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  • Pura Vida
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    Pepper would not come here. He has listed the teams he wants to be traded too and Denver isnt on the list. He wants to play for a contender and like many across the country, he doesnt feel Denver is a contender.

    denver isnt going to pay his high salary or give the high picks Carolina would want in a trade for a guy that doesnt want to play here.

    Its too bad, because he would instantly improve our defense.

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  • Taos_Broncomaniac
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    [QUOTE=deepcover1;2742071]They couldnt pay him in Denver this year[/QUOTE ] What exactly is our situation in terms of cap space right now? What's Peppers likely to want?

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  • porkadachop
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    Peppers would cost two first round draft picks this year. There will be a high price paid for him next year, but it wouldn't be nearly as bad.

    He may actually be better in a 3-4, because of his speed and athleticism. The Panthers often have him drop back in pass coverage.

    However, his stats come during garbage time, much like A-Rod, and he is invisible for entire games. There is a common misconception that this is because he is always double teamed. This is false, analysts that break him down on film say he is rarely double teamed.

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  • captainbronco
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    so lemme get this straight a guy who is a "me" first kind of guy wants to get paid top dollar for a position hes never played?

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  • dragster69
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    Originally posted by StayFly15 View Post
    So no one in Carolina can get the guy to play hard unless he wants a new contract. But we expect our 32 year old coach to talk some sense into him. He would last a week in Denver.
    I think if he was free to sign with another team, and say we would be interested, the best thing we can do is sign him to a one-year contract
    That way he can play lights out for a long term contract the next year. While his attitude is well-documented, don't expect that to change. That's who he is and what makes him a great football player, that's what revs up his motor...

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  • broncolee
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    Peppers hasn't signed his tender yet, so he can't be traded. I'm not sure he still has the option of signing with another team. If he does, such a team would have to be willing to give the Panthers two first round picks, if the Panthers don't match the offer. Even if Peppers does sign the tender and the Panthers decide to trade him, they are going to want at least a first round pick plus another pick. With the Broncos fresh out of extra first round picks, it's hardly worth it to give up next year's first to trade for a guy who's getting up in age and is a character concern.

    I wouldn't count on the Panthers taking the tag off of Peppers, making him a free agent. They won't be able to compete in the open market for his services and they don't want to lose him and get nothing in return. He says he wants to be traded but his only chance to get traded is to sign his tender. I don't think he cares if he stays in Carolina or not. I think he either wants the Panthers to give him a big contract or a promise that they will trade him if he signs his tender.

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  • dizzolve
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    With the tag on him, can they get creative structuring a deal with carolina so that they wouldnt have to eat the entire franchise price?

    Not sure what the finer points of a franchise tag are regarding moving a guy.

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  • deepcover1
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    They couldnt pay him in Denver this year

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  • the0rangecrush
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    Peppers the good and the bad

    Ok there seems to be mixed emotions about Julius Peppers on these boards.
    The Good- A 29 year old 4 time pro-bowler, who amassed 14.5 sacks last year alone. He is a hybrid type player, who would be great for Ayers to learn from. Instead of throwing Ayers into a starting posistion, we could have Ayers sub in and learn from Peppers. He brings a pass rush that we could definitely use.
    The Bad- There are question marks to how he would fit in a 3-4 scheme. He would want a long term contract, even though he's growing old. Some flags have been raised about his character. The amount of money needed to sign him would be huge.
    My feelings on the subject- Remember Peppers still is under the franchise tag, so he may not even become a free agent. Should he become a free agent, then I believe the pros outweigh the cons, and we should make a play at him. To amass 14.5 sacks in one year is unreal. That is a talent we could use as presence for the defense and would improve us even more.

    Feel free to comment on what you think.

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  • timp
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    Julius Pepper

    Originally posted by roushmartin6 View Post
    Pass, this guy is another "all about me" player and is locker room cancer. Keep him away from Denver.
    Send him to Chicago. or better yet, Dallas. God's favorite team already has buildings crashing down around them.

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  • dizzolve
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    Ya I can't believe they signed Delhomme to a long term expensive contract. It's not that hes bad, it's just that he's bad when it counts. :brick:

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  • StayFly15
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    So no one in Carolina can get the guy to play hard unless he wants a new contract. But we expect our 32 year old coach to talk some sense into him. He would last a week in Denver.

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  • Rocksteady5150
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    ya that sucks when one of your star players wants out. it doesnt seem like its even the money issue. i dont think he likes delhomo as th qb. they are gave him a contract extension im pretty sure. I cant think of any other reason he would have to get out

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  • Freyaka
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    I can't see him landing here (or wanting to go here) we won't pay what he wants and honestly I don't even think he'd fit into a 3-4 all that well.

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  • dizzolve
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    I can't believe some of the comments about JP up in here. Carolina is my 2nd favorite team so I know a bit about this guy. This situation is in no way similar to the Cutler deal, except to say that they both asked to be traded.

    First of all, he is not lazy, he is not a cancer, he is not a cutlerish crybaby.

    My opinion is that the Carolina FO is absolutely in denial about JP. He asked to be traded because he didn't like the D Scheme being run over there. Whats so unreasonable about that? So they slap the franshise tag on him. It's like you want to break up with your girlfreind, but she says no and locks you in her closet. *** I don't understand why Carolina would force a player to be here if he wants elsewhere.

    I am surprised he didn't show up to camp, but as said above, he's not breaking any rules.

    On the other hand, He is too expensive. And I think thats what the Carolina front office is betting on. We broncos cannot pay that much to this guy as much as I would LOVE to have him here. The price attached to JP is gonna close many doors thanks to Carolina FO.

    This is a high character guy tho. You people claiming he is some kind of waaa Cutler have no idea.

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