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  • #46
    Originally posted by elevation INC
    he aint the flavor of the day to me now....he would help our offense quite a bit.
    I agree with the second part, disagree with the first part.

    I enjoy your post, elevation, but how many different 1st round options have you had?......

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    • #47
      What about Limas Sweed in the first if we take a WR?

      Id rather have Albert though

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      • #48
        Originally posted by stnzed
        I agree with the second part, disagree with the first part.

        I enjoy your post, elevation, but how many different 1st round options have you had?......



        okay okay i like doing mocks and i also like throwing different scenarios out there. I like hardy and think he would help us out quite a bit, but i would also go for Brandon albert who i put in a mock a little while back.


        i have had 5 first rd options


        Chris Williams
        Ryan Clady
        Brandon Albert if we trade back
        Sam Baker if we trade back
        and now James Hardy




        i feel williams isnt actually the answer at tackle and would prefer kirk barton later on. Ryan clady will be gone, baker would have this board in a fit, as well as albert, so that leaves me james hardy cause i dont want djax
        Last edited by elevation INC; 03-18-2008, 03:09 AM.

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        • #49
          Update

          i'm curious had i put brandon albert instead of hardy would it have been a better Mock? cause i already tried and people were against it. i see nothing wrong with drafting brandon albert if we trade down our 12th pick. but hardy could be just as good an investment. people fail to realize how much hardy would help our red-zone offense with a powerful 6-6 frame and tremendous leaping ability, coupled with his ability to catch the ball.....shoot how many corners you really think are going to get the same height on a fade to the endzone???? not even champ could contain a guy like this constantly. and i highly doubt that it would be a money issue after studying marshall's contract. especially if we took him around 18. heck we would have an incredible WR tandem for years that cutler could work with. couple that with stokely and colbert we would have a formiadble reciver corps with depth.

          but if you want OL in the first......


          1. OG Brandon Albert
          2. DT Dre Moore
          2. DT Anthyba rubin
          3. WR Andre Caldwell/Will Franklin
          4a OL Kirk Barton
          4b OLB wesely woodyard
          5a. S dominique barber
          5b. FB brandon Mcanderson
          6. CB Isaiah Garnder
          7a. P mike drago
          7b. K connor barth


          i would be stoked with a draft like this as well especially since caldwell and franklin can be a viable #2 option and retuner as well.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by elevation INC
            1. WR James Hardy-

            7b. K connor barth
            Hardy: NOOOOOO. He is just like Marshall...Our Offense needs versatility. A better second receiver would be Devin Thomas in the late first.

            Barth: HELLL YESSS. This kid can flat out boot. And he is a Tar Heel!!!
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            • #51
              Originally posted by elevation INC
              i'm curious had i put brandon albert instead of hardy would it have been a better Mock?
              Yes, but with Eddie Royal instead of Caldwell.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Bronkster
                Hardy: NOOOOOO. He is just like Marshall...Our Offense needs versatility. A better second receiver would be Devin Thomas in the late first.

                Barth: HELLL YESSS. This kid can flat out boot. And he is a Tar Heel!!!


                exactly hardy is just like marshall except taller and slightly faster. teams had a heck of a time covering marshall, imagine if there was 2 of him....ie hardy he would be a better fit than a guy like royal. also get it out of your head samll recivers dont make it in the nfl as #1 or 2 wideouts.....so caldwell is just as fast as royal and is bigger and stronger.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Bronkster
                  Yes, but with Eddie Royal instead of Caldwell.


                  eddie royal will be nothing more than a 3rd or 4th wideout and good returner.....seedante hall for an example.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by BF_forever
                    What about Limas Sweed in the first if we take a WR?

                    Id rather have Albert though


                    i like both sweed and albert, and with meyers being traded, hamilton will most likely move to center if nalen retires so drafting albert makes alot of sense.


                    thats why i wouldnt be upset if we took in the 1st..... ryan clady, james hardy, limas sweed, or brandon albert

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                    • #55
                      Limas Sweed still hasn't recovered from his wrist injury, and it has been a while since he suffered it and from what I read it has lingere since b4 the senior season....

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by elevation INC
                        DISCLAIMER: i hereby certify that this is my final mock before the draft if i post another mock before that time i will write whatever you guys want in my sig clamining i am a lying blubbering fool


                        So without further ado......


                        we will trade fox for a 3rd rd pick i wont list a team becasue its hard to tell, but there are quite a few teams that may miss out on some much needed secondary help in the second so giving up a 3rd for a guy with starter expirience and youth is not unlikely. now is the time to get something for him before he tests FA waters.



                        We also will trade down our 12th pick. Clady will be gone and williams may actually not be the best for us, he is a great lineman and some weights could help his upper body strength. stewart will aslo be gone and while mendehall could be a target chicago, and detroit could be very willing to trade up, even battling with each other. possible trade down partners could be philadelphia, Minnesota, Washington, Detroit and chicago. now people will say we wont trade our pick so be it but there are some very good offensive guys in picks 15-22 so dont be suprised.......


                        Now for my draft, that may shock or excite you.........



                        1. WR James Hardy- This guy combined with Marshall would create some of the best mismatches in the league. people already have problems defending marshall, so imagine a guy slightly taller and just as powerful....our redzone pass game would greatly improve with the height of this guy. But wait he can stretch the field as well with a 4.47 40 at his size, he could roll over safties and corners just as marshall does. he has very good hands and had a very good offseason. He also could be an answer when marshall gets double teams next year. take away marshall and guess what we have the same type of guy on the other side, this leaves stokley wide open down the seams with scheff. Cutler would benfit greatly. First rd recivers are risk but this guy should blossom. especially with a qb like cutler. and i'm sure i will have plenty of posters saying this is stupid i want bennet in the second instead.....well why do that when there are good DT's to be had in the second and not in the 1st?



                        alternate pick: OG BRANDON ALBERT






                        2. DT Dre Moore- the guy excels against the run but is very good at holding the line while getting to the qb. he would be a good rookie and should improve our DT roation right away. had a very good offseason and is well worth the pick. with laws and simms off the board this seems like the perfect guy to work into slowiks scheme opposite thomas and mckinely.


                        2. DT ahyba Rubin- this guy is a reach currently at this pick but come draft day this wont be the case he is a very good run stopper and can plug the gaps, as well as being able top draw some double teams. again 2 DT's makes alot of sense in this draft especially when they have talent like these guys.



                        3. OL John greco- this guy is very versatile and can play inside and out, very good speed for his size, as well as good power up top. very good depth for our tackle and guard positions, especially when kuper is back-up. hamilton and holland should suit just fine at guard but if one of them gets injured i would like some depth, not to mention grooming this guy to take hamiltons spot could pay-off in the long run after hamilton slides to center or retires.



                        Alternate Pick: WR Andre Caldwell




                        4a. OL Kirk Barton- killer off-season, would proivide very good depth at OL as well as a good back-up for RT or LT. Has good upper power and can hold blocks well, good in both pass and run blocking.


                        4b. OLB wesely woodyard- while he may be small for olb, the chances DJ walks next year in FA are likely. Grooming this guy for that spot would help alot. he can blitz, and cover well, and is a very aggresive hitter and tackler. He has the tangibles to become a big defensive leader. Not to mention we need special teams help and this guy could give us a kieth burns like talent on special teams


                        5a. FB brandon mcanderson- Blocked for a guy that ran for 800 plus yds and scored 7 td's as well as blocked for a QB that had all the time in the world to throw kansas to a good bowl. oh wait what did he do that peyton hills, jacob hester, and owen schmitt couldnt? he scored 16 td's on 1000 yds rushing as a power FB. he can block quite well, and even has the ability to catch out of the backfield. oh yeah i cant begin to express how much his power could help our redzone rushing when henry is hurt and selvin is dancing!


                        5b. S dominique barber- good upside and very good agains the run. could fit well in our scheme as a strong safety as he is an aggresive hitter and tackler. he also brings character and work ethic and has the possibilty of becoming a very good defensive leader as well. guys like this may not start right away but they bring work ethich to a team that really needs it.



                        7a. Mike Drago- we need a punter and this guy fared pretty well for his last team, strong and accurate leg


                        7b. K connor barth- the guy was very efficient from 40 yds plus last year



                        now i missed RB,TE and DE but i think we will survive





                        this is what i advocate and think we don from here on out!!!!!


                        what about devin thomas for our wr insted....hes got 4.4 speed and great size and he doesnt go down from the 1st hit like marshall!

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Broncoballa2684
                          what about devin thomas for our wr insted....hes got 4.4 speed and great size and he doesnt go down from the 1st hit like marshall!


                          marshall rarely goes down from the 1st hit, u must not have been watching games....


                          devin thomas has the ability but he lacked production. i also feel he is a product of the media and his workout numbers and feel that the 1st rd is off for him....thats just me though

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by BroncosTX77
                            Limas Sweed still hasn't recovered from his wrist injury, and it has been a while since he suffered it and from what I read it has lingere since b4 the senior season....


                            very true, and thats why he aint in my mock, but i still wouldnt be that upset if we got him just as long as his wrist injury doenst turn him into darius watts...poor fellow

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