Raise your hand if you were right

[Cutler2007]

Last years draft had me begging to take OT Joe Staley at #21. If we had, we would have taken Thomas at #86 and would still have a third round pick this year and Staley as our new LT. I do not care how Moss turns out, Shanny blew it last year in the 1st round, lets hope he makes the right call this year.

Now I know that there was a pretty big bandwagon for Staley last year, who else made that call last year.

[Max Power]

Last years draft had me begging to take OT Joe Staley at #21. If we had, we would have taken Thomas at #86 and would still have a third round pick this year and Staley as our new LT. I do not care how Moss turns out, Shanny blew it last year in the 1st round, lets hope he makes the right call this year.

Now I know that there was a pretty big bandwagon for Staley last year, who else made that call last year.

So even if he becomes a perennial pro-bowler, it's still a waste of a pick?

I'd still rather have Moss than Staley.

Heck, I'd take any of the 1st round graded tackles this year over Staley.

[Cutler2007]

So even if he becomes a perennial pro-bowler, it's still a waste of a pick?

I'd still rather have Moss than Staley.

Heck, I'd take any of the 1st round graded tackles this year over Staley.

I knew that tile would irk someone : should have said if you think you were right.

Staley was the best OL man SF had last year, and will no doubt IMO see a couple pro bowls, but to each there own.

[Max Power]

I knew that tile would irk someone : should have said if you think you were right.

Staley was the best OL man SF had last year, and will no doubt IMO see a couple pro bowls, but to each there own.

Well, I wasn't too happy about trading up for Moss, simply because like many others I didn't see the need to trade up for him, but he was the exact type of player we needed on defense the most - a speedy pass-rusher. If we got Staley, we might have a franchise LT (maybe Ryan Harris is it), but then we wouldn't have a speed-rushing DE with the potential of Moss. Not having a 3rd round pick this year kinda sucks, but we can still get one from Foxy possibly or by packaging our 4ths to trade up (or by trading down).

[AC1]

Well, I wasn't too happy about trading up for Moss, simply because like many others I didn't see the need to trade up for him, but he was the exact type of player we needed on defense the most - a speedy pass-rusher. If we got Staley, we might have a franchise LT (maybe Ryan Harris is it), but then we wouldn't have a speed-rushing DE with the potential of Moss. Not having a 3rd round pick this year kinda sucks, but we can still get one from Foxy possibly or by packaging our 4ths to trade up. Not having one won't kill our draft at all.

To be fair, we already had a speed-rushing DE in Dumervil, got another pretty good pass-rusher in Crowder, and could have picked up Harvey this year. So he does have a point (even though there's more than one thing wrong with the way he tried to make it).

However, I would much rather have Moss and Clady/Williams, rather than Harvey and Staley, simply because of how much larger the gap in talent is between Clady/Williams and Staley, compared to the gap in talent between Moss and Harvey (from the little I know, Harvey is said to be more polished but Moss has the greater upside).

[LarryDean]

Now I know that there was a pretty big bandwagon for Staley last year, who else made that call last year.

Not I,

I wanted S Reggie Nelson,Michael Griffin,Ted Ginn Jr. - WR

In years passed I always would want to draft the sexy pick.

I think we all have spotted are fair share of draft bust that we know the Broncos was making a mistake on.

Im giving Moss a two to three year window to detemine if is a bust or not.

I would like to atleast see him get 6+ sacks,40+ tackles this year.

[Cutler2007]

Simply because of how much larger the gap in talent is between Clady/Williams and Staley,

Not sure what you are basing this on? Staley's workout numbers blow Long's away (except for bench and Staley would have been #2 to this years group in that) much less Clady's and Williams. Outside of one very bad game against the Giants last year Staley was rock solid...in the pros, not in college.

Staley will be better LT than ANY OT in this draft...it's just a huge missed opportunity.

[Cutler2007]

In years passed I always would want to draft the sexy pick.

Yeah, I'm more of a build inside out type of guy and like the guys that do the dirty work

[draco193]

Staley was a member of an offensive line that gave up 55 sacks.

[Cutler2007]

Staley was a member of an offensive line that gave up 55 sacks.

Pears gave up 20.3% of our sacks, pretty much his fair share.

Staley gave up 16.3% of the 49ers sacks, less than his share...as a rookie starting all 16 games. He also had less penalties than Pears.

[draco193]

Pears gave up 20.3% of our sacks, pretty much his fair share.

Staley gave up 16.3% of the 49ers sacks, less than his share...as a rookie starting all 16 games. He also had less penalties than Pears.

I would rather have Clady or Williams than either one. Pears is a good backup, and an average starter. Sixteen percent still means he gave up nine sacks.

Also, just on a side note, where did you get your stats from? I was trying to find how many sacks players individually gave up, but, had little luck.

[Ian]

Pears gave up 20.3% of our sacks, pretty much his fair share.

Staley gave up 16.3% of the 49ers sacks, less than his share...as a rookie starting all 16 games. He also had less penalties than Pears.

I thought that Pears was the backup last year, only playing because of the injuries in our interior.

Anyway, I had Moss in most of my Mocks last year, so I was/am happy that we got him. I do wonder if we really had to trade up for him though.

[kratos_godofwar]

So even if he becomes a perennial pro-bowler, it's still a waste of a pick?

To add to that.

Even if Moss becomes a Hall of Fame player, breaks the single game, single season sack number. Would it still be a waste of a pick?

I don't mind Moss because that's what we were lacking last year, pass rushers. He still has a lot of upside to him and is still learning the game. Staley would have been nice to have, but he's no Clady/Williams/Otah. Those guys would have been selected before Staley last year, Clady espeically.

[GridironChamp]

Hinesight = 20/20... Now Staley was a popular pick around these boards, but alot of ppl were on the Moss Kool-Aid (DeSearn Jackson?).

[AC1]

Not sure what you are basing this on? Staley's workout numbers blow Long's away (except for bench and Staley would have been #2 to this years group in that) much less Clady's and Williams. Outside of one very bad game against the Giants last year Staley was rock solid...in the pros, not in college.

Staley will be better LT than ANY OT in this draft...it's just a huge missed opportunity.

I'm basing it on the rating scouts are giving Clady and Williams. Both of them and Otah are all rated higher than Levi Brown was last year. Brown went top-10 last year, and would probably be a late-first, early-second (exactly where Staley went) kinda guy this year

Moreover, based on the percentages you mentioned (great find, by the way and I would appreciate the link as well), Staley gave up a whopping 9 sacks, while Pears, at 20% of the Broncos' 32 sacks gave up 6.5. Bear in mind now that Staley is a first-round pick whereas Pears was an undrafted fee-agent.