A "What If" Scenario...

[Bronco in UT]

Ok, here is a scenario I think we should be thinking about. Lets assume we are going 3-4 and we have picked either Brown or Orakpo(sp?) for our first pick to play weekside OLB. Now in round two here is the kicker, who would we pick out of the combination of these four players:

Sintim (drops to 2nd)
English (drops to 2nd)
Brace
W.Moore

Now I am assuming that Delmas has been picked in the first round. Who do we pick out of those players? Do we pick up the strong side LB to create a "potentially great" set of outside LBers, or do we pick need and get either Moore or Brace? I would argue that we would have to pick English to provide stability and rush off the end. What does everyone think.

[ANDRE5883]

Rey Rey

Personally I feel we should draft Rey ( I personally think both Brown and Orapko are going to be bust) Rey would bring attitude and nastiness, something our new defense is going to need...

Then I would take Brace or English in that order...

You are going to be able to get Moore in the 3rd round his stock is dropping...

[CoryWinget81]

Ok, here is a scenario I think we should be thinking about. Lets assume we are going 3-4 and we have picked either Brown or Orakpo(sp?) for our first pick to play weekside OLB. Now in round two here is the kicker, who would we pick out of the combination of these four players:

Sintim (drops to 2nd)
English (drops to 2nd)
Brace
W.Moore

Now I am assuming that Delmas has been picked in the first round. Who do we pick out of those players? Do we pick up the strong side LB to create a "potentially great" set of outside LBers, or do we pick need and get either Moore or Brace? I would argue that we would have to pick English to provide stability and rush off the end. What does everyone think.

I think it all depends on if we grab a FA NT to anchor the whole thing. NT is the key to a good 3-4.

[-Rod-]

Ron Brace in the blink of an eye. Trenches, man, trenches... We can have Orakpo and English taking care of the edges, but who will hold the middle? Robertson? If we go 3-4, I think we should draft at least 2 DTs, one to play as NT and the other one to become a DE.

[SBboundBRONCOS]

Ok, here is a scenario I think we should be thinking about. Lets assume we are going 3-4 and we have picked either Brown or Orakpo(sp?) for our first pick to play weekside OLB. Now in round two here is the kicker, who would we pick out of the combination of these four players:

Sintim (drops to 2nd)
English (drops to 2nd)
Brace
W.Moore

Now I am assuming that Delmas has been picked in the first round. Who do we pick out of those players? Do we pick up the strong side LB to create a "potentially great" set of outside LBers, or do we pick need and get either Moore or Brace? I would argue that we would have to pick English to provide stability and rush off the end. What does everyone think.

umm, dont you mean strong side rush backer . . . something like ware/merriman plays. because it would be a total waste to put them at weak, unless i have them mixed up but im pretty sure i dont

but anyways if we pick up one of those 2 we basically NEED to get brace to play NT, so idk. right now i dont like switching to the 3-4 id rather stick with players that can play both. we have so much work to do its unreal

IMO we NEED to get 1-2 pretty big name young FA i personally hope for the rams S if it comes to it and peppers, it would open our draft up so much at this time to address.

[DURANGO BRONCO]

This would depend entirely on what we can accomplish in Free Agency. Because there are only a few FA agent NT candidates, the odds are against us in finding a permanent solution at NT. I think we will be forced to address NT early in the draft, so I would say Brace would be the most likely pick. I'm hopeful that either Moss or Dumervil or Woodyard will fill one of the OLB spots. This would eliminate English and Sintim. I think there are several top safeties that we might be able to sign through FA, so I would say Moore is out.

[Bronco in UT]

I completely understand the concept of needing a great NT to anchor the defense. But I also see the importance of having to create pressure along with having "Big" athletes at those positions as seen by Pittsburgh.

[Snarfalicious]

umm, dont you mean strong side rush backer . . . something like ware/merriman plays. because it would be a total waste to put them at weak, unless i have them mixed up but im pretty sure i dont

but anyways if we pick up one of those 2 we basically NEED to get brace to play NT, so idk. right now i dont like switching to the 3-4 id rather stick with players that can play both. we have so much work to do its unreal

IMO we NEED to get 1-2 pretty big name young FA i personally hope for the rams S if it comes to it and peppers, it would open our draft up so much at this time to address.

Like what you said here. It's true we have plenty of work to do this offseason, and hopefully an aggressive, yet smart, FA will be in store for the Broncos FO.

If we could somehow get Atogwe, Canty, and trade away a 4th rounder for Gabe Watson (RFA), it would go a long way in turning this D into a possible 3-4 threat by the end of the draft. Another cheap addition I would love to see would be Jabari Greer from Buffalo, he's a true playmaker, and since he lost his job to a rookie (Leodis McKelvin) he will come cheaper, and he's better than Bly.

I am not big on Peppers, obviously the guy is a star, and he most likely will be successful in a 3-4 as a rush OLB due to his freakish athleticism, but I just think we have too many holes and getting Peppers would almost be putting all our eggs (money) in one basket.

As for the draft, what I would love to see happen would be Everette Brown or Brian Orakpo fall to us (Which is a true possibility with Raji flying up into the top 10 now). I could see Orakpo sort of like being our Terrell Suggs, he will have the obvious ability to put a hand down and apply pressure in a 4-3 and also he has the athleticism to stand up and be effective in coverage and containing the run.

That would allow us to address our other OLB position with possibly Clint Sintim (his stock has fallen and with the stock rising of Larry English and Clay Matthews, Sintim might be there for us in the 2nd now).

In the 3rd I would love to see us get Michael Hamlin to man our Strong Safety position.

I'd like to somehow acquire a 4th rounder either from Doom or from Bly and grab Jarron Gilbert. He could play both DT in a 4-3 and DE in a 3-4.

With one of our 5th's I'd love to see Jasper Brinkley. Brinkley could come in, provide depth, and push for a starting role.

Sorry I kind of made a mock, but I got into it a little bit. But that's just my ideal situation.

Potential starting 3-4 D:

LDE: Thomas, Gilbert
NT: Watson, Powell
RDE: Canty, Peterson
LOLB: Sintim
LILB: Williams
RILB: Larsen, Brinkley
ROLB: Orakpo or Brown
CB: Bly (Greer if we obtain him through FA)
FS: Atogwe
SS: Hamlin (Yes, he's a third round rookie, but most likely he will be the best we have at the position)
CB: Bailey

Starting 4-3 D:
LE: Canty
DT: Watson
DT: Thomas, Gilbert
RE: Orakpo or Brown
WLB: Williams
MLB: Larsen, Brinkley
SLB: Sintim
Secondary: Same as 3-4

[got_defense??]

I would go with Brace.


And pray Jarvis makes me glad i passed on English.

[The Hamburgler]

umm, dont you mean strong side rush backer . . . something like ware/merriman plays. because it would be a total waste to put them at weak, unless i have them mixed up but im pretty sure i dont

but anyways if we pick up one of those 2 we basically NEED to get brace to play NT, so idk. right now i dont like switching to the 3-4 id rather stick with players that can play both. we have so much work to do its unreal

IMO we NEED to get 1-2 pretty big name young FA i personally hope for the rams S if it comes to it and peppers, it would open our draft up so much at this time to address.

I am pretty sure Ware and Merriman play WLB. I normally see them rushing the passer from the blindside. IDK though, but thats what I have observed.

[broncos1997]

for a moment there, i thought you literally meant "a kicker". we dont need one that badly do we? lol. but anyway i'd definatly get brace, and thanks to moore's generous drop in stock, we can go orakpo or brown, brace, then moore, which would just about fill up our most pressing needs.

corners: we're definatly set no matter how many bly haters there are around here
safety: barrett is by no means amazing, but hey hes better then our other safeties and hopefully moore can learn quickly in TC
OLBs: we'll have whoever our first round pick is and, HOPEFULLY julius peppers. if not, i guess we settle for jarvis moss or maybe jamie winborn
ILBs: obviously D.J. and larsen, woodyard, and FA pickups can battle for a spot
DT: brace or hopefully watson
DE: i think DE is going to be suprisingly good next year. I don't know how much of a suprise it would be to people, but imo between tweeners like Ekuban, peterson, crowder, marcus thomas and powell we will have a solid set of DEs for next year without spending big money or drafts.

[SBboundBRONCOS]

I am pretty sure Ware and Merriman play WLB. I normally see them rushing the passer from the blindside. IDK though, but thats what I have observed.

im confused here . . . looking at the backs of D players (POV) ware and merriman would be on the right side of the LB core?

dj who plays weak because he hates strong would be on the left side of the LBs

[broncos1997]

I am pretty sure Ware and Merriman play WLB. I normally see them rushing the passer from the blindside. IDK though, but thats what I have observed.

yeah im under the impression SLB has more of a run coverage and tight end coverage role. it doesn't make much sense to me to allow your best pass rusher to constantly be double teamed by a tackle and a TE.

[rbagcfab]

yeah im under the impression SLB has more of a run coverage and tight end coverage role. it doesn't make much sense to me to allow your best pass rusher to constantly be double teamed by a tackle and a TE.

You are right. The reason they call them weak and strong is because they rotate to the weak or strong side every play. Strong side moving to the strong side of the offense which would typically be the side that TE is on.

[rbagcfab]

You are right. The reason they call them weak and strong is because they rotate to the weak or strong side every play. Strong side moving to the strong side of the offense which would typically be the side that TE is on.

And the weak side is the side that you blitz from.