4 day edit function is down, I'll wait until after the final pro days at the first part of April, and we'll update this thing. In the meantime, keep the information coming, though the frontpage won't be updated.
**Update**
Broncos one of 27 teams that attended North Carolina's Pro Day:
Prospects: (NT Cam Thomas, NT Aleric Mullins)
Mullins had a tremendous workout, everyone needs to be familiar with him. He's a 6'1, 320 lb NT. He ran a 4.89 40, 35 reps at 225, and was tremendous in drills. He had a medical issue hold him out of the Combine, but he was invited. The Pats are all over him. He probably moved himself into the 5th or 6th Rounds. It's always nice to have another sleeper option. He was sort of buried behind Cam Thomas and Marvin Austin in the NC DT rotation.
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I think we will still draft a QB this year. This could be KO's last year depending on how his season goes. I understand we traded for Quinn, but we really didn't give up anything for him, so i can see us drafting a QB this year and keeping some pressure on Quinn. At this point, we don't know how good Quinn is going to be, we're just assuming that he is going to do good because he ran the same offense at ND. Now if we would've gave up a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rd draft pick, then i would feel more comfortable in saying that Quinn is our guy.Leave a comment:
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Dont forget though, that we were scouting skelton pretty hardcore during the season. I believe we were one of the first teams to look at him. We did send some people his way, so i would figure that we have a pretty good handle on him already and may not want to waste efforts looking at him again....Leave a comment:
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We can't take a CB early. I don't see how it will happen.
Obviously, Champ and Andre are the starters. We just gave Nathan Jones a pretty big contract for a nickel CB. At worst he'll be the dime. Alphonso Smith is going to be the 3rd or 4th CB. Tony Carter is cuttable.
However, if you take a CB before the 4th Round, he's never going to play barring an injury, or perhaps on special teams. He'd be the 5th CB on our team, he wouldn't even dress at times. We're definitely not going to take Spievey in the 2nd Round and deactive him. We're not going to deactivate Smith.
If we don't cut Tony Carter, we have no room for a CB on the roster at all. If we release Carter, than we have room for a guy that will be inactive most of the time. An early round CB is just not an option for us, we are in bed with Alphonso Smith for better or worse.
As for Calloway, he's a good option in the 4th Round area. He has experience at both OTs spots and OG. He'd be perfect for a #3 swing OT to replace Polumbus. Tyler is terrible. Kyle is a massive upgrade, and we are definitely looking at swing OTs. If we miss on Newhouse, Calloway becomes a quality fallback plan.
McDaniels love competition even if we are stacked at a position. He's always said if he feels a player can help the team regardless of position he would not shy away from him.
Calloway would be a upgrade over Tyler but I still wouldnt think about him until the 5th. I dont see much upside in him. He's a project player for 2 to 3 years and I dont think we have that kinda time to put into him. The risk is higher than the reward if he's draft anything before the 5th rd.Leave a comment:
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I like this line of thinking, but if you extend it you'll know that we also went to Iowa to see Bulaga in case he's available at 11. Slot him in at guard immediately, with the intention of taking over at RT when the somewhat-fragile Harris goes down to injury. Bulaga is a good drive blocker and, in terms of intangibles, he's a perfect fit for this team. Say what you want about positional value at 11 - that's not going to stop McD from taking high-end talent that fits our scheme.
As an aside, this draft is going to be about adding firepower to the attack. Interior run blocking, a power back and a multidimensional slot/KR type guy seem to be on the wish list. IMO, anyone who was/is hoping for a big defensive boost is going to be sorely disappointed.
See, I disagree about the positional value part. McD grew up under Pioli and Belichick. Both of those men are massive believers in positional value, especially Pioli. I mean, you heard it this week when Atlanta's GM foolishly spilt the beans that Pioli told him he could never take a Safety at #5 Overall.
Some things you just do not do early in the draft, an OG or RT is one of them. And those elite LT prospects don't want to be OGs or RTs. That's massive dollars they lose on their second contract. So, you have morale issues.
We're looking for a cost effective swing OT with long term potential at RT. We tried to get Pashos, but he went where he could start. We looked at Ducasse. I just have zero doubt we were there to look at Calloway. At some point from the 2nd - 4th Round we will draft a #3 OT that can pretty much play every position but OC. There's only so many that fit that mold in this draft. Iupati, Ducasse, Jerry, Newhouse, Calloway, Black, Wang, and Scott. We will draft one of those guys.
I'm also not sure I agree with your final statement. I don't really see this as a "firepower" draft at all. I see it as a trenches draft. Outside of a WR if we trade Marshall and RB/FB type. I think every single pick will be on the trenches.Leave a comment:
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As for Calloway, he's a good option in the 4th Round area. He has experience at both OTs spots and OG. He'd be perfect for a #3 swing OT to replace Polumbus. Tyler is terrible. Kyle is a massive upgrade, and we are definitely looking at swing OTs. If we miss on Newhouse, Calloway becomes a quality fallback plan.
As an aside, this draft is going to be about adding firepower to the attack. Interior run blocking, a power back and a multidimensional slot/KR type guy seem to be on the wish list. IMO, anyone who was/is hoping for a big defensive boost is going to be sorely disappointed.Leave a comment:
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We did did talk to Spievey at the combine so I wouldnt be to surprised if we have him high on our board. Also we might be stacked at the CB position but McDaniels love competitions and if feels Spievey can come in a compete then he'll pull the trigger. And this draft is very deep in corners. So Spievey could slip. I personally have him rated in 3 to 4 range.
As far as Calloway goes I would highly upset if drafted him or even looked at him before the 5th rd. Other than his size nothing really stands out to me about him. He's a project at tackle. He would need alot of time to develop.
Obviously, Champ and Andre are the starters. We just gave Nathan Jones a pretty big contract for a nickel CB. At worst he'll be the dime. Alphonso Smith is going to be the 3rd or 4th CB. Tony Carter is cuttable.
However, if you take a CB before the 4th Round, he's never going to play barring an injury, or perhaps on special teams. He'd be the 5th CB on our team, he wouldn't even dress at times. We're definitely not going to take Spievey in the 2nd Round and deactive him. We're not going to deactivate Smith.
If we don't cut Tony Carter, we have no room for a CB on the roster at all. If we release Carter, than we have room for a guy that will be inactive most of the time. An early round CB is just not an option for us, we are in bed with Alphonso Smith for better or worse.
As for Calloway, he's a good option in the 4th Round area. He has experience at both OTs spots and OG. He'd be perfect for a #3 swing OT to replace Polumbus. Tyler is terrible. Kyle is a massive upgrade, and we are definitely looking at swing OTs. If we miss on Newhouse, Calloway becomes a quality fallback plan.Last edited by Mat'hir Uth Gan; 03-22-2010, 10:37 PM.Leave a comment:
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Ok, I'll update Iowa and Baylor.
I don't think we were there to look at Spievey. We're so full at CB now with the signing of Jones that I don't see that position being addressed before the 4th Round at the absolute earliest, and Spievey will be gone in the Late 2nd or Early 3rd.
I could see us looking at Moeaki, but my money would be on Calloway as a swing tackle in the 3rd-4th Round range.
As far as Calloway goes I would highly upset if drafted him or even looked at him before the 5th rd. Other than his size nothing really stands out to me about him. He's a project at tackle. He would need alot of time to develop.Leave a comment:
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We sent a scout to Iowa's pro day. There's a picture of our scout talking to TE Tony Moeaki who had a very impressive day on Iowa football website. But I believe he was there with his eyes on CB Amari Spievey who checked in at 5'10 7/8 199. LBs Pat Angerer and A.J. Edds both had good workouts.
Ok, I'll update Iowa and Baylor.
I don't think we were there to look at Spievey. We're so full at CB now with the signing of Jones that I don't see that position being addressed before the 4th Round at the absolute earliest, and Spievey will be gone in the Late 2nd or Early 3rd.
I could see us looking at Moeaki, but my money would be on Calloway as a swing tackle in the 3rd-4th Round range.Last edited by Mat'hir Uth Gan; 03-22-2010, 09:20 PM.Leave a comment:
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We sent a scout to Iowa's pro day. There's a picture of our scout talking to TE Tony Moeaki who had a very impressive day on Iowa football website. But I believe he was there with his eyes on CB Amari Spievey who checked in at 5'10 7/8 199. LBs Pat Angerer and A.J. Edds both had good workouts.
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We sent a scout to Iowa's pro day. There's a picture of our scout talking to TE Tony Moeaki who had a very impressive day on Iowa football website. But I believe he was there with his eyes on CB Amari Spievey who checked in at 5'10 7/8 199. LBs Pat Angerer and A.J. Edds both had good workouts.Leave a comment:
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Oh, no doubt. I've made several references in this thread, including the original post, that this list doesn't mean anything definitively. But, there is value. For instance, we sent scouts (time and money) to scout potential Fullbacks. None of us, well at least me, had any idea we were interested in a Fullback.
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Thats why I am putting Dywer or whoever his name is in my new mock. Evidently he played some time at FB before, dropped like 20 lbs for combine and such and is now around 225 or so. I think we take him in the 4th. His value is a 3rd and I bet he falls to us at 4. He can play RB, be our smash mouth guy and also hybrid into FB-- he is a dueley just like Larsen is.Leave a comment:
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I know defensive line coaches from the Vikings, Bengals, Saints, Rams and Ravens all came to watch Smith. Smith checked in at the pro day 6'2 1/8 304. He had 30 bench reps along with a 35 1/2 vert, 5.01 40 time. His arm length at the combine was 32 3/8 and hand was 10.
Also to we sent a scout to Baylor's pro day. J.D.Walton only did position drills but WR David Gettis put on a show by running a 4.46 and 4.39 40. A name that stood out was DT Trey Bryant 6'1 1/8 312 had a 4.91 and 4.94 40. His arm length spanned an impressive 33 3/4.Leave a comment:
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Thanks! I'm curious whom we were really focused on. Smith is athletic enough to possibly be a 5 tech, though he's a bit short. He might be best in the 4-3. Porter is a 3rd down back, and up to this point, we haven't really shown much interest in that unless you count McCluster, which I suppose you have to.
Also to we sent a scout to Baylor's pro day. J.D.Walton only did position drills but WR David Gettis put on a show by running a 4.46 and 4.39 40. A name that stood out was DT Trey Bryant 6'1 1/8 312 had a 4.91 and 4.94 40. His arm length spanned an impressive 33 3/4.Leave a comment:
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Thanks! I'm curious whom we were really focused on. Smith is athletic enough to possibly be a 5 tech, though he's a bit short. He might be best in the 4-3. Porter is a 3rd down back, and up to this point, we haven't really shown much interest in that unless you count McCluster, which I suppose you have to.Leave a comment:
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