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  • Medic's Mock

    Since we've all seen about a thousand mock drafts by now, I'm going to do one with some curve balls in it just for fun. I'll be doing another mock prior to the draft, but this one is to kill some time and throw some new ideas out there.

    Free agent signings-
    Jahri Evans- The Saints put a 2nd round tender on him as a RFA, and Denver offers a big money contract with a poison pill in it, prompting the champs to let him go. Good against the pass rush and a monster in the run game, he's worth more than any rookie Olineman we can grab in the 2nd round of this draft.

    Kevin Mawae- Many think that he's too long in the tooth, but he's an
    upgrade over Weigman while we groom a young center to take over next season.

    Karlos Dansby- Our 2nd big money move, he takes the right angles on tackles and can still make the big play every now and then. This will make room for a trade that I'll cover later.


    Re-Sign-
    Orton- Tender for a 1st and 3rd, insures we keep him for 1 more year.

    BMarsh- Tender for a 1st and 3rd, no teams risk the picks knowing that they will have to give up millions guarunteed to keep him long term.

    Law- 1 more year for depth at CB.

    Hochstien- 1 year offer for depth also. He's a decent backup guard and goal line FB.

    Prater- Long term contract, the kid looks like he could be a fixture at K for the next 10 years.

    Dumervil- Tender for a 1st and 3rd

    The Dolphins scoop up Doom to bolster thier pass rush, giving Denver a 1st and 3rd.

    Trades-
    DJ Williams to St. Louis for the first pick in the 3rd round.
    Chris Kuper to Washington for a 4th. Shanny gets a good ZBS guard.

    Draft-
    Round 1-
    11- NT Dan Williams- Best NT in this draft, bolsters Dline against the run.
    12- OG Mike Iupati- Best guard in the draft plays next to Clady and solidifies the left side of the Oline for the next decade.

    Round 2- traded for Jahri Evans

    Round 3-
    (1)- DE Alex Carrington- Tons of upside here, and good size for a 3-4 DE. He showed during the senior bowl that he can compete with the big boys.

    (10)- RB Toby Gerhart- Denver picks up a true power back. He's a beast who can break tackles and consistently gain yards after contact. Despite his size, he's been clocked at 4.5 in the 40. Bucky's health cannot be counted on, and he can provide a nice 1-2 punch with Moreno.

    (12)- QB Dan Lefevour- My 3rd ranked QB in this draft. He's a playmaker, with great mobility. While he doesn't have a rocket arm, he can still make all the throws. He's a competitor, leader, and the perfect candidate to groom for a year behind Orton.

    Round 4-
    (5) G/C Thomas Austin- Coming into this season, he was ranked as the #1 center by Kiper. After moving to guard and having an off year, his stock has dropped. It will rise some during the combine, but he should still be available here. He'll learn behind Mawae for a year before taking over at center.

    (16) CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah- One of my draft sleepers. Great size for a CB, 6'1, he excels in man to man coverage and is a solid tackler.

    Round 5-
    No Pick

    Round 6-
    P Zoltan Mesko- It's time to solidify this position once and for all. Mesko improved his average every year, and became the best punter in the nation. He also downed 30% of his punts inside the 20 during his college career.

    Round 7-
    WR/KR Trindon Holliday- His 5'5 frame will keep him from being taken higher, but he has run a sub 4.3 40, and is worth a taking a flyer as a return man.
    Last edited by coloradomedic; 02-18-2010, 02:00 AM.

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    Williams is worth more than the 65th overall pick.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Lukic
      Williams is worth more than the 65th overall pick.
      Depends on who you ask. For the money he makes, he doesn't make many big plays, and often takes the wrong angle and gets washed out of the play. It's certainly debatable, but like I said in the beginning of the mock.. I thought I'd throw some new ideas out there.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by coloradomedic
        Depends on who you ask. For the money he makes, he doesn't make many big plays, and often takes the wrong angle and gets washed out of the play. It's certainly debatable, but like I said in the beginning of the mock.. I thought I'd throw some new ideas out there.
        are you out of your mind??? Williams signed something like a 5 year 35M contract did you see what Bart Scott signed for?? Dj is our most consistent LB pass rush and run stopping wise trade him for a 3rd round pick that's a joke bro im sorry to say, Dansby is hardly any better than DJ Williams and not to mention that DJ is 1 year younger than Karlos i would also make damn sure i sign Dumervil im not letting my best pass rusher go also i wouldnt draft Dan Williams 10th overall if we lose Brandon we will need a True #1 WR so i would rather take Dez Bryant or Clousen/Bradford if either one of them falls to us

        anyway i don't mean to bash you because i know you said u were just throwing out some ideas but that DJ Williams trade really got me going lol other than those 2-3 things your mock looks decent
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cutler4tw
          are you out of your mind??? Williams signed something like a 5 year 35M contract did you see what Bart Scott signed for?? Dj is our most consistent LB pass rush and run stopping wise trade him for a 3rd round pick that's a joke bro im sorry to say, Dansby is hardly any better than DJ Williams and not to mention that DJ is 1 year younger than Karlos i would also make damn sure i sign Dumervil im not letting my best pass rusher go also i wouldnt draft Dan Williams 10th overall if we lose Brandon we will need a True #1 WR so i would rather take Dez Bryant or Clousen/Bradford if either one of them falls to us

          anyway i don't mean to bash you because i know you said u were just throwing out some ideas but that DJ Williams trade really got me going lol other than those 2-3 things your mock looks decent
          if you read his draft he has us keeping marshall. but i do agree with you on the DJ trade i believe if we are going to get rid of him it better involve a first or a really good player and a 2nd or 3rd. one other thing tho dont you think that dansby's would want a larger contract than DJ? so we would be adding little more production tack on one more year (age wise) and a ton more money? no thanks. (unless we got a first for DJ)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by broncsfan219
            if you read his draft he has us keeping marshall. but i do agree with you on the DJ trade i believe if we are going to get rid of him it better involve a first or a really good player and a 2nd or 3rd. one other thing tho dont you think that dansby's would want a larger contract than DJ? so we would be adding little more production tack on one more year (age wise) and a ton more money? no thanks. (unless we got a first for DJ)
            Wow really DJ wasnt event the best ILB on this team Davis was and at $ 9mil a year I would dump him in a heart beat cause he is NOT worth that type of money.

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            • #7
              I really like DJ, but he was a liability at times last season and was frequently out-performed by his comrades.
              I'd be pissed if we moved him but I would completely understand the reasoning behind it.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by sSync
                I really like DJ, but he was a liability at times last season and was frequently out-performed by his comrades.
                I'd be pissed if we moved him but I would completely understand the reasoning behind it.
                Who isn't a liability at times for thier team. Look at Manning he was a liability for the Colts when he through that INT maybe they should trade him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BroncosFreak#1
                  Who isn't a liability at times for thier team. Look at Manning he was a liability for the Colts when he through that INT maybe they should trade him.
                  Obviously you are sarcastic hear and but that being said I think DJ Williams as a liability is debatable. Peyton Manning Not so much.

                  Everybody makes a mistake and it doesn't make them a liability. When the mistakes and / or cost, compaired the the reasonable alternative, are too great then they are a liability. IMHO DJ is not a good fit for a 3-4. He should be a WLB in a 4-3. This is where his poor angles and inability to get off of tackles are exposed the least. He needs space to be his most effective and he won't get that space in the 3-4.

                  Sadly, while DJ will make many tackles they don't translate to our ability to stop the run. Compare him to Rey Malauga from the Bengals last year. Look at the transformation in their ability to stop the run with him on the field. I know it is a team game.... But I don't think we have been able to stop the run since Al Wilson left and DJ moved to the middle........ Lots of tackles but also lots of yards...

                  Now granted our DL has sucked for years and I don't mean to pile on DJ. There are lots of problems. But I think we could use an upgrade in the middle of our LB core. A guy with better instincts and the ability to get off of a block would sure help.

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                  • #10
                    You guys are complaining about DJ's contract and don't stop to think what Dansby will cost... It will be way more then DJ is getting paid and wont offer any/enough improvement to warrant the extra cash spent.


                    Get a real DE or 2 and then grade our LB's. How about keep a DC for more then 1 year and then grade our LB's. How about let DJ play the same position for more then one year then grade him...

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                    • #11
                      the broncos can do what ever the hell they want....but PLEASE KEEP THE BEAST

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ringo56
                        You guys are complaining about DJ's contract and don't stop to think what Dansby will cost... It will be way more then DJ is getting paid and wont offer any/enough improvement to warrant the extra cash spent.


                        Get a real DE or 2 and then grade our LB's. How about keep a DC for more then 1 year and then grade our LB's. How about let DJ play the same position for more then one year then grade him...
                        thank you this is pretty much how I feel. I hate the thought of trading him unless we get a first rounder for him and draft mcclain.

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                        • #13
                          For some reason, I don't think Arizona lets Dansby get away. He has been the heart and soul of their defense the last 2 years.

                          If McClain is still on the board when the Broncos pick, I could see alot of teams wanting to trade up to get him. We could trade back with a team like the Giants, still be able to get a player like Williams, and pick up an additional pick or two. I like both the DL picks in your mock.
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                          • #14
                            Some think DJ is an elite LB. I don't, for the simple reason that he rarely makes a big play, and takes poor angles at times. No Gm in the league is going to give up a 1st or high 2nd for a LB that is not a game changer. Yes, Dansby will earn more, and is worth more. He makes more big plays, and is an emotional leader on the field. It's all subjective of course, but I think it's pushing it in trading him for the 1st pick in the 3rd.

                            Anyways, any thoughts on the rest of the mock?

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                            • #15
                              Putting the trades aside, I like your overall selection of players. If we could get most of them, I'd be pretty happy.

                              Instead of Jahri Evans, I'd suggest Stephen Neal as a FA OG option. He's a UFA so he wouldn't cost us a draft pick and he has the McDaniels/Patriots background.
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