Bronco Draft Workshop

[Hoserman117]

I tend to agree here. Although I do think Jack Williams has made leaps and bounds, and The Phons is going to be great eventually, we will need that taller CB to go against the likes of Vincent Jackson, Randy Moss, etc. Those guys can jump through the roof, and even though I am confident in our two smaller CB's, they will most likely be exposed against a guy like that. I like Ras-I Dowling, Jerome Murphy, Trevard Lindley, Patrick Robinson, and Perrish Cox a lot as the taller CB's in the draft.

My two favorite of that bunch in terms of estimated value would be Perrish Cox and Jerome Murphy. Both play at a high level, and are playmakers. Cox is a fantastic return man, and after watching him play this year, he has shown some flashes of shutdown corner talent. I wouldn't mind seeing us add Cox, and simply getting rid of one of our Safeties (Barrett would be my choice as I think Bruton is simply a better ST player). I wouldn't mind seeing a starting CB duo of Smith and Cox in about 2 years, with JMFW in the nickle role.

I don't think I'd dump Barrett. I saw him covering Gates in the 2nd half of the San Diego game and he really did an excellent job on him like he did against Tony Gonzalez last season. I think we should keep him to play a similar role that Sam Brandon played for us which is basically just to shut down the opposing TE. Bruton is a good ST player, Dawkins should be here 2-3 years, Renaldo Hill maybe a little longer. I think McBath is the future replacement for Hill, but we need a big run stuffing, fast, energetic 220 pounder to replace Dawkins. Can Bruton with some awesome coaching become that? Maybe. But I'd rather see us nab a 1st round safety 2-3 years down the road.

After some further thought I'd rather trade out of the first round, or just trade down in the first and pick up an additional 2nd or 3rd and get a solid guard and 3-4 DE. Then in later rounds I wouldn't mind a Center, a short yardage FB/RB if we haven't solved that problem by the end of the season, and depending on how Kern does the rest of the year, a new punter in the 7th.

There are no glaring weaknesses on the team, and that's what's good. We can just draft good players and fit them in with our scheme.

[ERoyal248]

I don't think I'd dump Barrett. I saw him covering Gates in the 2nd half of the San Diego game and he really did an excellent job on him like he did against Tony Gonzalez last season. I think we should keep him to play a similar role that Sam Brandon played for us which is basically just to shut down the opposing TE. Bruton is a good ST player, Dawkins should be here 2-3 years, Renaldo Hill maybe a little longer. I think McBath is the future replacement for Hill, but we need a big run stuffing, fast, energetic 220 pounder to replace Dawkins. Can Bruton with some awesome coaching become that? Maybe. But I'd rather see us nab a 1st round safety 2-3 years down the road.

After some further thought I'd rather trade out of the first round, or just trade down in the first and pick up an additional 2nd or 3rd and get a solid guard and 3-4 DE. Then in later rounds I wouldn't mind a Center, a short yardage FB/RB if we haven't solved that problem by the end of the season, and depending on how Kern does the rest of the year, a new punter in the 7th.

There are no glaring weaknesses on the team, and that's what's good. We can just draft good players and fit them in with our scheme.

Agree. Barrett did pretty good vs Gates, i dont know if he should be the starter in the near future but like you said just put him on opposing tight ends. McBath should likely replace Hill. Who will replace Dawkins, i have no idea, maybe Barrett will. I hope we trade down or trade out, i would like some more picks. I think we have a pick in every round except the 5th. We dont have a MAJOR weakness. We're a complete team. I'm sure McDaniels and the front office will do a good job in the draft. I still wish we would use Hillis for short yardage.

[Hoserman117]

Agree. Barrett did pretty good vs Gates, i dont know if he should be the starter in the near future but like you said just put him on opposing tight ends. McBath should likely replace Hill. Who will replace Dawkins, i have no idea, maybe Barrett will. I hope we trade down or trade out, i would like some more picks. I think we have a pick in every round except the 5th. We dont have a MAJOR weakness. We're a complete team. I'm sure McDaniels and the front office will do a good job in the draft. I still wish we would use Hillis for short yardage.

Yeah McBath did look good when he stepped in against SD for Dawkins. Hopefully he'll just slide over for Hill in a couple years and we can draft somebody to take Dawks spot.

[Snarfalicious]

Agree. Barrett did pretty good vs Gates, i dont know if he should be the starter in the near future but like you said just put him on opposing tight ends. McBath should likely replace Hill. Who will replace Dawkins, i have no idea, maybe Barrett will. I hope we trade down or trade out, i would like some more picks. I think we have a pick in every round except the 5th. We dont have a MAJOR weakness. We're a complete team. I'm sure McDaniels and the front office will do a good job in the draft. I still wish we would use Hillis for short yardage.

Going along with the whole trading down/out (which I totally agree with as a team with no glaring needs, just a lack of overall depth at some spots), I looked a little further into some of the opporunities to trade out of the first round to accumulate some more 2nd to 3rd round picks. Here's what I came up with:

I found that Tampa Bay, Kansas City, and New England all have 2 2nd round picks. After looking at these three teams, the only one I see us having a good chance to trade with would be the Tampa Bay Bucs. New England I don't think would want to give away two picks, and neither would Kansas City to us. But, I could see Tampa Bay looking to get back into the first round if a talented guy were to fall into our laps. I expect them to take Ndamukong Suh with their first pick, he just meets everything they need. They also need a pass rusher, and at around 18-22 (Where I think we will be picking), they would be able to get that.

Despite what many people think, the Bucs do not have a ton of holes on their roster, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were looking to move back into the 1st round to get 2 guys who could come in and immediately help them. They really need a DT, DE, and a true #1 threat at WR. They like Josh Johnson and Josh Freeman, they have a solid OL, and they have a pretty good RB corps. Their D is hindered by their Front 4, and they know that.

So, going ahead assuming that we trade out of the first round of the draft with Tampa Bay (who at this point is scheduled to be the 2nd overall pick in the draft); the trade would look something like this in my eyes:

Denver trades their 1st Round Pick (22nd overall - 780), 6th Round Pick (187th overall - 17), and Marcus Thomas DT (Valued at about a 3rd-4th round pick - 120).

Tampa Bay trades their 2nd Round Pick (34th overall - 560), and 2nd Round pick (360).

Value is Denver = Approx. 917 to Tampa Bay = 920

I know, I know. Trades this early are extremely hard to read, but this trade does make sense logically with the point values, and actually including Marcus Thomas; who is a solid DT, and he's still young, is more fitted to be in a 4-3 in my eyes, and the Bucs would love to have more depth there.

So going forward our picks might look like this:
3 2nd round picks, 1 3rd round pick, 1 4th round pick, 1 7th round pick.

That being said, here is how I would approach the draft:

2a. Maurkice Pouncey OG/C Florida. He slips into the 2nd round, barely. We get him with our high pick from the Bucs, and we get an immediate replacement for Hamilton (whom I expect to be gone), and the heir apparent to Weigmann.

2b. Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma State. A fantastic CB/KR, with a great blend of size, speed, and smarts. He is an extremely talented CB, who needs to show a little more toughness against the run, but is a great cover CB. He is one of the best KR's in the history of Oklahoma State, and he is a welcomed addition to our team as a versatile threat.

2c. Vince Oghobaase DE Duke. Great player, has really turned up his game in the past year. He fits the mold of a great DE in a 3-4. Could be a true beast at DE for us.

3. Jordan Shipley WR Texas. He might make his way into the 2nd round, but I'm not so sure. I value him as a 3rd rounder with major upside. He has all the tools, but his durability is a concern. He and Cox would be 2 great KR to add into the fold. He's a crisp route-runner, something Josh McDaniels will appreciate, and he has that added versatility as a ST player.

4. Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky. A big ILB, fits the mold of the TED LB like a glove. He is a stout run defender, and he is a sure tackler. Comes from the SEC, so he knows what good talent looks like across from him. I like his intangibles a lot.

7. Big RB/BPA

I just threw it together, but I think it would look like a good draft on paper. What do you think?

[Hoserman117]

Going along with the whole trading down/out (which I totally agree with as a team with no glaring needs, just a lack of overall depth at some spots), I looked a little further into some of the opporunities to trade out of the first round to accumulate some more 2nd to 3rd round picks. Here's what I came up with:

I found that Tampa Bay, Kansas City, and New England all have 2 2nd round picks. After looking at these three teams, the only one I see us having a good chance to trade with would be the Tampa Bay Bucs. New England I don't think would want to give away two picks, and neither would Kansas City to us. But, I could see Tampa Bay looking to get back into the first round if a talented guy were to fall into our laps. I expect them to take Ndamukong Suh with their first pick, he just meets everything they need. They also need a pass rusher, and at around 18-22 (Where I think we will be picking), they would be able to get that.

Despite what many people think, the Bucs do not have a ton of holes on their roster, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were looking to move back into the 1st round to get 2 guys who could come in and immediately help them. They really need a DT, DE, and a true #1 threat at WR. They like Josh Johnson and Josh Freeman, they have a solid OL, and they have a pretty good RB corps. Their D is hindered by their Front 4, and they know that.

So, going ahead assuming that we trade out of the first round of the draft with Tampa Bay (who at this point is scheduled to be the 2nd overall pick in the draft); the trade would look something like this in my eyes:

Denver trades their 1st Round Pick (22nd overall - 780), 6th Round Pick (187th overall - 17), and Marcus Thomas DT (Valued at about a 3rd-4th round pick - 120).

Tampa Bay trades their 2nd Round Pick (34th overall - 560), and 2nd Round pick (360).

Value is Denver = Approx. 917 to Tampa Bay = 920

I know, I know. Trades this early are extremely hard to read, but this trade does make sense logically with the point values, and actually including Marcus Thomas; who is a solid DT, and he's still young, is more fitted to be in a 4-3 in my eyes, and the Bucs would love to have more depth there.

So going forward our picks might look like this:
3 2nd round picks, 1 3rd round pick, 1 4th round pick, 1 7th round pick.

That being said, here is how I would approach the draft:

2a. Maurkice Pouncey OG/C Florida. He slips into the 2nd round, barely. We get him with our high pick from the Bucs, and we get an immediate replacement for Hamilton (whom I expect to be gone), and the heir apparent to Weigmann.

2b. Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma State. A fantastic CB/KR, with a great blend of size, speed, and smarts. He is an extremely talented CB, who needs to show a little more toughness against the run, but is a great cover CB. He is one of the best KR's in the history of Oklahoma State, and he is a welcomed addition to our team as a versatile threat.

2c. Vince Oghobaase DE Duke. Great player, has really turned up his game in the past year. He fits the mold of a great DE in a 3-4. Could be a true beast at DE for us.

3. Jordan Shipley WR Texas. He might make his way into the 2nd round, but I'm not so sure. I value him as a 3rd rounder with major upside. He has all the tools, but his durability is a concern. He and Cox would be 2 great KR to add into the fold. He's a crisp route-runner, something Josh McDaniels will appreciate, and he has that added versatility as a ST player.

4. Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky. A big ILB, fits the mold of the TED LB like a glove. He is a stout run defender, and he is a sure tackler. Comes from the SEC, so he knows what good talent looks like across from him. I like his intangibles a lot.

7. Big RB/BPA

I just threw it together, but I think it would look like a good draft on paper. What do you think?

I do like it and I'd love to see is pick up Shipley. He reminds me of a young Stokley and a white Eddie Royal

And yeah that 7th rounder could either go towards a running back or a punter depending on how Kern finishes the year.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I do like it and I'd love to see is pick up Shipley. He reminds me of a young Stokley and a white Eddie Royal

And yeah that 7th rounder could either go towards a running back or a punter depending on how Kern finishes the year.

Shipley is a stud. IMO he's quite a bit faster than Stokely.


He will probably be available when we draft.

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

Going along with the whole trading down/out (which I totally agree with as a team with no glaring needs, just a lack of overall depth at some spots), I looked a little further into some of the opporunities to trade out of the first round to accumulate some more 2nd to 3rd round picks. Here's what I came up with:

I found that Tampa Bay, Kansas City, and New England all have 2 2nd round picks. After looking at these three teams, the only one I see us having a good chance to trade with would be the Tampa Bay Bucs. New England I don't think would want to give away two picks, and neither would Kansas City to us. But, I could see Tampa Bay looking to get back into the first round if a talented guy were to fall into our laps. I expect them to take Ndamukong Suh with their first pick, he just meets everything they need. They also need a pass rusher, and at around 18-22 (Where I think we will be picking), they would be able to get that.

Despite what many people think, the Bucs do not have a ton of holes on their roster, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were looking to move back into the 1st round to get 2 guys who could come in and immediately help them. They really need a DT, DE, and a true #1 threat at WR. They like Josh Johnson and Josh Freeman, they have a solid OL, and they have a pretty good RB corps. Their D is hindered by their Front 4, and they know that.

So, going ahead assuming that we trade out of the first round of the draft with Tampa Bay (who at this point is scheduled to be the 2nd overall pick in the draft); the trade would look something like this in my eyes:

Denver trades their 1st Round Pick (22nd overall - 780), 6th Round Pick (187th overall - 17), and Marcus Thomas DT (Valued at about a 3rd-4th round pick - 120).

Tampa Bay trades their 2nd Round Pick (34th overall - 560), and 2nd Round pick (360).

Value is Denver = Approx. 917 to Tampa Bay = 920

I know, I know. Trades this early are extremely hard to read, but this trade does make sense logically with the point values, and actually including Marcus Thomas; who is a solid DT, and he's still young, is more fitted to be in a 4-3 in my eyes, and the Bucs would love to have more depth there.

So going forward our picks might look like this:
3 2nd round picks, 1 3rd round pick, 1 4th round pick, 1 7th round pick.

That being said, here is how I would approach the draft:

2a. Maurkice Pouncey OG/C Florida. He slips into the 2nd round, barely. We get him with our high pick from the Bucs, and we get an immediate replacement for Hamilton (whom I expect to be gone), and the heir apparent to Weigmann.

2b. Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma State. A fantastic CB/KR, with a great blend of size, speed, and smarts. He is an extremely talented CB, who needs to show a little more toughness against the run, but is a great cover CB. He is one of the best KR's in the history of Oklahoma State, and he is a welcomed addition to our team as a versatile threat.

2c. Vince Oghobaase DE Duke. Great player, has really turned up his game in the past year. He fits the mold of a great DE in a 3-4. Could be a true beast at DE for us.

3. Jordan Shipley WR Texas. He might make his way into the 2nd round, but I'm not so sure. I value him as a 3rd rounder with major upside. He has all the tools, but his durability is a concern. He and Cox would be 2 great KR to add into the fold. He's a crisp route-runner, something Josh McDaniels will appreciate, and he has that added versatility as a ST player.

4. Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky. A big ILB, fits the mold of the TED LB like a glove. He is a stout run defender, and he is a sure tackler. Comes from the SEC, so he knows what good talent looks like across from him. I like his intangibles a lot.

7. Big RB/BPA

I just threw it together, but I think it would look like a good draft on paper. What do you think?

This wouldn't be that bad of a draft. I don't have Cox in my Top 64, but he's not a ridiculous reach in Round 2. I know some sites are very high on him. He's definitely more returner than CB though, and I'm not sure I share your optimism that he has elite upside at CB.

I'm also against drafting a WR this draft unless we trade Marshall. As it stands, McKinnley can't even get on the field, and he's a talented guy that likely will replace Stokes at some point. Gaffney, Royal, and probably Marshall aren't going anywhere. Lloyd never dresses. I don't really want to spend a relatively high selection on a WR because it would mean either that WR or McKinnley are not contributing. I rank WR with Safety, QB, and ILB. I just don't think we draft one.

In my mind, we only have a few positions where a rookie can make our roster. Obviously, the interior O-line. Maybe two guys there. I think we need a talent influx at DE. Maybe two guys there depending on what happens with Smith and Holiday. OLB certainly needs some depth. CB certainly needs some depth, but our PS guys might have something to say about that. FB/RB might be open for competition. Hillis has disappointed, Jordan is lackluster, and Larson has been injured.


Looking at the talent in this draft, I think it's safe to lock in that we take an OC in the first two rounds. I think DE obviously is the other selection. I feel really confident we'll go DE in Round 1 and OC in Round 2. That looks to be where talent/need/value all conjoin.

The Mid-Rounds are more fuzzy. OLB and CB likely have to be addressed here or not at all. And we all think they'll be addressed. If we want to double-dip at interior O-line or DE, then that has to be hit here as well.

The best value for late-rounders are fullbacks, special teams types, or RBs. We can probably address any needs at those positions at that point. If, Josh keeps the selections. He does not value late draft selections highly.

[Snarfalicious]

In Response to MUG:


I agree with the stance that we will go Interior OL/DE in the first 2 rounds. It is really the only place where I look on our roster and say we could use a little more from that position. I would love a mauling Center, and I am most high on Stefan Wisniewski and Maurkice Pouncey. I know you mentioned Boren as a potential high-round pick, but I have yet to really watch him play. Theres arguably plenty of starting quality DE's in this draft from rounds 1-3. Names that come to mind, that I think could be there when we draft in each of the first three rounds are: Arthur Jones, Jared Odrick, Vince Oghobaase, and Brando Deadrick (these are probably my favorites apart from Suh and McCoy whom I don't think will be there at the time of our pick). I would love to see an early approach in addressing the needs at LG/C and DE.

I think we need to add some size/youth combination to our CB position. I was high on D.J. Johnson out of college, so who knows, maybe we have long term plans for him, but if they don't think he can be the answer down the road (let's face it, he was an UDFA, but he also has all the intangibles, just needs to polish and learn the position more), we should go after a guy that offers size, talent, and also is a dual-threat as a KR/PR. I know you have stated you don't think we would go after a taller CB, but if you were to have to pick some of your favorite taller CB talents (5'11+), who comes to mind?

I do see a need for some talent at TED. I know we have Andra Davis, who has quite frankly played awesome this year, but it is an area in which if one of those guys go down, I'm not sure if I feel comfortable with the backup. I do think that eventually we could move Mario Haggan in there, as he does seem to operate well in tight quarters, and he has the size to hold up, but what about at Jack ILB. I'm not so confident in Woodyard or Larsen in that role, and I think if we added a guy like Micah Johnson, who could very easily acclimate himself to a Jack or TED position, would provide upside and depth to our LB corps. Another guy I like is Joe Pawelek from Baylor. He's another tough-nosed LB but he compares similarly to Larsen, but with better coverage skills.

I agree with Safety and QB being a position of relatively no need. I like Brandstater, and anyone who watches the game can see how Orton fits the system like a glove. I like the potential of Bruton, and I think McBath will eventually be a good starter in the Renaldo Hill role. Bruton was known as a leader at ND, and he obviously has all the abilities, but he needs to learn some discipline in the run-game, as he has the tendency to overpursue, but that will come in time I believe.

At WR, I like our depth, and this could become one of our top 3 needs if Marshall were to slip away. But, if he were to slip away, it would most likely after we apply the highest tender on him, which I believe is a 1st and a 3rd. Worst things could happen, to be honest. I think Marshall stays, even with the re-signing of Orton, Doom, and Kuper. I don't see Kuper taking a lot of money, and Orton I don't believe will take a ton either. Marshall and Doom will be the most expensive, but they should be as our biggest impact players on each side of the ball. I would really like for us to add a BIG receiver with some nice upside in the mid-to-late rounds. We have the guys who hover just at or under 6'0", but I'd like to have that guy we could put opposite of Marshall that can really stretch the field and go up and get it. I still dream of having Royal in the Welker role, but I'm not sure if or when that will happen.

[broncos SB2010]

Going along with the whole trading down/out (which I totally agree with as a team with no glaring needs, just a lack of overall depth at some spots), I looked a little further into some of the opporunities to trade out of the first round to accumulate some more 2nd to 3rd round picks. Here's what I came up with:

I found that Tampa Bay, Kansas City, and New England all have 2 2nd round picks. After looking at these three teams, the only one I see us having a good chance to trade with would be the Tampa Bay Bucs. New England I don't think would want to give away two picks, and neither would Kansas City to us. But, I could see Tampa Bay looking to get back into the first round if a talented guy were to fall into our laps. I expect them to take Ndamukong Suh with their first pick, he just meets everything they need. They also need a pass rusher, and at around 18-22 (Where I think we will be picking), they would be able to get that.

Despite what many people think, the Bucs do not have a ton of holes on their roster, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were looking to move back into the 1st round to get 2 guys who could come in and immediately help them. They really need a DT, DE, and a true #1 threat at WR. They like Josh Johnson and Josh Freeman, they have a solid OL, and they have a pretty good RB corps. Their D is hindered by their Front 4, and they know that.

So, going ahead assuming that we trade out of the first round of the draft with Tampa Bay (who at this point is scheduled to be the 2nd overall pick in the draft); the trade would look something like this in my eyes:

Denver trades their 1st Round Pick (22nd overall - 780), 6th Round Pick (187th overall - 17), and Marcus Thomas DT (Valued at about a 3rd-4th round pick - 120).

Tampa Bay trades their 2nd Round Pick (34th overall - 560), and 2nd Round pick (360).

Value is Denver = Approx. 917 to Tampa Bay = 920

I know, I know. Trades this early are extremely hard to read, but this trade does make sense logically with the point values, and actually including Marcus Thomas; who is a solid DT, and he's still young, is more fitted to be in a 4-3 in my eyes, and the Bucs would love to have more depth there.

So going forward our picks might look like this:
3 2nd round picks, 1 3rd round pick, 1 4th round pick, 1 7th round pick.

That being said, here is how I would approach the draft:

2a. Maurkice Pouncey OG/C Florida. He slips into the 2nd round, barely. We get him with our high pick from the Bucs, and we get an immediate replacement for Hamilton (whom I expect to be gone), and the heir apparent to Weigmann.

2b. Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma State. A fantastic CB/KR, with a great blend of size, speed, and smarts. He is an extremely talented CB, who needs to show a little more toughness against the run, but is a great cover CB. He is one of the best KR's in the history of Oklahoma State, and he is a welcomed addition to our team as a versatile threat.

2c. Vince Oghobaase DE Duke. Great player, has really turned up his game in the past year. He fits the mold of a great DE in a 3-4. Could be a true beast at DE for us.

3. Jordan Shipley WR Texas. He might make his way into the 2nd round, but I'm not so sure. I value him as a 3rd rounder with major upside. He has all the tools, but his durability is a concern. He and Cox would be 2 great KR to add into the fold. He's a crisp route-runner, something Josh McDaniels will appreciate, and he has that added versatility as a ST player.

4. Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky. A big ILB, fits the mold of the TED LB like a glove. He is a stout run defender, and he is a sure tackler. Comes from the SEC, so he knows what good talent looks like across from him. I like his intangibles a lot.

7. Big RB/BPA

I just threw it together, but I think it would look like a good draft on paper. What do you think?

This loks pretty similar to my draft wish list

[Bronco in UT]

I think this draft will go in the form of infusing a youth movement in critical areas for our team, i.e. the offensive and defensive lines. MInd, I really have to agree with you on this one in that I could definitely see us drafting OL and DL, early and often. With the talent in this draft, particularly on the defensive side of the ball, we could really be set for the future. It will get very interesting to see which juniors come out early.

[Hoserman117]

I think this draft will go in the form of infusing a youth movement in critical areas for our team, i.e. the offensive and defensive lines. MInd, I really have to agree with you on this one in that I could definitely see us drafting OL and DL, early and often. With the talent in this draft, particularly on the defensive side of the ball, we could really be set for the future. It will get very interesting to see which juniors come out early.

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[JaysusCutler]

and please don't suggest developing David Bruton and/or Josh Barrett, as they are backup safties at best that earn their keep on special teams.

I totally disagree. I think Bruton can be our guy. I loved everything I've seen from him from college to preseason to his limited role in the regular season. Bruton seems to be an ideal fill-in for Dawkins IMO.

[elevation INC]

A possibility......trade our first rd pick for a second and third rd pick , use our 2 second rd picks and 2 third rd picks on the following

2. DE Vince Oghobasse or DT lawrence Marsh
2. CB Javier Arenas
3. C/G Thomas Austin
3. ILB/WR/Return Specialist

[Snarfalicious]

A possibility......trade our first rd pick for a second and third rd pick , use our 2 second rd picks and 2 third rd picks on the following

2. DE Vince Oghobasse or DT lawrence Marsh
2. CB Javier Arenas
3. C/G Thomas Austin
3. ILB/WR/Return Specialist

Definetly wouldn't mind that. Jordan Shipley or Micah Johnson in the 3rd would be ideal in my eyes. I'm starting to really like Micah Johnson.

[elevation INC]

Definetly wouldn't mind that. Jordan Shipley or Micah Johnson in the 3rd would be ideal in my eyes. I'm starting to really like Micah Johnson.

i really like him and pawlek from baylor....i also belive arenas will be a very good corner at the next level. as for shipley i am willing to bet he doesnt get to round 3, all the guy does is produce constantly.....MIndfield is right this guy is bonafide.....but i dont see a place here quite yet being i see him taken in rd 2. i belive we will address returner and ILB around rds 3-4 hence micah johnson rd 3, or a returner like brandon james.....