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    No trades yet; just 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th & 7th round draft choices:
    • 1st=Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee, 6'2" 329lbs;

      2nd=Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise St., 5'10" 190lbs;

      3rd=Dan LeFevour, QB, Central Michigan, 6'3" 229 lbs;

      4th=Ben Tate, RB, Auburn, 5'11" 214lbs;

      6th=Marshall Newhouse, G, TCU, 6'3" 326lbs;

      7th=EJ Wilson, DE, North Carolina, 6'3" 289lbs.


    UDFAs:
    • Erik Cook, C, New Mexico, 6'6" 320lbs;

      Alric Arnett, WR, West Virginia, 6'2" 183lbs, or Verran Tucker, WR, Cal., 6'2" 194lbs, or Kyle Williams, WR, Arizona State, 5'10" 185lbs, or Emmanuel Sanders, WR, SMU, 5'11' 182lbs (whomever is available)

      Curtis Steele, RB, Memphis, 5'11" 194lbs, or Roy Upchurch, Alabama, 6' 210;

      Michael Hoomanawanui, TE, Illinois, 6'4" 267lbs;

      Clifton Geathers, DE, South Carolina (w/???), 6'7", 281lbs, or Corey Peters, 5 tech., Kentucky, 6'3" 295lbs, or Doug Worthington, 5 tech., Ohio State, 6'5" 288;

      Josh Hull, ILB, Penn St., 6'3" 236lbs, or Travis Goethel, ILB, Arizona St., 6'2" 240lbs;

      Arthur Moats, ILB, James Madison, 6' 246lbs, or Adrian Tracy, OLB, William & Mary, 6'3" 248lbs;

      Kevin Thomas, CB, USC, 6'1" 190lbs, or AJ Jefferson, CB, Fresno, 6' 190lbs, or AJ Wallace, CB, Penn. St., 6' 195lbs, or Rafael Priest, CB, TCU, 5'10" 182lbs;

      Brent Bowden, P, Virginia Tech, 6'3" 197lbs, or Matt Dodge, P, East Carolina, 6'2" 223lbs, or Robert Malone, P, Fresno, 6'2" 233lbs.
    Last edited by samparnell; 02-06-2010, 05:48 PM.
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    I like it......
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    • #3
      Are you planning an playing Williams at DE cause NT isn't our weakest position. Fields did a decent job. Our DE on the other hand sucked. Just courious...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kona bronco
        Are you planning an playing Williams at DE cause NT isn't our weakest position. Fields did a decent job. Our DE on the other hand sucked. Just courious...
        Williams is an excellent NT prospect. Fields and McBean graded out about the same for the season. Peterson was just awful.

        I suppose Fields is ok for the status quo, but IMO Dan Williams is the best chance we may have at our selection to improve our D-Line.

        I would like to see Chris Baker at DE actually. He's pretty athletic and explosive off the snap. I get giddy when I think of those possibilities.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor
          Williams is an excellent NT prospect. Fields and McBean graded out about the same for the season. Peterson was just awful.

          I suppose Fields is ok for the status quo, but IMO Dan Williams is the best chance we may have at our selection to improve our D-Line.

          I would like to see Chris Baker at DE actually. He's pretty athletic and explosive off the snap. I get giddy when I think of those possibilities.
          Could you see a line of Williams Fields Baker. I think Fields did a decent job so why upgrade when the real weakness was DE. With two run stoping pass rushing DE our linebackers would be free to make plays. A great DE that can stop the run would be perfect for Dumervil to play behind and would improve his sack numbers. Fields wasnt the problem, Petterson and McBean was. (along with Dumervil not being able to tackle a RB.)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kona bronco
            Could you see a line of Williams Fields Baker. I think Fields did a decent job so why upgrade when the real weakness was DE. With two run stoping pass rushing DE our linebackers would be free to make plays. A great DE that can stop the run would be perfect for Dumervil to play behind and would improve his sack numbers. Fields wasnt the problem, Petterson and McBean was. (along with Dumervil not being able to tackle a RB.)
            I guess I just don't think Williams fits the mold of a DE very well. I believe Baker is a little more athletic and explosive, which makes him able to fill that mold.

            I'm not sold on Fields as some are. Actually, both he and McBean graded out about the same. I think Fields is a status quo guy, and when it comes to anchoring the line I want someone who is more than status quo. I want someone who can have a big impact on the game.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor
              I guess I just don't think Williams fits the mold of a DE very well. I believe Baker is a little more athletic and explosive, which makes him able to fill that mold.

              I'm not sold on Fields as some are. Actually, both he and McBean graded out about the same. I think Fields is a status quo guy, and when it comes to anchoring the line I want someone who is more than status quo. I want someone who can have a big impact on the game.
              The thing that scares me the most about William is like Ayers he is a one year wonder. Last year if he came out he was ranked as a 5th-7th round pick. (i'll try and find the link) Granted every year he got better, but he ws never dominate till this year. While guys like "Fat" Cody was a 1st rounder last year and "COULD" go in the first this year. These OYW really scare me.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kona bronco
                The thing that scares me the most about William is like Ayers he is a one year wonder. Last year if he came out he was ranked as a 5th-7th round pick. (i'll try and find the link) Granted every year he got better, but he ws never dominate till this year. While guys like "Fat" Cody was a 1st rounder last year and "COULD" go in the first this year. These OYW really scare me.
                Well, with Williams I like the development. I also think his build speaks volumes for him. All of the scouting reports say he has a very strong base. To develop a strong base like he has takes a lot of work and commitment in the weight room. He weighs close to 330, but he wears it very well. Cody, uh, not so much.....

                I understand what you are saying about Williams and OYR's, but I expect some guys to develop slower in college. Some guys who are stuck behind talent don't get to start until their junior or senior year. Personally, I think it's very rare that a guys is ready to start at DT when he's a freshman. So, to me it makes sense that some guys don't peak until their senior year.

                I watched the Vol's D a couple of times this year, and they were awsome up front. Williams should get a lot of credit for that.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor
                  Well, with Williams I like the development. I also think his build speaks volumes for him. All of the scouting reports say he has a very strong base. To develop a strong base like he has takes a lot of work and commitment in the weight room. He weighs close to 330, but he wears it very well. Cody, uh, not so much.....

                  I understand what you are saying about Williams and OYR's, but I expect some guys to develop slower in college. Some guys who are stuck behind talent don't get to start until their junior or senior year. Personally, I think it's very rare that a guys is ready to start at DT when he's a freshman. So, to me it makes sense that some guys don't peak until their senior year.

                  I watched the Vol's D a couple of times this year, and they were awsome up front. Williams should get a lot of credit for that.
                  Strengths:
                  Excellent bulk --- Good quickness and athleticism --- Fantastic brute strength --- Great range --- Does a terrific job in pursuit --- Outstanding run defender --- Stout at the point of attack --- Able to take on and occupy multiple blockers --- Gets a nice push up the middle --- Powerful tackler --- Solid bull-rusher --- Good instincts and awareness --- Offers schematic versatility --- Has lots of quality experience --- Still improving.

                  Weaknesses:
                  Extremely inconsistent --- Effort / Motor runs hot and cold --- Does not always use proper leverage --- Limited repertoire of moves --- Will not offer much as a pass rusher --- Average hand use --- Struggles to get off blocks at times --- Has serious issues with conditioning and stamina.

                  Notes:
                  A three-year starter for the Volunteers --- Garnered All-SEC honors in 2009 --- Began his college career at 360 pounds --- Really took to the pro-style coaching of Monte Kiffin and enjoyed an exceptional senior campaign --- Improved his draft stock as much as any prospect in the country this past season --- Could project to nose tackle in either a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme --- The type whose true value can't always be measured by looking at the stat sheet --- Talented prospect who can be as good as he wants to be but shaky intangibles are a big concern --- Showed what an impact player he is capable of being at times as a senior but the key will be keeping him in shape and motivated --- Boom or Bust
                  Sounds a lot Like Cody to me. Either way I hope we improve our lines, both were horrific last year. If Williams is the answer so be it, lets just hope for the BOOM not the BUST.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kona bronco
                    Sounds a lot Like Cody to me. Either way I hope we improve our lines, both were horrific last year. If Williams is the answer so be it, lets just hope for the BOOM not the BUST.
                    I've seen that report too, but it's the only one I've seen that is negative towards his motor. Maybe they are talking about the whole body of work over his college career.

                    Personally, I don't think it's fair to compare him to Cody. Williams has looked like an excellent physical specimen all year. Cody never has. Cody has always looked sloppy. I think it speaks very well of Williams that he has had the discipline to develop that power lifter build and keep the blubber off. This may sound harsh, but it seems like Cody takes the opportunity to go to "Chuck a Rama" everytime he has down time. He showed up at the senior bowl at 365, and was about 3 inches shorter than what Alabama had him listed at.

                    Williams value isn't really in his pass rush moves anyway. It's in the fact that he has to be occupied by two blockers. Fields doesn't always have to be occupied by two blockers.

                    What may play in our favor is that there may only be a few teams that really need a true NT, whereas guys like Suh and McCoy are good fits in just about any scheme. Dan Williams could be a good fit in a 4-3, but not as a top ten pick. Some people think he will shoot up the boards like Raji did, but Raji was a better pass rusher in college and wasn't a true NT prospect. He would do better at DE in the 3-4, IMO. Raji has top ten value in both schemes, not just the 3-4.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor
                      I've seen that report too, but it's the only one I've seen that is negative towards his motor. Maybe they are talking about the whole body of work over his college career.

                      Personally, I don't think it's fair to compare him to Cody. Williams has looked like an excellent physical specimen all year. Cody never has. Cody has always looked sloppy. I think it speaks very well of Williams that he has had the discipline to develop that power lifter build and keep the blubber off. This may sound harsh, but it seems like Cody takes the opportunity to go to "Chuck a Rama" everytime he has down time. He showed up at the senior bowl at 365, and was about 3 inches shorter than what Alabama had him listed at.

                      Williams value isn't really in his pass rush moves anyway. It's in the fact that he has to be occupied by two blockers. Fields doesn't always have to be occupied by two blockers.

                      What may play in our favor is that there may only be a few teams that really need a true NT, whereas guys like Suh and McCoy are good fits in just about any scheme. Dan Williams could be a good fit in a 4-3, but not as a top ten pick. Some people think he will shoot up the boards like Raji did, but Raji was a better pass rusher in college and wasn't a true NT prospect. He would do better at DE in the 3-4, IMO. Raji has top ten value in both schemes, not just the 3-4.
                      Giving credit where its due it does say that Williams started his carrer at 360 and now is down to 330 where "Fat" Cody goes up and down faster than a yoyo. I just want a productive draft pick, unlike Alphonso, Quinn, Ayers and maybe Moreno.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kona bronco
                        Giving credit where its due it does say that Williams started his carrer at 360 and now is down to 330 where "Fat" Cody goes up and down faster than a yoyo. I just want a productive draft pick, unlike Alphonso, Quinn, Ayers and maybe Moreno.
                        Part of me wonders if Cody really ever was down to 350. Alabama had him listed at 6'7". He was measured at 6'4" at the combine. That's quite a discrepancy.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor
                          Part of me wonders if Cody really ever was down to 350. Alabama had him listed at 6'7". He was measured at 6'4" at the combine. That's quite a discrepancy.
                          Aint it funny how arguably we got our best production out of mid round picks in McBath an Bruton. Well Mcbath was a second...

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                          • #14
                            I haven't seen Tennessee play much this year, and i was not impressed with him at Tennessee's Bowl game, now he did have a very good Senior Bowl, but the thing that i look at is, at the Senior Bowl, he was in a 4-3 Defense, it is a whole different Booger Bear when you have to man the middle by yourself.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kona bronco
                              Aint it funny how arguably we got our best production out of mid round picks in McBath an Bruton. Well Mcbath was a second...
                              McBath was very good. Personally, I think Moreno is going to be a very good back. I think Ayers also showed good development. IMO I'm still waiting to see something from Quinn and Smith. I thought Ayers showed flashes of his potential, but I just can't say that I've seen anything from Quinn or Smith that makes me think they are going to continue to develop and turn into really good players in the league. I do think that about Moreno, Ayers, and McBath.
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