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    8 of the top quarterbacks as scouted by myself. Inspired by another thread about perspective quarterbacks for the Broncos, assuming Cutler is traded. I am NOT advocating that Cutler be traded. I did however, enjoy scouting quarterbacks and compiled the following list and did apply some of the analysis to how each would fit with the Broncos.

    Graham Harrell
    Harrell has the pocket presence that you look for in a quarterback. It reminds me of Tom Brady, but you have to have the weapons around him as well as the offensive line to protect him. Imagine that, we've got both. If McDaniels really wanted to emulate the Patriot way Harrell very well could be the cheap man's Tom Brady. Good poise, good vision. Great accuracy.
    Curtis Painter
    Apparently we're going to work out Curtis Painter. I found this video of him and he looks pretty good. Until, however, I found out that he was very poor decision-making skills and cracks under pressure. He would be a middle round pick in the fourth or fifth, I believe.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8h...b-purdue_sport

    He didn't have great stats this past year. If you listened to the video, though, you'd have heard that he could've been a first day pick last year. His junior season was pretty stellar, until he lost a couple of his best weapons. I think Painter is the type of guy that needs to sit on the bench for a couple of years and if he finally gets a chance, he could succeed. But he needs time to familiarize himself with the system and his offensive peers.
    Mark Sanchez
    Meanwhile, I was checking out some highlights of Mark Sanchez. He gained a lot of respect from me after hearing a story from Rice University's tight end expected to go in this year's draft. Looking for a quarterback to throw the ball with just the night before the combine, none other than Sanchez and his fellow USC receiver were the only ones up for a little late night ball in the hotel. His commitment is admirable. Okay, now this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_rib5nD5P0

    The play at 1:51 is one of my favorites, and the accuracy at the 3:00 play is pretty amazing. My problem is that he has WIDE open receivers ALL the time. We see in the video he can made the force passes accurately, but these are highlights; how OFTEN does he do it? Keep reading and you'll see he's pretty inconsistent. He does have instincts. The thing that I love about it is that his offensive line looks horrible, doesn't it? I want to know if he waits for it to break down or it's that bad. He looks like he has great presence and wonderful agility. He stays looking down field, but can he spot a receiver open like that if they're not WIDE open?

    This is a guy I'd definitely like if I had a bad offensive line and maybe a couple of weapons around him that will get open, he's proven he can do that. But Marshall doesn't get a whole lot of space, as we see Cutler always FORCING it in and Marshall's true ability is what he does after the catch. Although Royal, on the other hand, is adept at creating holes in the defense.

    Okay. After further review he cannot seem to make the accurate throws consistently. Watching a full game of highlights, he throws high pretty often. Too inconsistent. Also, it seems he can only make one real read before checking it down. For a guy that spent some time on the bench before finally starting in his third season this is a problem.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNwVf...eature=related
    Matt Stafford
    The offense looks very pro style. Also remember that his competition is the SEC, the highest level of week-by-week competition you're going to find in college football. We both know he has killer arm strength. Like Sanchez, his throws can be off from time to time. The difference I have noticed is that Sanchez ducks his throws when he's got time to think about it, as opposed to being pressured into throwing. Sanchez does BETTER when he has to react instead of think about it.

    The Cutler comparisons aren't too far off. When given time, his passer style is virtually a mirror image of Cutler. However, as Broncos fans we're familiar with Jay's ability to work well under pressure. Even going back and looking at college highlights of both quarterbacks, Cutler stands tall in the pocket despite pressure and gets it off in the nick of time. Since Cutler has been in the NFL, he has one of the best passer ratings in the league when being pressured. However, when I see Stafford under similar pressure he tends to make bad decisions. Jay's bad decisions come from an over-estimate of his arm strength, and it usually has less to do with the pressure. Going back to Jay's collegiate highlights (as if necessary), even then he forced (and got many) passes that he shouldn't have. Stafford also lacks the mobility Sanchez and Cutler have.

    The point I'm trying to make is that Stafford will not duplicate Jay's success. Also, remember that the running back that Stafford has in his backfield (and the intense number of screens thrown to backs and wide outs). Georgia versus Vanderbilt is no comparison. Denver would be a good fit for him, however, because of the good protection we could give him.
    Josh Freeman
    Kid from Kansas State. He has an arm (actually I think he has two). While it doesn't match the kind that Stafford has, he makes up for it in mobility and accuracy. He is even VERY accurate while being mobile. This is where I may lose some of you, but there is an intangible I cannot place that leads me to believe that although he is solid all-around I do not think he is going to experience success at the next level.
    Nate Davis
    At 6'2" he has solid arm strength. The catch is that in order to get any power behind it he stretches his body low and has a low release point. I have trouble believing the hype behind Davis. Admittedly, finding game film/highlights on him is hard to find. There's not much to base my opinion on.
    Chase Daniel
    After putting forth a stellar 2007 campaign his performance last year was average. At 6'0" he is pretty short for an NFL quarterback. Drew Brees might be somebody he looks to for finding success at the next level. He had Jeremy Maclin to throw to in college, a consensus first round wide receiver. During college he ran a shotgun-spread base formation, making him a difficult fit for most teams. He would be best served as a backup for a team running the spread offense, and a good one at that, in my opinion.
    Pat White
    This may surprise some people, but I think that Pat White could have success at the next level as a quarterback. Of course that means a team would have to draft him as such, and commit to building a system that compliments his strengths. But since he's going to be a later round selection, he won't get a chance. He certainly doesn't fit what we're looking for.
    On final review, none of them come close to matching up with Cutler. Harrell is a cheap man's Brady and would be a nice fit for our offense and McDaniel's system. Painter has potential, but would have to ride the pine, and therefore is not a fit for us. Josh Freeman and Pat White do not match our system needs. Stafford mirrors Cutler in many ways, but lacks the presence to withstand pressure, while Jay has the ability to thrive when put in similar situations---making it a shame to think about replacing Cutler with Stafford. No comment on Nate Davis. Chase Daniel would serve as a very solid backup in time. There is a lot to like about Sanchez, but there are too many reasons to be concerned to cash in Cutler for the USC alum and some spare parts. Hope you enjoyed!

  • #2
    people are seriously underestimating Pat White. He absolutely rocked the combine, finishing tops in the passing drills, and made Sanchez, Stafford, et al look like rank amateurs. People knock him because of his size, but Drew Brees is about the same and look at his production.

    maybe he wont play QB, but he's truly versatile and almost impossible to tackle in the open field, the guy can fly. WR, QB, DB, KR, who knows where he'll end up, but one thing for sure: he will be an asset to any team that picks him up.

    another dark horse you didnt mention is Drew Willy, the only Univ at Buffalo player invited to the combine. He and Coach Turner Gill literally turned the UB program around from perennial loser to MAC champion. Willy fits the MCD/NE system almost perfect: poise, accurate arm, good decision maker and leader, and big. If he's still around in the 7th the Broncos could take him; he's miles above Hackney in ability and football smarts.

    Hell, if Pat White falls to mid-rounds somewhere Id take him because he's a game-breaker at whatever position he'll play in...

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    • #3
      Two intresting prospects to me are

      Mike Reilly, Central Washington

      3,706 yards, 37 touchdowns and only six picks as a senior.
      3,386 yards and 30 touchdowns, maintaining a completion percentage of 62.3 in 2007.


      Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas

      10,558 yards and 100 touchdown in his career

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      • #4
        If we trade Cutler, I would be very happy with either Stafford or Sanchez in the 1st. If we wait I want Graham Harrell to be the guy!

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        • #5
          Josh Freeman

          Quote:
          Kid from Kansas State. He has an arm (actually I think he has two). While it doesn't match the kind that Stafford has, he makes up for it in mobility and accuracy. He is even VERY accurate while being mobile. This is where I may lose some of you, but there is an intangible I cannot place that leads me to believe that although he is solid all-around I do not think he is going to experience success at the next level.


          Don't get it twisted that is exactly what Freeman wants to here, feed the fire.
          sigpic WHEC-724

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          • #6
            Regardless of what happens with the Cutler mess, I think picking up Mike Reilly from Central Washington is a good idea. He should last until the 7th rd
            and would be better than any defensive fodder at that point of the draft.

            He threw 118 td's and 40 int's over his college career. His junior year he played at Washington State and threw 30 td's and 10 int's. He is a West Coast prototype that should have an NFL future.

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            • #7
              I think MCD believes he can get a late round QB (Reilly) and turn him into a Pro Bowler. There are certain things you can't coach, but most you can. IMO he'll look into the late rounds and and transform into starter material, just like Brady and Cassel were.

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              • #8
                This years QB class isn't as weak as people claim, IMO.

                I like Freeman the most. Then Sanchez, I'm split between Stafford and White.
                Stafford has the experience and the "look" of a NFL QB, but Pat White constantly
                over impresses. After that, it's a crapshot with all system players that depend
                on where they go. There are some really good system guys though, if you run
                a spread like offense or a West coast system you can easily find a possible
                back-up or future decent starter in the mid to late rounds.
                Club Leader: Robert Griffin III > Andrew Luck

                ^^^Get used to it.^^^

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                • #9
                  I would love to see Sanchez in a Broncos Uniform. Young and Impressionable....just the way McDaniels likes them.
                  New England Patriots GM

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                  • #10
                    I personally wouldnt mind seeing Rhett Bomar in here if things with Cutler doesnt work out.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by utebroncofan View Post
                      I personally wouldnt mind seeing Rhett Bomar in here if things with Cutler doesnt work out.
                      Mayock has him as his 4th best QB, so he i think would be a great pick up in the 4th or 5th!
                      Winner of the 2012 Broncomania GM game

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by utebroncofan View Post
                        I personally wouldnt mind seeing Rhett Bomar in here if things with Cutler doesnt work out.
                        No thanks

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                        • #13
                          One of these players taken in the late rounds would be my choice

                          1. Chase Daniels
                          2. Curtis Painter
                          3. David Johnson

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                          • #14
                            If Jay leaves Denver, the QB choice in the Draft would have to be one with the potential to step up to starting position soon - cause I don´t think we would get a real good one in a trade for the starting job - and with a high development perspective.
                            Such a guy won´t be available in the late rounds, IMO it would have to be either Stafford or Harrell.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DURANGO BRONCO View Post
                              Regardless of what happens with the Cutler mess, I think picking up Mike Reilly from Central Washington is a good idea. ...

                              He is a West Coast prototype that should have an NFL future.
                              Problem is, we're not going to be a West Coast offense anymore. McDaniels' system will be quite a bit different.
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