Obvious selection?

[Papa-pwn]

Now I know there is by no means any such thing as a 'lock', but who do you think is nearly a lock to be drafted by the Broncos?

Who do you think will be the highest priority (assuming this player is there)to McD and X at 12 and 18?

Personally I think Knowshon Moreno is a safe bet to be our pick at 12 or 18, and would be a wise pick at either spot, but that's just me.

Though, if Raji is there at 12, I consider him a lock.


What are your thoughts?

[Den615]

Tyson Jackson at 12
Moreno or Maualuga at 18

Put it in the bank...lol:go:

[Bernie24]

12. B.J. Raji
18. Moreno, Jackson, or Maualuga

That'd be sweet.

[broncos SB2010]

Raji, Moreno, or Malcolm Jenkins.

Jackson is a lock to be NOT picked.

[Den615]

Raji, Moreno, or Malcolm Jenkins.

Jackson is a lock to be NOT picked.

I think you are going to be seriously disappointed come saturday.

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

I think Tyson Jackson is a lock to be picked at one of our two 1st round spots, I'm hoping its 18th.

I believe Moreno is likely at the other spot, but not a lock.

[Joshecalpoly]

I think Tyson Jackson is a lock to be picked at one of our two 1st round spots, I'm hoping its 18th.

I believe Moreno is likely at the other spot, but not a lock.

I keep hearing you praise Moreno I dont know if I am starting to ware down or getting more sick of it.

To be honest I was watching some video of him and I am impressed. Impressed by how amazing that Georgia blocking scheme is. Yes he is good but I cant help but be amazed how good his blocking was. This is a good example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wRfHpzdmg8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eaKxgc9xtA

I also think that defenses were spread out to prevent the pass and the run. I am not sold on Stafford with Moreno in the background either.

Yes Moreno is good but he had some of the best blockers in the game. I am not 100% convinced with those same blockers other backs wouldnt look equally impressive.

On the plus he knows the zone blocking scheme so if we keep that then he will be a quick learner.

Moore isnt a bad blocker in the 7th round.
Antone Smith can make nothing into something and hes strong. In the 5th or 4th he is good. They can shoot the gaps but for the most part they tend to run outside of course most of the time they had no choice.

I cant find anything on Josh Vaughan so i cant say how i feel.

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

I keep hearing you praise Moreno I dont know if I am starting to ware down or getting more sick of it.

To be honest I was watching some video of him and I am impressed. Impressed by how amazing that Georgia blocking scheme is. Yes he is good but I cant help but be amazed how good his blocking was. This is a good example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wRfHpzdmg8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eaKxgc9xtA

I also think that defenses were spread out to prevent the pass and the run. I am not sold on Stafford with Moreno in the background either.

Yes Moreno is good but he had some of the best blockers in the game. I am not 100% convinced with those same blockers other backs wouldnt look equally impressive.

On the plus he knows the zone blocking scheme so if we keep that then he will be a quick learner.

Moore isnt a bad blocker in the 7th round.
Antone Smith can make nothing into something and hes strong. In the 5th or 4th he is good. They can shoot the gaps but for the most part they tend to run outside of course most of the time they had no choice.

I cant find anything on Josh Vaughan so i cant say how i feel.

I don't know if you can say he had some of the best blockers in the game, most analysts agree the Georgia line was one of the worst in college. Georgia started mostly freshman this entire season due to injuries. Jamie Dukes was just talking about this on NFLN Total Access *Tonight* (April 21st, Total Access), how with a terrible O-line, Moreno and Stafford did what they did. He couldn't believe it and called both guys amazing.


Here's a Sports Illustrated article detailing the struggles and injuries of Georgia's O-line:

Most important, Georgia's line, which plagued the team last season, could be its biggest offensive asset this year. In '08, the Bulldogs lost starting left tackle Trinton Sturdivant to a torn ACL in preseason camp, Kiante Tripp to a bum ankle three weeks into the season and Vince Vance to a torn ACL and injured MCL in Week 6. Georgia's longest streak with an intact line was four games.

The shuffling resulted in Clint Boling playing every position but center, freshmen Cordy Glenn and Ben Jones starting 10 games and fellow frosh Justin Anderson seven. Thanks to that unanticipated experience, Georgia's offensive line should be among the best in the SEC, barring another streak of bad luck. Eight players have started at least four games, and the toughest assignment for offensive coordinator Mike Bobo and O-line coach Stacy Searels could be figuring out which five guys to feature.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/cory_mccartney/04/20/georgia-offense/index.html

[Joshecalpoly]

Ok I guess you have a point but on video it looked like it was a product of a good blocking scheme.

[Papa-pwn]

Better watch those highlights again if you think it looks like good blocking...

On just about every highlight run, the storys like this; Moreno gets the ball with a defender in his face, then cut cut cut and he's escaped, but then oh no, there's another defender about to tackle him for a loss! He's surely screwed since his line let them through.. But noooo, he runs into the defender, shakes him and cuts back and forth inbetween the remaining defenders. Touchdown.

Now that's a typical Moreno highlight.

[DenverSpark]

I just can't seem to get on the Moreno hype. I've watched alot of film on the kid, but he just seems average to me. His speed isn't very impressive, but he can stay on his feet.

I dunno though. I think an obvious choice at 12 is Raji, and at 18 it's Jackson or Maualuga.

[elevation INC]

last year it was clear clady was the choice at 12 a month prior

this year for about a month its been clear that tyson jackson is the choice for pick 12

at 18 i would say moreno/donald brown or a pass rusher like E brown or Larry english

[broncofansd]

If Bj Raji is gone then I completely agree that Knowshon Moreno is the safest pick.


Tyson Jackson is he really alot better than Marcus Thomas and Kenny Peterson??? He hasn't played a down in the NFL.

Everette Brown = 1 trick pony = great pass rusher but has never played OLB.

[elevation INC]

If Bj Raji is gone then I completely agree that Knowshon Moreno is the safest pick.


Tyson Jackson is he really alot better than Marcus Thomas and Kenny Peterson??? He hasn't played a down in the NFL.

Everette Brown = 1 trick pony = great pass rusher but has never played OLB.

you change your mind on a hourly basis to fit the mainline picks on the draft forum.....i have long since stopped putting any value in what ya say. I mean seriously just a few weeks ago you were against moreno and raji, and every otehr pick that wasnt posted on one of your daily mock drafts

as for jackson being like peterson and thomas? well jackson is first rd talent thomas and peterson never were. peterson did okay in rotation the past couple years but he is not great starter. thomas has never played a down at DE in the 3-4 effectively, and has yet to make steady improvement from year to year

in my mind jackson is no greater a wildcard that playing peterson and marcus thomas full time at DE for the 3-4. not to mention.... i doubt thomas and peterson can play a effective power end role in the 4-3 hybrid looks like jackson can.

so jackson not only gives us versatility he gives us a elite 5 technique player, something thomas and peterson arent....they are projects just as much as getting jackson at 12 or 18. problem is our defense needs improved talent all over, passing on jackson would be foolish.....

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

last year it was clear clady was the choice at 12 a month prior

this year for about a month its been clear that tyson jackson is the choice for pick 12

at 18 i would say moreno/donald brown or a pass rusher like E brown or Larry english

I'm not sure I agree with that Einc.

Clady was fully expected to go to the Chiefs or another team and be long gone when we picked. I completely agree that OT was going to be our #1 choice, most of us just thought it would be Chris Williams or Brandon Albert. Clady was the dream pick and he somehow slipped.

I'd compare him to BJ Raji in that regard. We aren't mocking Raji because there's no way he should slip to us, but if he does, he's the pick and we are all happy.

I think your statement would be more accurate stating that its clear that D-line will be the choice at #12. I know that if Raji is gone as is likely, that probably means Tyson Jackson, but Brian Orakpo is sliding down now too, along with Everette Brown and I just can't fathom Jackson being worth the #12 selection. He's clearly not the 12th best player in this draft. I don't even think he's within the 20th best players, though I could see and understand us reaching for him at #18.

San Diego is very likely going to take Knowshon Moreno or Rey Maualuga. AJ Smith always takes the best available player. That's going to be Moreno, Tomlinson's only year to year now anyway. If we take Moreno, they'll take Maualuga. They aren't going to take Tyson Jackson, and if they don't, there is no other team in the Top 20 that will even consider him. The Jets probably would, but they have more pressing needs at QB (Freeman), RB (Moreno), TE (Pettigrew), WR (Maclin, Bey) then taking Tyson Jackson. Plus, Rex Ryan gave an interview where he said Brian Schottenheimer would kill him if he took a defensive player in the 1st Round. Brian is the Offensive Coordinator.


So, I think we can take Tyson Jackson at #12 and lose out on Moreno for sure, as well as some other talented options like Jenkins, Ayers, Maualuga, or Freeman) OR we could take that other option and take Jackson at #18.


I still think Moreno will clearly be the best available player at #12 by a mile. And even if our team LOVES Tyson Jackson, there is nobody between 13-17 that is going to draft him. The only concern would be NE, which has a ton of draft picks and Seymour being a Free Agent next year, might move up to nab him, but if they intend to resign Seymour, there's no need. But that's the only risk I see of just waiting until #18 to grab Jackson.