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  • KWHIT97
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    Originally posted by Botan View Post
    That won't have anything to do with it. I'm sorry. Teams want to win now, and Cutler can help them do that. Multiple first round picks, or we get ripped off.
    He hasn't won in this league yet, explain to me how he will help the Detroit Lions win. My personal opinion is the Lions would be retarded to give up multiple 1st round picks to get Cutler when they can just use the #1 pick on Stafford and build thier defense!

    I'm sorry, but Cutler is not worth #1 and #20, but if the Lions are willing to pay it, we'd take it. I still don't think the #1 pick is involved in an trade we make!

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  • kratos_godofwar
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    Originally posted by stickyicky420 View Post
    That rocket arm has diabetes which will envitably shorten his career my friend has diabetes and trust me its a seesaw battle.
    well, can your friend afford the best doctors that money has to offer? Does your friend make millions a year? Does you friend have someone constantly checking their blood? If no to all or 1, then your friend isn't being treated in the same manner as Cutler.

    But seriously, why would we want Peterson? He's old, overpaid, and won't take a paycut. A better offer would be Calvin Johnson and the 20th overall + 2 2nd rounders for Jay Cutler. That way we can afford to cut our loses with Marshall next year and still have the same type of player on our team. Except less problematic and would have a better chance of success than in DET.

    I'm pretty sure any decent QB would have a field day with Marshall, CJ, Royal and Stokely as their receivers. And with that 20th pick you can get Sanchez or Freeman and they would succeed very well.

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  • KWHIT97
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    Originally posted by RunYouOver View Post
    Peterson, #1, #20 and next year's first rounder for Cutler, and only Cutler.


    That's the deal, and nothing less.

    Anything less than that and I'm pissed. If it is that, well...I'm actually excited.
    I would cream myself if that happened!


    :cutler: = Julian Peterson, Matt Stafford, Knowshon Moreno, Taylor Mays/Eric Berry, and Boo Robinson

    If McD could pull this off I would fly to Denver and personally escort Mr. Cutler out of town myself!

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  • pzmire
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    Originally posted by Twizlers View Post
    Broncos already said they weren't trading Cutler. I HIGHLY doubt they will back out of their word after what all has gone thru.
    O Yes We Might - Probably Should At This Point

    http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_11919325

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  • Hypnotic
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    Originally posted by Cutler=Elway View Post
    You live In Michigan...What are they saying on the ticket? Turn it on and listen...

    I'm just saying why would the Lions trade Redding for an undersized...OLB or DE? They are set at OLB they drafted that position the last 2 drafts with Dizon and AVRIL...

    He may Not be a straight NOLAN guy but he did coach him and he is a 3-4 OLB...And thats a fact...
    Maybe they are making room for Raji.

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  • pipes
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    Ah...no, I don't think so...........

    Originally posted by Cutler=Elway View Post
    Why would Detroit trade a Beefed up Redding For another OLB? They have Simms, Dizon, and just drafted the undersized DE from Purdue last year who is a speed rusher...

    My guess... Peterson, #1, #20 to Denver For Jay and Sheff and our #12...

    My buddy in Detroit is saying this over and over again...People are asking why would they Trade a big man up front...(which they need) for a guy in Peterson who is a NOLAN GUY FROM SAN FRAN after they already have that position...HMMMMMMMMMMM!
    Basically if Denver did make this trade, then they would be even dumber than the Lions...the Seahawks were going to CUT Julian....

    The Lions continue to be the laughing stock of the league, apparently it wasn't ALL Millen's fault.

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...ame-old-lions/

    SAME OLD LIONS?
    Posted by Mike Florio on March 14, 2009, 7:35 p.m. EDT
    With multiple reports that the Seattle Seahawks were going to cut linebacker Julian Peterson after he refused a pay cut, the Detroit Lions opted not to wait for the inevitable release of Peterson.

    Instead, they packed up a starting defensive lineman and a fifth-round pick in order to inherit the back end of the puffed up contract paid three years ago to Peterson, who’ll be 31 in July.

    The move has renewed criticism of the Lions in league circles.

    “If you went 0-16 would you trade a pick and a good young player for a 31 year old?” one league source asked us.

    (Actually, if we went 0-16, we’d cash in whatever remaining chips we could scrape together and find a new line of business to screw up over an extended period of time.)

    We’ve largely forgotten about the Lions because there are no games for them to lose in March, but league insiders still point to the franchise as a shining beacon of pro football ineptitude.

    The arrival of former Jags V.P. of player personnel James Harris has done little to improve the front office’s image in league circles.

    “[G.M. Martin] Mayhew is bad enough in trying to evaluate talent,” one source opined. “Instead of one guy not knowing what he’s doing now you have two guys doing the same routine.”

    In fact, one league insider has been referring to Mayhew and Harris as the “Millen Twins.”

    But there’s possibly good news on the horizon. Some league insiders expect that new coach Jim Schwartz will try to make a power play, if he can win at least five or six games in the wake of last year’s humiliating season.

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  • mooncamping
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    Julian Peterson is the premier outside linebacker in the NFL.
    I was also surprised by this move, because he is a different athelete type, compared to Ernie Sims, who I consider unbenchable and untradable. Ernie Sims is a compact freak, while Julian Peterson is the polar oposite, a rangy long limbed freak. In my mind that´s an asymetric aproach to having bookend outside linebackers. I know the popular opinion is that you have to draft player types to contend with the chalenges of which side you are placed on as an outside linebacker, that is bigger and stronger as a strong side linebacker (where the tight-end lines up) or smaller and faster as weak side linebacker (where there is no tight end). But I do think that approach is over-specialized, and you should look for more versatile atheletes at the most athletically chalenging position in football.
    I must echo Cutler=Elways druthers. It is a weird move.
    And also kudos to the slant, that they may have picked up Julian Peterson, to then trade him further for something they want. That possibility never occured to me.
    To the others, #1, #20 and Julian Peterson. That´s a dream. How you can even get yourselves to find negative angles on this, is beyond comprehensible to me. I mean sure you are weighing your options, but geez.

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  • Botan
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    Originally posted by stickyicky420 View Post
    Multiple first rd picks no one wants that give me there #20 and the rest of there draft #1 overall is too expensive for an unproven player.

    While I agree with the last part, people WOULD give up multiple first round picks.

    Lets look at a group of teams that would love to have Cutler:

    1) Lions #1, #20.
    2) Bucs
    3) Vikings
    4) Bears
    5) Jets
    6) Titans
    7) Panthers ( I don't believe they're happy with Jake Delhomme)

    There may be more interested.

    You can't tell me that these teams wouldn't get in a bidding war for Jay Cutler.

    And by multiple first round draft picks, they could also be picks next year.

    We could get a 1st, 2nd this year and a first next year. Or a 1st, 2nd and a very good starter.

    As for the # 1 pick that we could get from the lions, we could use on the best and safest defensive player in the whole draft. Aaron Curry. Last year the Vikings traded a mid 1st, and 2 3rd round picks for Jared Allen, a pass rusher. You can't tell me that we could only get a 2nd and a decent starter for Cutler.

    Oh and Julius Peppers really wants out of Carolina, and they need to get his huge franchise number off their books. He's also 30 which lessens his value.

    1st round pick, Peppers, + a 3rd( at the very least) for Cutler anyone?

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  • stickyicky420
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    Multiple first rd picks no one wants that give me there #20 and the rest of there draft #1 overall is too expensive for an unproven player.

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  • Botan
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    Originally posted by stickyicky420 View Post
    That rocket arm has diabetes which will envitably shorten his career my friend has diabetes and trust me its a seesaw battle.
    That won't have anything to do with it. I'm sorry. Teams want to win now, and Cutler can help them do that. Multiple first round picks, or we get ripped off.

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  • stickyicky420
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    Originally posted by Botan View Post
    No. Jay Cutler IS worth that much. He is a franchise QB, 25 years old, a perfect fit for pretty much anybody but McDaniels apparently, and he has a rocket arm.

    The only reason this team has missed the playoffs the last 2 years was because all of the pressure was on the offense. You don't trade a young Brett Favre like QB for anything less than multiple first round picks.
    That rocket arm has diabetes which will envitably shorten his career my friend has diabetes and trust me its a seesaw battle.

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  • Botan
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    Originally posted by jvw View Post
    You may have to be pissed, there is no way that Cutler is worth that much. If Jay is traded, imo, the #20 will land him and saying that a 1st will get him is almost stretching it. I know that he has tremendous talent but lets not forget he has a losing record as a starter and not to mention a very poor attitude.

    Peterson and a 2nd, or Peterson and their 2 thirds maybe but no way they give up both first rounders for him. You might be able to make an argument that they could give up the #1 over all for him if they were planning on drafting Stafford, why not trade for someone with game experience instead of an unproven rookie.
    No. Jay Cutler IS worth that much. He is a franchise QB, 25 years old, a perfect fit for pretty much anybody but McDaniels apparently, and he has a rocket arm.

    The only reason this team has missed the playoffs the last 2 years was because all of the pressure was on the offense. You don't trade a young Brett Favre like QB for anything less than multiple first round picks.

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  • stickyicky420
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    Originally posted by RunYouOver View Post
    Peterson, #1, #20 and next year's first rounder for Cutler, and only Cutler.


    That's the deal, and nothing less.

    Anything less than that and I'm pissed. If it is that, well...I'm actually excited.
    That would be nice i would take peterson #20 and their 2nd rd picks this year and next

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by bronco30 View Post
    my understanding of it is when never had the chance to say no...bcuzz we came in to late n the pats already agreed to send him to KC...my gut feeling is the pats wanted to stick it mcdaniels n they did that n then some...
    Read the Denver Post today, the latest twist is that the Patriots were the one's that started the entire trade talk, tried to force Cassel on us only to have McDaniels say no, Belichick then leaked the story to the Boston Globe and the entire thing exploded. With all that we know about Bill Belichick do you really think that he would turn down a first round pick because he didn't feel the other trade offers were made early enough? Belichick is not ethical, I'm positive he'd back out of a deal at the very last second, even if he already had a preliminary agreement in place, if it meant he could get something better.

    As far as Peterson goes, why would we want a guy scheduled to make $8 million dollars this season when he only recorded 5 sacks last year? If we're going to pay that kind of money Jason Taylor or Julius Peppers (under a new contract) make much more sense then Peterson.

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  • AznBroncoFan
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    Originally posted by Cutler=Elway View Post
    Trade brings No. 1 overall pick into focus


    TELL ME WHERE CURRY FITS SMART ONE? BOOKENDS DIZON IN THE MIDDLE? THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE....JP is making about 6 mill more then CR just thought you should know...He is a 4.5 cap hit to Seattle...He is making almost double a year then Redding but good try.
    lol dizon? he's a benchwarmer as far as I'm concerned. Never heard any high praises about the guy...don't know why you think he's so great lol?

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