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    With our new Head Coack McDaniels coming from the very consistent and very good New England Patriots , I hope that Denver follows the approach used in New England.


    That approach is Draft Defensive Lineman. There 3 starting Lineman are all former 1st Round Picks!!! Everyone knows that football is all about the Offensive and Defensive Lines.


    Last year we got a Major piece of our Offensive Line with the selection of Ryan Clady. Who blew me away with how well he played. I thought he would be good but he was great.

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    Now is the Time that Denver will focus on the Defensive Line.


    My Big Board for Denver is as follows.

    1. BJ Raji------6'2" 334lbs DT/NT probably will be gone by our 12th Pick.


    2. Peria Jerry----6'2" 294lbs DE in a 3-4. Both good against the run and the pass. I would love to see him lined up at DE. Arguably the best Defensive Line Player at Senior Bowl. Would be able to trade down and get more draft picks also.



    3. Ron Brace-----6'3" 329lbs NT in the 3-4. HUGE NT for years to come. Would be able to trade down and get more draft picks also.



    4. Jarron Gilbert-----6'5" 289lbs DE in the 3-4. Very good Defensive Lineman. Would be able to trade down and get more picks.



    So with BJ most likely off the board at 12 , I think The Broncos should target Peria Jerry , Ron Brace , and Jarron Gilbert.


    My pick would be Ron Brace. Solve the NT positon.


    This is the New England Approach!!!

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    Not that it matters much as a UT. but he only measured in at 6-1 at the combine. Perra Jerry.

    I just dont see how denver gets a top flight NT in this draft considering alot of teams switching to 3-4 3 of them this year alone.

    I almost want to see denver draft one of the Later NT's and see what they can do about gabe watson
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    While he sits by his hearth at home.
    Quickly finds when questioned by others .
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    • #3
      My best case scenario is Denver trades back with either Detroit or Philly and gets a extra 2nd Round Pick. Both Detroit and Philly needs Tackles so I definetely see this could happen.

      Then Denver selects Ron Brace(I know this is kind of high for him but if you look at a production aspect with him and BJ Raji it is very close.

      Ron Brace's #'s 54 Tackles , 18.5 tackles for loss , 5.5 Sacks.

      BJ Raji's #'s 42 Tackles , 16 tackles for loss , 8 Sacks.

      And we would get a mid 2nd Round Pick which we could use for

      1. Rashaad Jennings
      2. Mitch King
      3. Darius Butler CB
      4. Evander Hood


      Ron Brace will be a perfect NT for Denver.

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      • #4
        Hey would you care to make a bet?

        I will make a bet with you. That if Ron Brace is there when Denver picks, you cannot start a thread for a whole year.

        And if he is there when we select i cannot start a thread for a whole year? care to dare?
        The fool who fancies he is full of wisdom
        While he sits by his hearth at home.
        Quickly finds when questioned by others .
        That he knows nothing at all.

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        • #5
          DONE!!!!!!! Like taking candy from a baby!!!

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          • #6
            Since i dont eat candy you can have it
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            While he sits by his hearth at home.
            Quickly finds when questioned by others .
            That he knows nothing at all.

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            • #7
              OK must clarify bet. If Denver stays at 12 NO they won't pick Ron Brace. If they trade back anywhere from 20 on then the bet is on.

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              • #8
                I'm going to repeat myself from the other thread. While it is true that the Patriots spent 1st round picks on DL, they also got outstanding players with those picks like Richard Seymour. McDaniels will NOT reach for a NT just because he needs one. They can't do that because there are SO many good defensive players available when they pick. They should get a great player on defense. CB, LB, DE, DT, S, it doesn't matter, Denver needs them all!

                Denver does NOT have to worry about any one position, since they need EVERY position on defense. NT most of all of course, but they can't afford to reach for a NT if a better LB, CB or DE is available.

                We're NOT talking about taking a player at ONE position! We're talking about taking the best available DEFENSIVE player at ANY position on the entire defense!

                So, no matter WHAT happens on draft day a VERY GOOD defensive player WILL be available at #12. They can't all be gone by operation of simple math! Only 11 players will be taken and some of them, probably as many as 6 or 7 will be OFFENSIVE players.

                That means ONLY five or six defensive players can be taken before the Broncos pick and there are more than that number of elite defensive talent available in the draft.


                So, it's no problem. The Broncos don't need to take a RB just because he's the best player on the board. They don't need to take a NT because they need one. They can take the best available defender and STILL get a great player at SOME position for their defense.

                For instance, if there's a run on DL, well that lets the top rated CB fall doesn't it? How would Michael Jenkins or Vontae Davis look in Orange & Blue? Because I wouldn't be unhappy with either of those picks!

                And no Raji or Orakpo? What about Everette Brown? Or Rey Maualuga or Maybin or Brian Cushing or possibly Aaron Curry? SOMEONE WILL FALL! THEY CAN'T TAKE THEM ALL!

                And the Broncos will take him and he'll be a great addition to the defense!

                That's called draft discipline, and the Patriots have had it. That's why they have been successful. I have to think McDaniels and Xanders will have it too. There'll be plenty of good players in the 2nd & 3rd rounds as well.
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                • #9
                  if your going by that approach i think you have to add tyson jackson to that list

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                  • #10
                    While I wouldn't be adverse to the Broncos trading back and stockp8iling picks, I don't think it's necessary. Just sit still and take the best available defender at your pick.

                    Do that in every round, maybe throw in a RB in the 3rd or 4th round and if you do a solid job then you've got some great talent who can come in and help you. That's the quickest way to shore up the defense.
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                    • #11
                      I still believe that if BJ Raji is gone(which unfortunately is likely) that Denver should trade down.

                      We need a NT and dropping 8-10 spots and grabbing Ron Brace who actually had some better stats than BJ Raji would make alot of sense.

                      Ask Ray Lewis when he didn't have Ngata in front of him. It was some of his worst years.

                      Drafting Brace would be a HUGE pickup and getting a Extra 2nd Round Pick would be a great bonus.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by broncofansd View Post
                        I still believe that if BJ Raji is gone(which unfortunately is likely) that Denver should trade down.

                        We need a NT and dropping 8-10 spots and grabbing Ron Brace who actually had some better stats than BJ Raji would make alot of sense.

                        Ask Ray Lewis when he didn't have Ngata in front of him. It was some of his worst years.

                        Drafting Brace would be a HUGE pickup and getting a Extra 2nd Round Pick would be a great bonus.
                        where are the better stats?

                        2008 stats

                        ...............tackles........TFL....sacks........ pass breakup.....qb hurry......FF
                        Raji..............42...........16........8........ ........5.....................3..........0
                        Brace............27..........11........3.......... ......0.....................0...........1

                        2007 w/o/ raji...27........7.5......2.5..............0...... ................1...........0


                        2006
                        Raji's..............23......8.5..........2........ ........3.......................0...........2
                        Brace.............20........0............0........ .......0........................0..........0
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                        • #13
                          Mis read NFLDRAFTSCOUT.com's stats on Ron Brace. It had 54 tackles later saying it was for 2 years.

                          None the less Ron Brace is a Ideal NT.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by broncofansd View Post
                            With our new Head Coack McDaniels coming from the very consistent and very good New England Patriots , I hope that Denver follows the approach used in New England.


                            That approach is Draft Defensive Lineman. There 3 starting Lineman are all former 1st Round Picks!!! Everyone knows that football is all about the Offensive and Defensive Lines.


                            Last year we got a Major piece of our Offensive Line with the selection of Ryan Clady. Who blew me away with how well he played. I thought he would be good but he was great.

                            _______________________________________________

                            Now is the Time that Denver will focus on the Defensive Line.


                            My Big Board for Denver is as follows.

                            1. BJ Raji------6'2" 334lbs DT/NT probably will be gone by our 12th Pick.


                            2. Peria Jerry----6'2" 294lbs DE in a 3-4. Both good against the run and the pass. I would love to see him lined up at DE. Arguably the best Defensive Line Player at Senior Bowl. Would be able to trade down and get more draft picks also.



                            3. Ron Brace-----6'3" 329lbs NT in the 3-4. HUGE NT for years to come. Would be able to trade down and get more draft picks also.



                            4. Jarron Gilbert-----6'5" 289lbs DE in the 3-4. Very good Defensive Lineman. Would be able to trade down and get more picks.



                            So with BJ most likely off the board at 12 , I think The Broncos should target Peria Jerry , Ron Brace , and Jarron Gilbert.


                            My pick would be Ron Brace. Solve the NT positon.


                            This is the New England Approach!!!

                            I like the the thought of upgrading our defensive line through the draft but their are some major holes in your mock. First off Peria Jerry is way to small to be a succesful 3-4 DE at only 6'2.

                            Also with Jarron Gilbert's latest hype because of the youtube video of him jumping out of a pool, scouts will take an extra look at him and i almost guarantee he jumps up the boards at the combine and will be gone by the end of round 2. Although i would love for him to be our Rd. 2 selection!

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                            • #15
                              When all is said and done, I still think it will end up being Tyson Jackson. He fits in every way, shape, and form.

                              One, he is perfect for the LDE spot in a 3-4; a Ty Warren clone. He is a major power player who can do all the things you need a 3-4 DE to do (anchor & shed, bull rush, etc).

                              Two, he is a productive team player. He is talented enough to play at the under-tackle spot or a 6-technique in a 4-3 thereby adding the versatility we will need as we make the transition to McDaniel's new scheme. He also had 10+ TFLs while being the player opposing teams focused on.

                              Three, he is available. No one will be picking him before the #12 pick unless he simply blows up his workouts at the combine. (I personally am really excited to see if his workouts confirm his play) With Raji gone (and likely not a very good NT pick anyway) he will be the best DL available in the draft for the Broncos.

                              The only ways I see us not taking him are...

                              A) We fill the LDE spot in FA. This doesn't seem likely as the two most natural FA prospects (Olshansky and Canty) both are better fits at RDE. The only way we fill the LDE spot prior to the draft is if drop the cash bomb on Albert Haynesworth. Why? Because lets face it, the guy could play and start as any technique from 1-7 for most teams in the league. He's just that good.

                              B) Aaron Curry drops to us at 12. The chances of this happening, however, are slim to none.
                              “One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain” ~Thomas Sowell

                              2008 Draft: my grade --> A-

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