QB this draft, next draft, or not at all?

[Kilroy]

I really hope Sanchez isn't out of the question.

I can't think of another move that could potentially quiet the clamor over the Cutler trade than to draft Mark Sanchez, and if need be, move up to get him.

The hope is Denver is never drafting inside the top ten, so waiting til next year is only hoping the Broncos stink this year, which I do not.

The time is now, today, two weeks, whatever. Denver has the ammo to move on the very real need to put a franchise QB in that gaping hole vacated by Jay Cutler.

I feel Mark Sanchez can be that guy, and with an Orton and Simms on the roster, the pressure to play immediately is greatly lessened until the kid can get some seasoning.

The time is now. The Broncos have the ability to make it happen, and they will rue the day they let this opportunity slip on by. The Bears know, they let it go for 50 years.

OMG!!!!!!!!!! Sanchez is obviously out of the question....facts...

1) we recieved a QB to replace Cultler ... whether Denver fans like this or not, Chicago was chosen for a reason..... I could see trading for Detroits 2 first round picks if we were going the "Sanchez" route. Or maybe even Cleveland/ Minnesota deals, but MCD/Bowlen(whoever is running the team cause i can't tell) chose Chicago and Orton..

2) Denver is already overpaying Simms.... we did trade for Orton to release him/ trade him and taking sanchez will only equal a totally gratuitous use of cap space in this stage of the game. pls bear in mind Denver only has about 16 mil of cap space at their disposal for how many draft picks?

3) Dener has signed a whopping 1 for sure defensive starter to fill the many many voids at defense.


So i say again...... to anyone still in the pipedream of picking up any QB, Sanchez or Stafford, in the first round....... sorry maybe next year. Root for Stafford in his Detroit uniform and Sanchez in his San Fran uniform.

[Runner]

It's not a pipedream, and there is no tomorrow. The Broncos have the position and the resources to get a franchise QB on board now.

There are no assurances they will have that chance again anytime in the near future, unless you could see the Broncos trading BOTH 1st rounders next year to move up for one of the premier players coming out in 2010, and that's assuming there are any takers.

There are takers this year. Everything I have read indicated that any one of the top ten teams would be willing to trade away their draft position.

Of course, Denver already rejected the Lions pick at #1, and money issues might prevent a run at #2-5, but anyone after that might be in a mood to deal, and Denver should get it done. Now.

[Kilroy]

It's not a pipedream, and there is no tomorrow. The Broncos have the position and the resources to get a franchise QB on board now.

There are no assurances they will have that chance again anytime in the near future, unless you could see the Broncos trading BOTH 1st rounders next year to move up for one of the premier players coming out in 2010, and that's assuming there are any takers.

There are takers this year. Everything I have read indicated that any one of the top ten teams would be willing to trade away their draft position.

Of course, Denver already rejected the Lions pick at #1, and money issues might prevent a run at #2-5, but anyone after that might be in a mood to deal, and Denver should get it done. Now.

too bad the QB class this year is weak.....

you stated it in your post... "Everything I have read indicated that any one of the top ten teams would be willing to trade away their draft position." there is a reason for this.... it not coicidence.... no one wants sanchez.....

I say and this is just my opinion but even if Sanchez falls to 12 Denver will pass..... the only way they even take a second look is if he's still there at 18 and even then Denver must ask themselves y no other team wants this guy?

And i am not trying to be a jerk here... but i am so glad you do not run the Denver Broncos. wasteing over 15 mil cap space on 3 question marks is bad football. I am having a hard of a time with 2

But just to support your point and prove i don't hate Sanchez... he could be great... of that there is not doubt... but 3 players at that position that could be great is just to big a gamble. And letting either Orton or Simms go at this stage is not possible.

[RickyVoorhees]

Unless Josh Freeman is there at 18 or Pat White is there for us in the 3-4 I dont think we'll draft one til next year.

[Sequence]

Orton and Simms should compete for the starting job. A quarterback shouldn't be drafted any earlier than the 3rd round.

I agree. :salute!: Drafting a QB any higher would send a negative message by management to Orton and Simms (and the whole team?) that maybe they're not good enough.

And the team certainly doesnt need that right now...

Go with what we have--both should thrive in this system--and draft one the NE way in the 6th or 7th round (Drew Willy is my pick) and go from there.

[Sequence]

I'm all for giving Orton the starting job and giving him the tools to be successful. Let him work with the first team exclusively and get his timing down with them. Besides wasting a valuable pick, drafting a "franchise" QB would undermine the offense as there is a constant guessing game as to who will be under center from week to week and can hurt the rapport with his supporting cast.

What? A voice of reason and logic on this forum??

I agree 100%. I have a feeling that if McD drafts any QB, it wont be any earlier than round 3, but I think more rounds 6 or 7, the NE way. Drew Willy!

[broncolee]

Mark Sanchez' own coach said he wasn't ready and his coach is a pretty damn good college head coach.

I read an article on espn.com that explained how risky it is to take a junior or 3rd year sophomore out of college. The numbers aren't good. Most quarterbacks that come out after 3 years fail. Sanchez has barely more than one season as a starter. The Trojans' offense wasn't always very productive and he was part of the reason for that.

To those that think the Broncos can or should move into the top ten, whether it's to get Sanchez or anyone else, it isn't as easy as some make it out to be. It's not very often that teams move out of the top ten. The Denver Post has an article that suggests the Broncos could make a trade with Jacksonville. I don't think they can because Jacksonville is one of the teams that is a threat to take Sanchez and on top of that, the article also states that they would be interested in Orakpo, a definite top ten pick. Why would the Jaguars give up a shot at one of those two players to make a trade with the Broncos? Teams that are picking in the top ten are doing so for a reason. Usually that reason is because those teams aren't very good. It's going to take a lot of motivation for them to give up the opportunity to choose among the most talented players in the draft.

The Broncos don't need a quarterback. Orton is a proved winner and Simms has shown that he can lead a team to the playoffs. They are far better off fixing the defense and special teams. What happens if the Broncos take Sanchez and then Orton proves to be better than anyone thought? If McDaniels didn't believe in Orton, I don't think he would have taken him. He would have likely taken the offer from the Redskins or another team. When the Broncos put Cutler on the block, it was reported that they did not insist on a quarterback as part of the deal. When given the choice between Jason Campbell and Kyle Orton, McDaniels chose Orton. If they didn't require a quarterback to begin with, why take one they don't believe in?

If McDaniels was even considering that he could quite possibly win with Matt Cassel instead of Jay Cutler, why wouldn't he think he can win with Kyle Orton? It makes no sense that he would draft a quarterback in the first round. It would be almost like what Shanahan did to Jake Plummer after the Broncos went to the AFCCG. Who drafts a quarterback in the first round after you just went to the AFCCG? Not that I was complaining at the time, but the fact is, it just doesn't happen. So why would McDaniels draft a quarterback in the first round after taking Orton in a trade when he didn't even necessarily want a quarterback in return? There has to be a reason why he wanted Orton. It has to be because he thinks Orton can help the team win games.

[Zealander]

And then what?
Wait 2-3 more years to develop him?
I'd say get Sanchez if we can, and start working with him while Orton shows us if he can handle the job
If not Sanchez, Harrel, Bomar or Painter in this year's draft
The more we wait to take a QB, the longer is going to take to turn him into a starter. Our offense is young and talented, and we can't take a chance of losing our best players to FA while we're d.icking around waiting for the next "franchise QB"

For a number of reasons I think taking Sanchez is a terrible idea;

If we trade traded Cutler to take a guy like Sanchez, we have lost out and the trade looks stupid. Mark doesn't have nearly the upside or ceiling Cutler had. (Yes, "had", he's borderline dead now).

If we take Sanchez, we are likely going to have to trade up, decreasing value.

He's simply not the franchise QB we want, if we wait until next year we have got a plethora of QB's with more talent that we can choose from. Not only that, we will be able to nab one with less of a commitment (being many of them). The USC system quarterback isn't the answer, that team is so head and shoulders above with talent than everyone else that every player looks better than they will preform in the NFL. You get no stand outs.

Yes, lets let Orton and Simms take us this year. Draft a QB next year and let him develop. You don't set a time line on how long you sit a drafted "franchise" QB. You let him learn and compete with the guys around, and when you feel he's ready to usurp the mantle... in he goes. We have two serviceable QB's if McDaniels can do what is advertized, he can manage an offense with the guys we have now. It is more important (and the incoming QB will have better transition) if you develop the team into something successful, before we plug in a QB.

Sanchez just is not the answer. I will cry orange and blue years if I see he's a first round pick for us. I will cry for the city of Denver and the mistake we have made with our new coach (until that time, I have faith). We cannot settle on our QB predicament. We have to hold the cards now and let the chips fall when we have the best hand. This round is too early.

[broncofansd]

Well it's kind of hard to tell.

I say no QB this year, see how Orton and Simms do, then decide.

I am going to have to agree with Housemouse. Orton might be the steal of this trade. Remember Steve Young on Tampa Bay???? He wasn't that good. Put him on a team with alot of talent.

Denver's Offense is Excellent


Offensive Line = I wouldn't trade ours for anyone's in the NFL.
WR's = Marshall , Royal , Stokley Gaffney are very good. Stokley is getting a little old and Concussions are starting to be a problem.

RB's = Buckhalter , Arrington , Jordan , Hillis should get the job done.

TE's = Very good Scheffler and Graham.

If Orton sucks this year then Colt McCoy , Sam Bradford , Tim Tebow , Sam Snead next year.

Unless Mark Sanchez falls into our laps at 12 , I doubt Denver does anything.

[dragster69]

For a number of reasons I think taking Sanchez is a terrible idea;

If we trade traded Cutler to take a guy like Sanchez, we have lost out and the trade looks stupid. Mark doesn't have nearly the upside or ceiling Cutler had. (Yes, "had", he's borderline dead now).

If we take Sanchez, we are likely going to have to trade up, decreasing value.

He's simply not the franchise QB we want, if we wait until next year we have got a plethora of QB's with more talent that we can choose from. Not only that, we will be able to nab one with less of a commitment (being many of them). The USC system quarterback isn't the answer, that team is so head and shoulders above with talent than everyone else that every player looks better than they will preform in the NFL. You get no stand outs.

Yes, lets let Orton and Simms take us this year. Draft a QB next year and let him develop. You don't set a time line on how long you sit a drafted "franchise" QB. You let him learn and compete with the guys around, and when you feel he's ready to usurp the mantle... in he goes. We have two serviceable QB's if McDaniels can do what is advertized, he can manage an offense with the guys we have now. It is more important (and the incoming QB will have better transition) if you develop the team into something successful, before we plug in a QB.

Sanchez just is not the answer. I will cry orange and blue years if I see he's a first round pick for us. I will cry for the city of Denver and the mistake we have made with our new coach (until that time, I have faith). We cannot settle on our QB predicament. We have to hold the cards now and let the chips fall when we have the best hand. This round is too early.

Sanchez is an enigma. Potentially he could turn out a good QB under McDaniels, if his past performance is an indication
I don't see Sanchez as to what he did at USC, but as the type of QB that would fit under McDaniels system, and if McDaniels can work his magic. I'm not sold on Orton or Simms to be our solution now or later

I've said we would take Sanchez if he lands at #12, but not trade up to get him, and you're right, there will be a lot to be said if we get him in the 1st round given what went on with Cutler, and getting Orton
I'll be curious to know a more specific answer about the subject from Mcdaniels. All he's said so far is he'd take the best available player for a position they're looking to fill. Would a QB be a needed position?

Ultimately, two top defense players in the 1st round would do it for me. Harrel and Bomar as middle round QB's would be ideal