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  • #16
    Curry could be the best linebacker in the draft, and I definitely don't think he'll be there at 28-32. I would love to get him if we could, I like exploring the idea of converting him to MLB, unless Larsen turns out to be something.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lottaphil View Post
      Curry could be the best linebacker in the draft, and I definitely don't think he'll be there at 28-32. I would love to get him if we could, I like exploring the idea of converting him to MLB, unless Larsen turns out to be something.

      i dont know about best, maybe top 3-5 but not best.......

      i hate laurinitas but him and Malugua plus maybe cushing will go ahead, if i had to guess now i say curry will be the 4th LB selected by us of course at around pick 28.....lol

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      • #18
        Originally posted by elevation INC View Post
        yea i constantly throw things out there but i think i am finally satisfied with my early wish-list for the draft

        First trade our first rd pick which is probally going to be 19-21 range, and obtain a 28-32 pick. as a result we end up with a later first rd pick, and an extra third rd pick.

        now some of you might think its a stretch and it usually is but if i was GM for this team i would do whatever it took to do this....the reason is because of who we would draft.



        1- SLB Aaron Curry From Wake Forest- the guy is a supremely underated LB, and does not get the attention he deserves. He dominates agains the run, is very versatile as he can play insdie as well. he defends the pass very well, and is suprisingly very athletic for his size. He sheds blocks well, and knows how to make plays.
        i like this pick better then spikes
        My reason for this is i am tired of seeing Winborn, and boss bailey wasnt that good while he was in before his injury, not to mention he got injured every game before his season eneded. like him all you want but i want reliable at SLB. we get that with a guy like aaron Curry.

        2. FS Derek Peagues from MISS ST- i think FS safety is the bigger need for us. Mcree showed us why he was let go from Sandiego, and even though manuel is horrible. mcree is terrible as well. replacing him with someone like peagues allows are CB's much more hlp. Peagues is a ballhawk and the type of safety that could finally give us that underneath help and help over top. he has good range, is a beast in coverage and can play the run well.

        I tottally aggree with this. although i am not enthused about his size. i just keep reminding myself bob sanders
        3a. DT Peria Jerry from OLe miss- very tough DT, he does well agains the run and shows a good ability at getting to the QB. he is well rounded and doesnt get bullied easily. its clear robertson isnt going to work here so a talent influx is needed. Powell provides depth while thomas and peterson provide solid starters

        3b. ILB Daniel Holtzclaw from Eastern Michigan- Sheds blocks extremly well, very agile side line to sideline. very good blitzer, solid in coverage, and a absolute beast against the run. Nate is a stop gap and may leave after the season. Webster shouldnt be allowed to stay the starter with out competiton and niko is not that, holtclaw provides a solid numkber 2 MLB that can knock nate from his throne rather quickly
        .We'd be so lucky to get either of these guys at these picks. Holtzclaw is a riser that is for sure. and there is speculation that peria could go as high as first but i see him in the second.

        4- RB Devin moore from Wyoming- tough runner for his size, with game changing speed, can return kicks and has very good vision. he is essentially the chris johnson of the 2009 draft. we lack this type of back, everyone wants a bruiser, but thats easier to find for our system. What we really need at Rb is a guy that can take it 65 yds in a blink. this guy is a game changer and we have lacked that speed for long runs for a very long time. a guy like torain or pittman or cory boyd, can carry the load for us but moore can provide that prototypical change of pace that selvin and hall fail miserably at.

        i would rather try and get sproles from the chargers.
        5. DE Jeremy Jarmon from kentucky- having a very solid year, he is a very good all round DE at 275lbs. His size and power would fit well on our line. he is very good against the run and shows a good ability at rushing the passer. Engleberger may not be with the team next year nor ekuban, and moss and dumervil arent great against the run. we need more help at DE

        If EE or JE are not with this team next year we are in even more trouble

        6. OG Tyrone Greene from auburn- solid fit for the ZBS at 310 lbs provides decent size and power inside. kuper and hamilton need some depth behind them and this should be a good depth pick for us. Licht also shows the ability for ceneter and guard. so i think 1 guard will suffice.

        Witha late round flyer on a interior lineman i cant argue with that. seems we do well when picking lineman



        6b. DE Jeremy Navarre from maryland- Another all round DE, i dont liek getting abused on the outside, so bigger guys with the ability to stop the run and rush the passer are what we need to llok for not 240lb De's that can do both things.
        Its gonna be hard getting all this youth and have them all stick


        7a. S Sherrod martin from troy -a good depth pick here, rodgers, barrett and peagues would make our sfatey core ten times better than what it is now. martin is a ballhawk, but aklso shows a good ability to lay a tough hit for his 190lb frame. very solid work ethci and charcater.

        I think barrett is not gonna make this team next year unless he turns it on. seems we have tried EVERYONE but him. and i think that is for a good reason not gonna argue the pick though
        7b. CB dwain crawford from baylor- a depth pick. plain and simple. Champ and Dre will be our 1 nd 2 next year, paymah will probally resign if he continues to improve and josh bell and jack williams show promise. however injuries could strike and paymah and bell could walk, so ionsurance is a must. Crawford is a very good sized corner with pretty good speed. also does well agains the run.

        I aggree were just gonna have to stick with what we have. although i think if we can get better safety play and DL play these two gusy are gonna get better just because


        anyways i know you all get tired, but i like this combination of picks and think it address most of what this team needs up and down the defense as well as at RB and Guard
        i have to give it to you. best mock i have seen yet from ya keep it up
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        • #19
          Originally posted by elevation INC View Post
          thats just it, you and i were never a fan of boss, and the reasons have reared there ugly face again as to why!

          i dont like taking a SAM in the 1st either but what happens is we get a guy that can instantly make an impact at SAM(and i mean pro bowl impact), and a 3rd rd pick to address DT with a very solid prospect in peria Jerry. it may not be flashy, but in the end it would pay off big time......


          i would be happy with a different 1st rd pick, but overall i think we would come out of the draft going wow that was some solid stuff. not flashy but solid.


          the problem with our earlier drafts, is that we reached for flashy picks and worried about flashy picks quite a bit. last year we went for hard workers and guys that werent considered flashy!!! well our draft payed off big time so far
          The problem with taking a SAM in the first is $$$ SLB is underpaid. and usually you can find guys that can play the position well later in the draft. so you spend a ton of dough on SLB big contract for a MLB and WLB and well you dont have as much cap for glaring needs that you could have saved by picking up a donnie spraghen type.
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          • #20
            I could live with it. About the only problem I have with it is the RB. I don't think Shanny will draft a change-of-pace back. I think the reason he put Alridge on IR was because he liked him too much to waive him but he didn't have room on the roster. Plus after having every single RB out for the game and all but one out for the season, I'd rather get a durable guy if we want a RB. IDK what the general feeling about Torain is(I was gone for a few days after the game so I don't know what people were saying), but I thought he looked like he had a lot of talent. But it looks like he'll need another power-type back to go with him to keep him healthy.
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            • #21
              Problem is...

              Right now, Curry is projected to be a Top 12 selection, meaning he is an unlikely draft choice for the Broncos. He is also a true OLB, so you would be projecting him inside, which did not work so well for DJ Williams. If the Broncos are going to do that, I would prefer Virginia's Clint Sintim, as he has at least played there on occasion.

              I don't know much about Derek Pegues, but he has a slight build that has to be a concern going forward in the NFL. He is built like Reggie Nelson, who as we have seen has had trouble staying healthy.

              Personally, all this Safety talk is exaggerated. If the Broncos can draft William Moore or Taylor Mays, that's great, or Myron Rolle in the second round...beyond that, Miami's Yeremiah Bell would do quite nicely in free agency, allowing the Broncos to look elsewhere on draft day....at least early.

              Just in terms of probable selection, I think Brandon Spikes and James Lauinaitis are the most likely candidates if the Broncos go LB in round one. To me, the trio of DJ Williams, Brandon Spikes and Wesley Woodyard would be a great LB corp.

              BTW, you missed badly with Peria Jerry. The Miss DT is rapidly climbing up the charts, is no worse than a mid-second rounder at this point, and could slip into the first round. Just FYI.

              The Ole Miss Defense has been very good this year, and both Jerry and Greg Hardy are probably going to end up Top 20 selections as a result.

              As far as Holtzclaw is concerned, I just don't know. Some say he is a Zach Thomas type, and if he is that will work, but I have also heard he is limited athletically, so the combine is going to be important for him. Much more info is needed if you are going to project him as a potential starter in the NFL.
              I don't think you can go there yet.

              Auburn OG Tyrone Green could very easily end up a Day One pick, and won't get out of round four at the latest.

              Also, I would definitely prefer Colorado St RB Gartrell Johnson to Wyo's Moore.

              Just my .02.
              Last edited by MindField; 11-10-2008, 08:01 AM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Broncosinindy View Post
                The problem with taking a SAM in the first is $$$ SLB is underpaid. and usually you can find guys that can play the position well later in the draft. so you spend a ton of dough on SLB big contract for a MLB and WLB and well you dont have as much cap for glaring needs that you could have saved by picking up a donnie spraghen type.


                very true and a good point, certainly something to consider
                Last edited by elevation INC; 11-11-2008, 10:20 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MindField View Post
                  Right now, Curry is projected to be a Top 12 selection, meaning he is an unlikely draft choice for the Broncos. He is also a true OLB, so you would be projecting him inside, which did not work so well for DJ Williams. If the Broncos are going to do that, I would prefer Virginia's Clint Sintim, as he has at least played there on occasion.

                  I don't know much about Derek Pegues, but he has a slight build that has to be a concern going forward in the NFL. He is built like Reggie Nelson, who as we have seen has had trouble staying healthy.

                  Personally, all this Safety talk is exaggerated. If the Broncos can draft William Moore or Taylor Mays, that's great, or Myron Rolle in the second round...beyond that, Miami's Yeremiah Bell would do quite nicely in free agency, allowing the Broncos to look elsewhere on draft day....at least early.

                  Just in terms of probable selection, I think Brandon Spikes and James Lauinaitis are the most likely candidates if the Broncos go LB in round one. To me, the trio of DJ Williams, Brandon Spikes and Wesley Woodyard would be a great LB corp.

                  BTW, you missed badly with Peria Jerry. The Miss DT is rapidly climbing up the charts, is no worse than a mid-second rounder at this point, and could slip into the first round. Just FYI.

                  The Ole Miss Defense has been very good this year, and both Jerry and Greg Hardy are probably going to end up Top 20 selections as a result.

                  As far as Holtzclaw is concerned, I just don't know. Some say he is a Zach Thomas type, and if he is that will work, but I have also heard he is limited athletically, so the combine is going to be important for him. Much more info is needed if you are going to project him as a potential starter in the NFL.
                  I don't think you can go there yet.

                  Auburn OG Tyrone Green could very easily end up a Day One pick, and won't get out of round four at the latest.

                  Also, I would definitely prefer Colorado St RB Gartrell Johnson to Wyo's Moore.

                  Just my .02.


                  thanks for the inputs, and your right about peria jerry, he is a second rd pick right now, so the value is off, however i would take him in the second rd knowing what i know about him now.


                  as for peagues he is the best ballhawk safety in the draft. at his size its not a problem for us because he would be our deep cover safety, not our box safety where size is a big deal.


                  Dont be suprised if Dj moves back to middle, if woodyard proves to be starting material. Dj moved back to WLB because we ahd no one else to start there, not because he sucked at MLB, he was doing well at MLB the last part of the season.


                  as for holtzclaw, he is no less athletic than niko, difference is he reacts to plays quickly and doesnt sit on them, plus he is a good blitzer, something webster or niko is not.


                  i understand your man love for gatrell, and its warranted, fair enough......



                  as for tyrone greene, i dont think he makes it that high, i really dont, i see rd 6 as a very likely possibilty. but regardless of the player we need a 6th rd flier on interior line help for depth....



                  thanks for the inputs:salute!:

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                  • #24
                    How about we trade all our picks and Brandon Marshall and Champ Bailey for Brian Orakpo and Ray Maleauga (sp?)

                    Woohoo it's Madden!!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hoserman117 View Post
                      How about we trade all our picks and Brandon Marshall and Champ Bailey for Brian Orakpo and Ray Maleauga (sp?)

                      Woohoo it's Madden!!

                      WOW , I almost thought you were funny


                      trading our first rd pick to move back 8 spots and obatin a third rd pick, is not madden like, pay attention to the trades tha went down last year and you will see that.


                      plus using champ and marshall to make a joke, in a conversation that has nothing to do with them, nor did it have anything to do with draft topics, is just retarded. it never cam from my mouth..........


                      especially since i dont want okrapo or rey
                      Last edited by elevation INC; 11-11-2008, 10:54 PM.

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                      • #26
                        I don't think Currey will be there that late in the first round. With Cushing not
                        living up to the hype and Weatherspoon coming back to MU I don't think that
                        he will fall that far.

                        Assuming he doesnt have a combine blunder like Conner.
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                        • #27
                          I really like this draft. I would love to add Curry and Pegues and sign MLB Mike Peterson and Safety Jermaine Phillips as FA's!

                          Then if we add some beef up front our D will improve immensely!!!

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                          • #28
                            well some thing changed rather quickly on me.....so i made some changes


                            LB Aaron curry is now considered Kieth rivers quality talent and he went eighth last year, so unless curry falls he will probally be out of range.

                            DT Peria Jerry is a lock for the second rd now.

                            RB devin moore becomes obsolete



                            So my new version is the following


                            with the 18th pick in the draft Denver selcts William Moore




                            1. S William Moore- dude is a beast and can play both SS/FS give us an impact player at a position we despeartely need an upgrade at.


                            2. DT Peria Jerry- I think Robertson is a Waste for this team, and we need a talent upgrade, powell is a rookie coming of injury, Thomas is still growing, Peterson is a passionate roation player, and robertson isnt what we thought he was. A talent upgrade is needed here.

                            3. RB Donald Brown- Yes mindfield you win. the guy is a all round player and just dominating right now, good all round back who is durable and can carry a constant load, very capable of being a franchise back.

                            4. MLB Jason Phillips- very underated MLB, i like nate but he is a FA at years end and I would be terrified if we went into camp with niko as a possible starter again.....this guy can do it all, and has the fundementals, and grit, passion and fire. to be a key cog in our defense.

                            5. DE Jeremy Jarmon- Solid all round DE, stout against the run, and very adept at getting to the QB, would help our run defense out alot from the DE position.

                            6. OG tyrone Greene- Interior depth is a need as licht is our only back-up for center and guard

                            6. DE Jeremy Navarre- Anotehr solid all round DE that can stop the run. good size and strength

                            7. S Sherrod Martin- Solid cover safety with good range, good tackler

                            7. CB Dwain crawford- Depth pick in case paymah walks, or injury strikes in TC



                            anyways a few changes but it meets all our needs
                            Last edited by elevation INC; 11-13-2008, 01:01 AM.

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                            • #29
                              We have been in first place in the division all year and since I happen to have faith in my team, I don't expect to have a first round pick before #20 at the earliest. (Most "experts" mock drafts agree.)
                              That being said, I still think that Curry or even Laurenitis may be available at #20-25. Still though, I'm not sure that a professional run-stopper or pass rush specialist would better serve our needs. The ideal pick just might be Terrence Cody, DT from Alabama. He simply can not be run on, at almost 400 lbs. he absolutely clogs the A gaps.
                              I also like Moore, S from Missouri, and DE G.Selvie who led the nation in tackles for a loss in '07. He's a junior and he may be gone by 20. At any rate, this draft outlook seems to be filled with the positions we are in need of, luckily. I would also like to see us more aggressive in free agency again. Shanny used to be a waivers king but lately just seems content to go with what he has.

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