? Think about it this way, say he takes a paycut, we draft Mendenhall or Jones, then we impliment a two back scheme, he would still get carries basically as the number two back, but he would be asked to block a little more...is that really that bad? Sorry, but no team is going to give him more then a basic contract right now...and I think he would be a good fullback honestly...that is my opinion though!


    Physically I think he could do it.

    I doubt he would go for that though, even in a "two back" system.

    I think when it all comes down to it if we try and move him to fullback he is going to tell Shanny get me outta here. He may not get much for money elsewhere but as a halfback elsewhere he would have a chance to earn some of his money back... as a fullback for us it aint gonna happen

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  • lancane
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    Originally posted by JoRo View Post
    You completely lost me after moving Henry to fullback. You really think a guy who is used to being a ball carrier and has been to this point.. a guy that could get cut and find SOME team and at worst be their number 2 back... is going to be happy BLOCKING for the rest of his career?


    Doubt it.
    If he really wants to stay and prove he belongs here? Think about it this way, say he takes a paycut, we draft Mendenhall or Jones, then we impliment a two back scheme, he would still get carries basically as the number two back, but he would be asked to block a little more...is that really that bad? Sorry, but no team is going to give him more then a basic contract right now...and I think he would be a good fullback honestly...that is my opinion though!

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  • JoRo
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    Originally posted by lancane View Post
    So is health...something both Young and Henry have issues with!
    Well even with his health Lanc he managed to play 15 games... may not have always been alot... but he did. (Young that is)


    I do think if we draft a back they are still gonna be giving Young carries, and I don't think it will be cuz we want to trade him off. NOW if someone offers us something or Young does something to Alienate us to him (as Bell did) then he will be gone... but I think as a backup Young brings alot to the table and would be a good way to give whoever the starter happens to be (Henry or whoever) a blow.

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  • JoRo
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    Originally posted by BroncoKazuki View Post
    MUG i have to disagree with you on the Young part. I see Young going the same route as Bell. We play him get others to look at him then trade him off for a draft pick in the 2009 draft that will position us for a Great Defensive Player in the 2009 draft.

    Also what Shanahan says will be a fade at best to make people look the other way. I mean he promoted Plummer in the end of the 2005 season but look who he drafted in the 2006 draft. You guessed it Jay Cutler. So he's pulling the same crap. Force people to think a certain way and juke them out come draft day. Witch leads me to why others see us drafting an OT or DT in these Mock Draft. Its because they see those as our needs.

    I see either Stewart or Mendenhall being the long term workhorse with Hall as backup.

    for the RB corps depth wise

    Stewart or Mendenhall -S.Young - Backup A.Hall 2nd backup M.Bell
    J.Hester(FB) - C.Sapp

    Maybe T.Henry as a FB if we can convert and make him restructure I can see us making Henry a pure FB and not Draft J.Hester (I doubt we'll be able to get Schmitt)

    Then 2009 draft
    Trade S.Yong to X team for their X pick in the 2009 draft

    Depth Chart heading into 2009

    Stewart or Mendenhall - Backups A.Hall and M.Bell

    FB. T.Henry- C.Sapp

    You completely lost me after moving Henry to fullback. You really think a guy who is used to being a ball carrier and has been to this point.. a guy that could get cut and find SOME team and at worst be their number 2 back... is going to be happy BLOCKING for the rest of his career?


    Doubt it.

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  • ging
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    I like mendenhall better. I love how he lets his blockers set up and hits the hole hard. He has great vision. He is a great combination of speed and strength, he always falls foward and he is strong enough to get the hard yards. He has enough speed to take it to the house. Reminds me a bit of portis, without the crazy costumes and attitude.

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  • AC1
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    Between the two, I'm leaning towards Mendenhall because of Stewart's injury concerns. Both sound like good prospects though.

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  • lancane
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    Originally posted by elevation INC View Post
    i wouldnt be upset if we got either but i dont think the team goes in that direction. if we get a back it will be after the 1st and choice is the best in the late rds. he ran over all over people at the senior bowl, and was by far the best back there. I actually like his size. and his 1 cut ability is great which is what our run game is all about.


    again dont get me wrong, mendehall and stewart our beasts, but i think choice can also handle a hevay workload especially if he ends up sharing a few carries with selvin
    Choice is moving up and currently is graded as a 2nd - 3rd round pick, how is that different when defensive quality is better in the 2nd round? Take the halfback in the first, then get a defensive playmaker in the 2nd round...that at least makes sense! Hell, Forte will likely go in the 3rd now, what will be available at this time is risky fodder...might as well not draft a halfback and just sign free agent scraps once again!

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  • elevation INC
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    Originally posted by Broncosinindy View Post
    Choice is a Decent pick but i would rather spend it on a bruiser like mendenhall or stewart. then on choice. we got a speed back in selvin young. i see choice much like selvin not being able to carry the full load at the pro leval




    i wouldnt be upset if we got either but i dont think the team goes in that direction. if we get a back it will be after the 1st and choice is the best in the late rds. he ran over all over people at the senior bowl, and was by far the best back there. I actually like his size. and his 1 cut ability is great which is what our run game is all about.


    again dont get me wrong, mendehall and stewart our beasts, but i think choice can also handle a hevay workload especially if he ends up sharing a few carries with selvin

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  • Broncosinindy
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    Originally posted by elevation INC View Post
    neither we could still get a great back through the 2nd and 3rd rds. use the first on DT, or OL and get tashard choice from Georgia tech in the 2nd. its cheaper in the end
    Choice is a Decent pick but i would rather spend it on a bruiser like mendenhall or stewart. then on choice. we got a speed back in selvin young. i see choice much like selvin not being able to carry the full load at the pro leval

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  • The|Snake#16
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    Living in Oregon, I've seen most games that he's played in the past two years. It really depends on what direction we wanted to go with RB. Mendenhall may be able to carry the load, he is quicker, jukes better, and breaks more ankles that Jonathan. However, Stewart runs people over, smacks people in the mouth, and out-muscles a lot of defenders. I'm not saying Mendenhall didn't do that either, but Stewart is definently more powerful.

    Personally? I'd take Mendenhall. Why? Stewart is a workhorse and whoever takes him will treat him as such, he's the kind of back that will be good at wearing down defenses by pounding the rock but he'll gain milage easy. There are rare players like LaDanian Tomlinson who are the full package, and they can take the ball every snap if you asked them. Don't bank on it with just any RB though, i'd say taking a home-run hitter with ankle-breaking cuts and solid power would be a better fit. Plus with a stable of fresh legs behind him, Mendenhall doesn't need to be taking more than 20 carries a game.

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  • lancane
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    Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan View Post
    Don't overlook Young's pass catching ability either. He has a little bit of Reggie Bush in him, so he gives us the flexibility of splitting a RB out wide and sending him on a GO route.

    Flexibility is a valuable thing.
    So is health...something both Young and Henry have issues with!

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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Don't overlook Young's pass catching ability either. He has a little bit of Reggie Bush in him, so he gives us the flexibility of splitting a RB out wide and sending him on a GO route.

    Flexibility is a valuable thing.

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  • silkamilkamonic
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    Originally posted by kthxbai View Post
    It was after the KC game where he started playing in a bigger role. He was still getting injured though, but he's definitely not a "gamebreaker" as you stated before. He's not as durable as you think, that's why shanny said what he said. So don't call him tough just because he averages 5 yards per carry.
    Right. He was basically starting because Henry was injured.

    Like I said, if he can "play his role", which is a backup role, he's incredibly effective.

    Every team in the NFL would love to have a backup RB that can come in and average over 5 yards a carry.

    Also, Young finished tied for 7th in the NFL with runs of 20+ yards. And on the list of 20+ runs, he had the least number of carries of any RB ranked in the top 15.

    "Game Breaker" was a bad choice of words. "Explosive" is more like it.
    Last edited by silkamilkamonic; 01-28-2008, 09:46 PM.

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  • denver30
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    Originally posted by kthxbai View Post
    Yes he played in 15 games but he didn't take a major role in most of them. It was after the KC game where he started playing in a bigger role. He was still getting injured though, but he's definitely not a "gamebreaker" as you stated before. He's not as durable as you think, that's why shanny said what he said. So don't call him tough just because he averages 5 yards per carry.

    Even though he isn't a game-breaker or that "tough" he is a good compliment back who can come in and run or catch a pass on third down and make people miss. With him and Stewart Denver would announce its re-arrival in the elite ranks of running games.

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