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who would you want? Granted, I know it's not the most popular option, but Denver might be forced to go in this direction if the top OT's they like are gone and trade talks to either move up or down never materialize or fall through. The 2 elite DT's likely won't be there either, so addressing arguably our 3rd biggest need, a legit #2 WR, might be in order. There could be some good value available with the likes of Kelly, Sweed, Thomas, Jackson, and others, and they're all quite different. What's your flavor?
James Hardy FTW. But we sure as hell better not take him at 12. The guy is a monster though. At 6'5" him and Marshall would create one amazing tandem at WR, especially in the redzone. We could probably trade back to the late 20's to get him, he might even be there in the early 2nd. But yeah I say we trade back and pick up Hardy while also getting more picks. We could get some good value out of it by getting at least one 2nd and maybe even a few 3rds, which would definitely help.
Oh and DeSean Jackson is a sissy. He'll be thrown around like a rag doll in today's NFL.
If I had my choice at 12 and all of them where there, I would take Kelly. If Kelly was gone, I would take Sweed. Noone else in this draft has the potential that these two have. Both have good size and speed. Both make great catches.
As for Jackson. I don't see the value. He is only being rated so high because of the Hester affect. Since Hester is the best returner that there has been, I don't get why people think another is comming out right after him. It is definatly not worth a #12 IMO. The other poeple on the list are not even close to being worth a #12 and that is all i have to say for why I didn't pick them.
If I had my choice at 12 and all of them where there, I would take Kelly. If Kelly was gone, I would take Sweed. Noone else in this draft has the potential that these two have. Both have good size and speed. Both make great catches.
He's decently fast for a guy his size but the problem I have with him is he doesn't separate well. He's tall and a good leaper though so he can make those tough catches with a defender breathing down his back, as he did often. He also has outstanding body control which allows him to adjust to difficult passes and make the catch. He's not my favorite of the bunch, but I wouldn't be opposed to him either.
Didn't he just run a 4.46 at the combine? I will show you how many people run 4.46 and I will guarantee you will see some fast deep threats when you see the list.
I watched him play and he outran some fast defenders. He outjumped defenders. He made some very good catches. I think you are just basing this on 40 time and I don't think you have a good idea of what is fast. To much talk about 4.3's in todays football. You might have seen this posted in another thread that was in this section.
4.3’s: 3/18 or 17%
Javon Walker; 1st Round, 2002; 4.38
Lee Evans; 1st Round, 2004; 4.39
Matt Jones; 1st Round, 2005; 4.37
4.4’s: 6/46 or 13%
Deion Branch; 2nd Round, 2002; 4.47
Andre Johnson; 1st Round, 2003; 4.40
Roy Williams; 1st Round, 2004; 4.48
Reggie Brown; 2nd Round, 2005; 4.45
Mark Clayton; 1st Round, 2005; 4.41
Greg Jennings; 2nd Round, 2006; 4.42
Draft information, rankings, scouting reports, and more
I see people there that run 4.45-4.5 that are deep threats in the league. In fact, if you go look at 40 times, 4.5 and below is VERY fast. Just look at the players that run in that time range. Again, to much hype of 4.3's. I watched both Kelly and Sweed play. Neither had a problem outrunning people.
Also, another part that makes it a good speed is their size. A defender has to run a lot faster than them in order to keep up with the route AND get position because Sweed and Kelly will both outjump you. I think this is the biggest fact that people are overlooking, or fans I should say. When you have that kind of size, you don't have to run 4.25 to be fast. A defender only has to run as fast as a short receiver to keep up and get position. They have to run far faster to keep position on a tall guy. Both of these guys could be deep threats in this offense.
The best evidence of all of this would be Burleson and Colston. Both have made a living at being deep threats.
I should also say that receiver isn't my first choice in the draft. I still wouldn't mind taking Kelly or Sweed in the first since #12 should be a place to get a playmaker and not just an average guy.
My first choice right now would be tackle with what looks to be there at 12.
Sweed could actually give Cutler an endzone target.
Our red-zone offense was pathetic last year, and if we cant help our RB's punch it in by drafting some lineman, we may as well give Cutler a big tall strong guy to jump above everyone and bring it down.
Sweed could actually give Cutler an endzone target.
Our red-zone offense was pathetic last year, and if we cant help our RB's punch it in by drafting some lineman, we may as well give Cutler a big tall strong guy to jump above everyone and bring it down.
You mean like Marshall? Okay, sure.
But I would prefer someone who brings something more to the table. Someone who can stretch the field and burn even the fastest corners 1-on-1. You get opponents to respect the deep ball, and things became available underneath and the whole field opens up to your offense more.
I would take Kelly over another prospect, he's a big target and has speed much like B-Marsh. He's not the sexy pick like Thomas or Jackson, but he will be a viable #2. We don't need to strecth the field too often, it's usually short passes then pick up YAC. However, any WR listed on the list other than Sweed will do for me.
Sweed could actually give Cutler an endzone target.
Our red-zone offense was pathetic last year, and if we cant help our RB's punch it in by drafting some lineman, we may as well give Cutler a big tall strong guy to jump above everyone and bring it down.
I said Thomas but I like Kelly too. I hate to say bold statements about guys coming out but it would scare me really bad to have a 169 lb. WR out there.
I was largely torn between Kelly, Jackson, and Thomas, and ended up voting for Thomas (he seems to be a mix of the other two). I would be okay with either of the three. I'm a little wary of Sweed because of his injury history, and Hardy because of his character concerns.
All three have holes - Jackson's size and ability to stay healthy as a result, Thomas' rawness. Kelly's weakness is more the lack of return ability, which is something we need as well. The more I think about it though, I feel we can find a pretty good returner with a second-day pick. As a receiving threat, Kelly appears to be the most well-rounded and complete prospect and so if available, he would be my choice.
Of course, if all the DT and OT prospects are off the board, I would rather pick Mendenhall than any of the available WRs.
Hoping for a defensive-minded head coach and a return to the ZBS on offense. At the very least, no more cheaters for head coach.
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