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  • #16
    Originally posted by broncofansd
    Seattle could restock their team very easy this Offseason.


    1st Round Pick - LT = Anthony Davis

    1st + 3rd Traded to Denver = Brandon Marshall

    2nd Round Pick = Colt McCoy


    That would give them their LT , WR and QB
    WOW, I have been pretty sceptical about the Seattle rumor but that is in the relam of possibility, and they have the picks to do it. Nice.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Lukic
      It's so funny that the Broncos are turning into the Pats and now the 'Skins are gonna turn into the Broncos.


      Good maybe they go 8-8 and noy win a Bowl this decade...While we win 3-4...
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      • #18
        Originally posted by d-bronx42
        I'd take Seattles 1st round pick and Nate Burelson... That sounds like a fair trade.
        Seattle's 1st(really our pick), 5th, and Burleson and they can have Marshall that would be awesome but I think we would get alot of picks after the first, like most of thier draft, so we don't have to pay one player 1st round money. And we get alot more players, bargianing chips, and depth.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BroncosFreak#1
          Seattle's 1st(really our pick), 5th, and Burleson and they can have Marshall that would be awesome but I think we would get alot of picks after the first, like most of thier draft, so we don't have to pay one player 1st round money. And we get alot more players, bargianing chips, and depth.
          Marshall can play well on any team in this league, hes definitely not gonna go somewhere and bust. While he is highly productive, he doesnt seem to be the man for the job. Mainly because him and McDaniels cant seem to get on the same wavelength consistently and so apparently the plan is to trade rather than re-sign him. Those picks could be valuable, but the question remains: to trade or not to trade.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BroncoStampede
            Marshall can play well on any team in this league, hes definitely not gonna go somewhere and bust. While he is highly productive, he doesnt seem to be the man for the job. Mainly because him and McDaniels cant seem to get on the same wavelength consistently and so apparently the plan is to trade rather than re-sign him. Those picks could be valuable, but the question remains: to trade or not to trade.
            I never said that he would bust on another team. And trade definately TRADE

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BroncosFreak#1
              I never said that he would bust on another team. And trade definately TRADE
              Yea I know you didnt, I just mean that its a tough decision because he is a good player.

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              • #22
                Allright BroncosFreak#1, I forgot to add one thing, picks are valuable but the bust rates are high, and we might as well pay Marshall if we can (why not.. you know?). I dont think the situation is completely out of hand, but the Broncos may feel like this is a good draft and they want to stockpile picks, like for some of the reasons you alluded to before.

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                • #23
                  Wouldn't it be ironic if we traded to Seattle, and got our pick back.........I can just see all the array of discussions, including:
                  - why did we pick Alphonso in the first place (unfortunately, the bashers may not let that one go away for some time!)
                  - wait a minute, it's good that we finished 8 and 8, which really bumped up the value of our old, that is, new pick.
                  - Josh knew he made a mistake and spent half the season working out a master plan to get his pick back

                  yadda yadda......

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by broncofansd
                    Interesting enough , I was reading Bleacherreport.com and they rumored the Brandon Marshall to Seattle deal too.

                    This one says Source confirms it(being interest)

                    You can view this article on my personal blog I saw the rumor on the bottom of the NFL page on ESPN: “Hawks looking at Brandon Marshall...


                    There is no way I want to trade our 11th + Brandon for Seattle's 1st(6th) + Deon Branch.

                    I doubt McDaniels would want to move up 5 spots instead of a 2nd Round Pick.

                    I am not sure I want Deon Branch at all. He had 45 catches and has a big contract. No thanks!!!
                    Unless McDaniels wants to draft a franchise QB or unless he is seriously in love with some DT he can only get in the top 10, he's NOT going to trade up into the top 10.

                    Virtually every top 10 team wants to trade DOWN out of the top 10 because of the huge signing bonuses they have to pay these top picks. The exceptions are at the QB position, where a starting QB is going to demand big money regardless -- so you might as well take the hit and draft a great one, since it's tough to get an elite QB outside the top 15 picks of the first round (and not so easy no matter what your pick -- Vince Young come on down!)

                    A franchise LT is also a worthy top 10 pick but Denver already has Clady and unless they want to ship him out because they've decided that he's not a good fit with the new power-rushing scheme they aren't in the market for a starting LT. You don't draft either G or RT or C with a top 10 pick.

                    WR would make sense if they get rid of Brandon Marshall, but WR are the RISKIEST possible top 10 pick of all! More of them BUST than any other position taken that early and a busted top 10 pick sets you back for years because of all the money you have tied up in an unproductive player. (Alex Smith, S.F. come on down!)

                    The Broncos play a 3-4 which makes DE a questionable value pick. Do you really want to pay a 3-4 DE Glenn Dorsey or Tyson Jackson money? The Chiefs apparently did, but then KC is not the best example of a well run franchise these days. A few more moves like that and Scott Pioli is going to be looking for another job.

                    That really leaves CB, NT or conceivably LB as the only possible top 10 picks for the Broncos.

                    NT would be great if they could find one worthy, but that's not a given obviously. Their biggest defensive need is for a monster pass-rushing NT like Haloti Ngata, but getting one is another matter.

                    They might be better off using their #2 pick there rather than reaching here.

                    CB -- finding a replacement for Champ Bailey is a good idea since Shanahan stupidly got rid of Foxworth and the Broncos have no suitable backups. Jack Williams is apparently not going to cut it and Alphonso Smith is probably better suited as a #2 CB. But, using a top 10 pick on a CB -- he'd better be a sure-fire pro-bowl guy.

                    The Raiders drafted Asomugha with the #31 pick of the 1st round. Mid to Late first round is a much better place to draft a CB.

                    LB -- Again risky. Jerod Meyo was a 10th pick for the Pats and that worked out great, but top ten disappointments make this a risky idea. Again you have to be pretty sure he's something special.

                    Since the Broncos are getting rid of Tony Sheffler and since Daniel Graham amply demonstrated his "hands of stone" by bouncing passes off his teflon mitts in the last game, a pass-catching TE is a necessity.

                    But, using a top 10 pick on one? Risky -- as the 49ers can tell you after taking Vernon Davis with the #6 pick a few years ago. (Shanahan actually wanted to trade up and get him).

                    QB? I wouldn't mind a BIT if McDaniels scorched the "Orton's Army" crew by shipping Orton out and drafting a rookie QB to be his franchise QB.

                    But, that's NOT going to happen. McDaniels has ONE YEAR to get this team into the playoffs as at LEAST a wild-card or he's going to be fired. Bowlen's not going to be infinitely patient after getting rid of Shanahan because he failed to get to the playoffs for 3 straight years. Shanny had the benefit of winning our first championship. McDaniels has done nothing at all so far in the NFL but lose 8 of his last 10 games. If that continues on into this season he won't be around for 2011.

                    He doesn't have 3 years to waste grooming a rookie QB. If he drafts one, he'll have to be incredibly lucky to be still around by the time the kid is ready to lead the team to the playoffs in 2013-2014.

                    And meanwhile, do you give Orton a $50 million contract when you've just selected his replacement? If you ship Orton out, who's your starter this season? It's not as if a Kurt Warner or Brett Favre is beating down the door to come and play here for a few seasons until the rookie is ready. Not even McDaniels is going to risk picking up a FA QB in a "Must-Win" season and risking his career. Yet a rookie QB is not going to lead this team to the playoffs.

                    Ergo: Orton stays and Denver does NOT draft a QB.
                    Last edited by Cugel; 01-16-2010, 08:11 AM.
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                    • #25
                      Actually, the front office in Seattle last year reported that Denver tried to trade up with them. That's why the trade with Alphonso went down, because the lines of communication were open. I wouldn't put it past McDaniels to try and trade up in the 5-9 range if there is a player available that he really wants.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor
                        Actually, the front office in Seattle last year reported that Denver tried to trade up with them. That's why the trade with Alphonso went down, because the lines of communication were open. I wouldn't put it past McDaniels to try and trade up in the 5-9 range if there is a player available that he really wants.
                        Different FO in Seattle now though?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BroncosTX77
                          Different FO in Seattle now though?
                          That's true...I wasn't trying to suggest that Seattle would let someone trade up with them. My point was that I wouldn't put it past McDaniels to try and trade up.
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                          • #28
                            There is no player that I would want to trade up for unless it is SUH.




                            So I think Denver would rather have Seattle's 2nd 1st Round Pick(14th) and a 3rd.

                            There are alot of player at 14 or lower who would make a great addition to the Broncos.


                            Dan Williams
                            Mike Iupati
                            Maurkice Pouncey

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor
                              That's true...I wasn't trying to suggest that Seattle would let someone trade up with them. My point was that I wouldn't put it past McDaniels to try and trade up.
                              I just don't know if Denver will trade up further in round 1. We all know there was more to the Alphonso Smith trade, and it is safe to assume NOT paying for 2 1st round picks was the likely cause. I think Pioli set a Belicheat disciple precedent last year with the Tyson Jackson reach, and McDaniels may follow suit this year. If he cannot find anyone to trade with he will just reach for the player he covets at #10/11.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BroncosTX77
                                I just don't know if Denver will trade up further in round 1. We all know there was more to the Alphonso Smith trade, and it is safe to assume NOT paying for 2 1st round picks was the likely cause. I think Pioli set a Belicheat disciple precedent last year with the Tyson Jackson reach, and McDaniels may follow suit this year. If he cannot find anyone to trade with he will just reach for the player he covets at #10/11.
                                Didn't NE trade up to the 8th spot to get Mayo?

                                You're probably right in the idea we most likely won't move up. All that I am saying is it is apparently not something that is out of the question with this front office because they tried it last year with Seattle. What I would really like to know is who they were after. My guess would be it was Raji.
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