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**sage** · 04-22-2009, 08:21 AM

Pretty Good Mock

1: BJ
-I'm keeping my fingers crossed he's there at #12. If not, you have us taking Rush OLB prospects? With Doom, Moss, Crowder and Reid all competing for one starting spot; do we need to draft a rush OLB at all?
1: Moreno
-Great RB that would make an immediate impact.
2: Smith
-A great pick in the 2nd. I ranked the CBs Butler(1), Harris(2), S.Smith(2), A.Smith(1-2)
3: Moala
-I'm not sold on either your USC DLmen. They're both weak and slow.
3: Martin
-My favorite FS in this draft and a great pick. Could also be our Nickle back.
4: Follett
-Both your LBs are ILB-prospects, but do we need to draft this position?
5: Moore
6: Williams
7: Swain
7: Pryor
-Both good 7th Rnd projects

**dragster69** · 04-22-2009, 08:33 AM

Pat White?
Give me a freakin' break. Why do people insist on us drafting a 6-0 190lbs QB?
Can somebody please tell me why do we need to waste a pick on that guy?
Do you really see the Broncos heading into the future with Pat White as our QB?!!!
This is utterly ridiculous!!!!

**KWHIT97** · 04-22-2009, 08:38 AM

1 last mock!!!

After months of anticipation, evaluating, complaining, optimism, and countless man-hours on these boards the time is finally near.

The draft is this weekend and all the specualtion can stop at 4pm EST on Saturday. But I figured I'd get one last mock in and tell everyone what I really feel the Broncos are going to do this weekend, so here it goes!

1. OLB Everette Brown (Florida St.)
I really think the Broncos are going to stay put. They may try and trade up for Raji but won't want to pay the asking price. McD will be ecstatic that the best pure stand up pass-rusher in this draft is available and will not hesitate to draft him. Brown will be a beast off the weak side for many years!

1. DE Tyson Jackson (L.S.U.)
McD was between Brown and Jackson at #12 and is ecstatic that his other choice is there at 18. It may be a bit of a stretch to say Jackson gets to 18 but if he does this pick is automatic. If Jackson does not make it there then we'll put Robert Ayers in this spot.

2. CB Darius Butler (UCONN)
This is about where he should go and would be nice value at 48. Butler could groom behind Champ, he has the tools to be a shutdown corner in 2 or 3 years.

3. DT Fili Moala (USC)
McDaniels continues to adress the front 7 as many anticipated. Not sure if Moala is a better fit at NT or DE in the 3-4, all I know is he will add some much needed beef up front. Once projected as a 1st round prospect, he has the tools to be dominant, if the light ever comes on he could be the steal of this draft!

3. C Jonathan Luigs (Ark.)
I think it's odvious that McD is looking for an interior lineman at some point and Luigs would be a nice pick here. He has the ability to be the anchor in the middle for years to come and the versatility to play a little Guard if need be.

4. ILB Jasper Brinkley (South Car.)
We really need a run-stuffer in the middle of this defense and after missing out on Maualuga in the 1st we get the next best thing in Brinkley. He has an injury history but has 1st day talent. He would fit nicely beside DJ on the inside!

5. NT Roy Miller (Texas)
Considered by some as a true NT. He could provide a stop-gap until we find our future NT or he may surprise and take the job for himself.

6. TE Richard Quinn (UNC)
I really like this guy and think he fits the Daniel Graham mold to a T. He can block, catch, and get down field. He is a little bit of a project but may be a starter in 2 or 3 years.

7. RB Aaron Brown (TCU)
You just knew there was going to be a RB in here somewhere. I really see this kid being a steal and a nice pick up for us. He's got the speed and the toughness, if he can bulk up we may have something here.

7. WR Kevin Ogletree (Virginia)
I just see McDaniels taking a WR at some point and I really think Ogletree fits what he'll want to do on offense as a #4 or #5 reciever. May be used as a PR id the need arises.

I also speculate that we will get a late-round developmental QB at some point, I just couldn't fit one into my mock so I'll go the UDFA route and say we sign Drew Willy out of Buffalo. He has the tools and if he holds a clipboard for a couple of years could be starting material.

This is my last mock before the real thing. I really think I've covered all needs and would be stoked if McDaniels drafted somewhat similiar to this.

What do ya'll think?

**sage** · 04-22-2009, 09:07 AM

1: Brown
-A great player and starter, but do we need to draft a rush OLB?
1: Jackson
-Solid DE, but I'd rather take the stronger and better pass-rushing Hood.
2: Butler
-Starter this year or next. If unavailable, V.Harris or S.Smith would be good picks.
3: Moala
-Not sold on this weak and slow DE. USC's defense made him look better then he is.
3: Luigs
-A real need and future starter.
4: Brinkley
-Great player and pick that could also compete at rush OLB.
5: Miller
-Good hustle and depth and could start at NT in a year or two.
6-7: Don't know these guys but they sound like good depth/projects

**MindField** · 04-22-2009, 09:26 AM

My Mock > Your Mock...

Assuming no trades...I also am projecting players that will be available when the Broncos select, and that do fit the team's stated plans.

1.) (#12) ILB Rey Maualuga, USC 6'3"-255
Maualuga gives the defense an identity and a nasty, physical presence...something that has been missing since the days that Al Wilson was in his prime. I don't buy into the garbage that he can't play three downs, and his intangibles are potentially off the charts. I also see him as a great fit for a hybrid 4-3/3-4 defense. Ideally, the Broncos can trade down a bit to say #15 with Houston, pick up another selection, and take Maualuga there...
before San Diego has a chance to snap him up at 16. If you don't like Maualuga now, try him on for size playing in the middle of the Chargers defense for the next decade. I guarantee you will like him less.

1.) (#18) NT Ron Brace, Boston College 6'3"-335
A reach at #18 you say? I say SO WHAT!!! Do you want a capable NT, or don't you?! The 3-4 is built on having a block of granite in the middle at NT. Ron Brace is a two gap run defender first, and is just what the Broncos need for this defense, and is actually a better fit on the nose than BJ Raji. If you line Brace up in front of Maualuga and DJ Williams, you won't make a living running on the Denver Broncos, period. If you want to be a great defense, you build up the middle first, and strive to stop the run. With Maualuga and Brace as the first two picks, when added to DJ Williams and Brian Dawkins I say, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!

Bottom line: I do what I have to do to come away with Ron Brace in this draft, even if it means 'reaching' at 18.

Trust me, you are not reaching any less for an Everette Brown or the like.

2.) OLB Lawrence Sidbury, Richmond 6'3"-265
A big man that is also a very good athlete for his size, which translates to a 3-4 OLB. He can rush the passer and has the athleticism to drop into coverage. A strong, versatile player that will be a great strong side rusher. He is also a good character kid with a strong work ethic.

3.) CB Keenan Lewis, Oregon St 6'0"-205
A bigger corner that can play the nickle and could eventually start. A very under-rated player
that had a strong game in the Oregon St upset of USC. He also comes well versed in pass defense hailing from the pass-happy Pac-10. Could also move inside to safety, making him a very flexible defender in multiple DB sets.

3.) C Antoine Caldwell, Alabama 6'3"-308
As nasty and physical as a OC can come. When he and Andre Smith were on their game last season, the Tide was rolling up it's opponents, and dominating the LOS...they simply had no peer. The kid is tough and nasty, and would instantly bring a much needed dose of physical play to the O-Line, obliterrating the finese style our former Head Coach preferred.

4.) CB Brandon Hughes, Oregon St 5'10"-182
Like his teammate at Oregon St, Keenen Lewis, Hughes is a vastly under-rated player. They also come from a program run by a former NFL head Coach in Mike Reilly. I think this will make them better prepared for the NFL, and Hughes is the perfect compliment for the bigger Lewis, and is one of the faster CB's in the draft, running in the 4.3 range, yet is not 5'8".

I will update the rest later...

**MindField** · 04-22-2009, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by dragster69 View Post

Pat White?
Give me a freakin' break. Why do people insist on us drafting a 6-0 190lbs QB?
Can somebody please tell me why do we need to waste a pick on that guy?
Do you really see the Broncos heading into the future with Pat White as our QB?!!!
This is utterly ridiculous!!!!

Beacuse his intangilbes are off the charts.

No, ideally, he is not what you want at QB as a starter, but he can be a great backup that can win you games when your starter goes down, and for teams that run the 'Wildcat', he would be a fantastic addition. I personally hope he lands in Miami.

Alot like what Rodney Peete or Doug Flutie did, and all they did was produce and win games when they were called upon.

But rest easy, someone is going to over-draft him, probably in the second round.

**Eliminatrix** · 04-22-2009, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by MindField View Post

My Mock > Your Mock...

Assuming no trades...I also am projecting players that will be available when the Broncos select, and that do fit the team's stated plans.

1.) (#12) ILB Rey Maualuga, USC 6'3"-255
Maualuga gives the defense an identity and a nasty, physical presence...something that has been missing since the days that Al Wilson was in his prime. I don't buy into the garbage that he can't play three downs, and his intangibles are potentially off the charts. I also see him as a great fit for a hybrid 4-3/3-4 defense. Ideally, the Broncos can trade down a bit to say #15 with Houston, pick up another selection, and take Maualuga there...
before San Diego has a chance to snap him up at 16. If you don't like Maualuga now, try him on for size playing in the middle of the Chargers defense for the next decade. I guarantee you will like him less.

1.) (#18) NT Ron Brace, Boston College 6'3"-335
A reach at #18 you say? I say SO WHAT!!! Do you want a capable NT, or don't you?! The 3-4 is built on having a block of granite in the middle at NT. Ron Brace is a two gap run defender first, and is just what the Broncos need for this defense, and is actually a better fit on the nose than BJ Raji. If you line Brace up in front of Maualuga and DJ Williams, you won't make a living running on the Denver Broncos, period. If you want to be a great defense, you build up the middle first, and strive to stop the run. With Maualuga and Brace as the first two picks, when added to DJ Williams and Brian Dawkins I say, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!

Bottom line: I do what I have to do to come away with Ron Brace in this draft, even if it means 'reaching' at 18.

Trust me, you are not reaching any less for an Everette Brown or the like.

2.) OLB Lawrence Sidbury, Richmond 6'3"-265
A big man that is also a very good athlete for his size, which translates to a 3-4 OLB. He can rush the passer and has the athleticism to drop into coverage. A strong, versatile player that will be a great strong side rusher. He is also a good character kid with a strong work ethic.

3.) CB Keenan Lewis, Oregon St 6'0"-205
A bigger corner that can play the nickle and could eventually start. A very under-rated player
that had a strong game in the Oregon St upset of USC. He also comes well versed in pass defense hailing from the pass-happy Pac-10. Could also move inside to safety, making him a very flexible defender in multiple DB sets.

3.) C Antoine Caldwell, Alabama 6'3"-308
As nasty and physical as a OC can come. When he and Andre Smith were on their game last season, the Tide was rolling up it's opponents, and dominating the LOS...they simply had no peer. The kid is tough and nasty, and would instantly bring a much needed dose of physical play to the O-Line, obliterrating the finese style our former Head Coach preferred.

4.) CB Brandon Hughes, Oregon St 5'10"-182
Like his teammate at Oregon St, Keenen Lewis, Hughes is a vastly under-rated player. They also come from a program run by a former NFL head Coach in Mike Reilly. I think this will make them better prepared for the NFL, and Hughes is the perfect compliment for the bigger Lewis, and is one of the faster CB's in the draft, running in the 4.3 range, yet is not 5'8".

I will update the rest later...

Worst pick ever, the only reason Brace is a second round prospect is because this is a weak DT draft class. He played next to a stud DT and still didn't put up even second round DT numbers.

Reaching in the draft is always a bad idea, besides Brace isn't even the next best NT I'd way rather have Peria Jerry, Evander Hood, or Jarron Gilbert. These are three way more dynamic NT.

Brace is a plug DT and you don't draft plugs in the first round, so glad you are not our GM. Thanks for trying though bud, come back next year and try again

**24TheCHAMP24** · 04-22-2009, 10:08 AM

No qb in your mock = incomplete

I will gaurentee you that at some point this weekend The denver broncos will select a qb. Most likely that will happen sometime Sunday.

**RickyVoorhees** · 04-22-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by sage View Post

1: BJ
-I'm keeping my fingers crossed he's there at #12. If not, you have us taking Rush OLB prospects? With Doom, Moss, Crowder and Reid all competing for one starting spot; do we need to draft a rush OLB at all?
1: Moreno
-Great RB that would make an immediate impact.
2: Smith
-A great pick in the 2nd. I ranked the CBs Butler(1), Harris(2), S.Smith(2), A.Smith(1-2)
3: Moala
-I'm not sold on either your USC DLmen. They're both weak and slow.
3: Martin
-My favorite FS in this draft and a great pick. Could also be our Nickle back.
4: Follett
-Both your LBs are ILB-prospects, but do we need to draft this position?
5: Moore
6: Williams
7: Swain
7: Pryor
-Both good 7th Rnd projects

Thanks I apreciate it, As far as drafing LB's I am not convinced in the least bit that Doom or Moss can play OLB. I think we need to keep Doom on the line even though he's undersized. He always has been. We just need to add someone on the other side that can put pressure on the QB as well. And the LB's I chose can flat out play. They had amazing SR years. And yet again I really don't like Davis at ILB either. I think that was a waste of money. Along with Buckhalter which I hope doesn't stop us from getting a guy like Moreno. One last thing. I chose Moala more as a run stopper than anything. . .

**RickyVoorhees** · 04-22-2009, 10:30 AM

One last note. If we drafted E. Brown from FSU I dont think he'll actually make the switch to OLB. Everything I have read said he can't play OLB and needs to put on a lil weight gain some strength and stay at DE. . .

**Al Wilson 4 Mayor** · 04-22-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by RickyVoorhees View Post

One last note. If we drafted E. Brown from FSU I dont think he'll actually make the switch to OLB. Everything I have read said he can't play OLB and needs to put on a lil weight gain some strength and stay at DE. . .

That could be a stretch in a 3-4 because the DE's all need to be in the 290 range.

The only DE I am really interested in in this draft is Jarron Gilbert. I think he is a much more impressive athlete than Tyson Jackson.

**tman24** · 04-22-2009, 10:52 AM

Yea since the qb class is so awesome.

**sage** · 04-22-2009, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Eliminatrix View Post

Worst pick ever, the only reason Brace is a second round prospect is because this is a weak DT draft class. He played next to a stud DT and still didn't put up even second round DT numbers.

Reaching in the draft is always a bad idea, besides Brace isn't even the next best NT I'd way rather have Peria Jerry, Evander Hood, or Jarron Gilbert. These are three way more dynamic NT.

Brace is a plug DT and you don't draft plugs in the first round...

I agree Brace is an immobile plugger, overrated in the 2nd Rnd and a huge reach in the 1st. There are plenty of other NTs that can occupy space against the run, but can't pressure the QB, without wasting a 1st Rnd pick.

I don't agree that Jerry, Hood and Gilbert are NTs, they'd be DEs in a 3-4. Neither Jerry or Gilbert are pass-rushers and Gilbert isn't very quick, but Hood seems to be the complete package and the only one worth a 1st Rnd selection. I'd rate these DLmen:
Hood>Perry>Brace>Gilbert

**KWHIT97** · 04-22-2009, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by sage View Post

1: Brown
-A great player and starter, but do we need to draft a rush OLB? YES
1: Jackson
-Solid DE, but I'd rather take the stronger and better pass-rushing Hood. DT
2: Butler
-Starter this year or next. If unavailable, V.Harris or S.Smith would be good picks.
3: Moala
-Not sold on this weak and slow DE. USC's defense made him look better then he is.
3: Luigs
-A real need and future starter.
4: Brinkley
-Great player and pick that could also compete at rush OLB.
5: Miller
-Good hustle and depth and could start at NT in a year or two.
6-7: Don't know these guys but they sound like good depth/projects

Are you saying we can rely on Jarvis Moss, Tim Crowder, and Elvis Dumervil as rush OLB's? Maybe one works out, either way all of thier contracts are up in a year or 2 and they are all projects at best. I think Brown makes alot of sense at 12!

Jackson is a complete DE for a 3-4 front and Hood would be a project at DE, I think Jackson could start at LDE from day 1!

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