Pro Days we have Skipped/Attended and For Whom

[D.J.55]

We had scouts at Louisiana Tech checking out DT D'Anthony Smith and RB Daniel Porter.

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

that will work, and yeah the edit rule is BS....i will keep an eye here as well then like you said when they are done i will just combine your thread with mine for a super thread before draft day, we should do it as one next year.....:salute!:

Sounds good.


Updating that on Friday, we were one of 10 teams that did not send representatives to Vanderbilt's Pro Day. The only prospects of note are CB Myron Lewis and OT Thomas Welch.

[elevation INC]

Well, there are two problems with that. The first is that Elevation already started doing the Workout Visits Thread, so that's his baby this year.

The bigger, and more annoying problem, is that this forum has a new 4 day edit rule. After 4 days, you can't edit your posts. So, you actually have to make a new thread every 4 days to keep things up to snuff. It sucks because you lose so much of the discussion from the previous thread and it is a lot of unnecessary work. I did it with the Junior Declare List and that was enough for me.

So...this Pro Day thread I'll keep updated for four days, then I'll wait until all the Pro Days are done, which is about a week, and I'll just have Elevation insert it in his Personal Visit threads.

I just wanted to throw this up now to see if I could accumulate some information I may have missed.

that will work, and yeah the edit rule is BS....i will keep an eye here as well then like you said when they are done i will just combine your thread with mine for a super thread before draft day, we should do it as one next year.....:salute!:

[bahn]

MUG do you have a list of all the guys we've brought in/ plan to bring in for private workouts?

Heres the thread
http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=163996

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

MUG do you have a list of all the guys we've brought in/ plan to bring in for private workouts?

No, but Elevation does. His thread is around here somewhere. It's been kind of quiet though as far as hearing about people Denver is bringing in. I think we've brought in like 8 guys so far.

[Project KSL]

MUG do you have a list of all the guys we've brought in/ plan to bring in for private workouts?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I'm sold on him. He can seperate and he has sneaky speed. Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne-ish. Not to that talent level, but you get the idea of what I see at least.

I hope you're right. I like the kid so much I feel bad even saying it.

I sometimes wonder if the watered down competition in the Big East padded his stats. I might be totally off, but it seemed like he struggled against good teams like Pitt, and also in their bowl game.

Isn't he only about 185?

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

I'm not sold on Gilyard as a deap threat:


Of course, that all depends on wether or not we take a C in the 2nd, or look to WR.


I love his story. I love the way he has handled adversity. I think he's had a great college career and is an excellent role model. I am just not convinced that he will be able to translate his skill set to the pro game. I don't think he has the size, speed, or leaping ability to be a big play guy at the next level, atleast not as a true #1.

I think his best hope is to be a great route runner at the next level.

I'm sold on him. He can seperate and he has sneaky speed. Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne-ish. Not to that talent level, but you get the idea of what I see at least.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I think we'll bring in Price. He's about neck and neck with Gilyard, so if we're looking at him, we almost have to look at Price too.

I'm not sold on Gilyard as a deap threat:


Of course, that all depends on wether or not we take a C in the 2nd, or look to WR.


I love his story. I love the way he has handled adversity. I think he's had a great college career and is an excellent role model. I am just not convinced that he will be able to translate his skill set to the pro game. I don't think he has the size, speed, or leaping ability to be a big play guy at the next level, atleast not as a true #1.

I think his best hope is to be a great route runner at the next level.

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

Having attended a Pro Day, I can tell you that the fact that a team does or does not attend has only a little bearing on their level of interest in a given player.
The majority of things you'd observe at a Pro Day are measurables, and those are easy to just pick up and read about in the college's campus paper. The big thing that scouts miss out on when they miss a pro day is position drills, and that's where you see better than you hear. Still, the results of a high-profile school's Pro Day are all readily available.
The real tale of a player's chances is in the game tape, but you can learn a thing or two about who that player really is by being up-close and personal with him. I went to Cincinnati's pro day they year Haruki Nakamura was entering the draft, and he looked pretty good, but the real eye-opening thing for me was seeing the Ravens scout paying extra-close attention to him. He had a few one-on-one conversations with Nakamura, and he was smiling and nodding the whole time. Nakamura went on to be drafted by the Ravens in the 6th (and we could have had him. dammit.).
That same draft, a defensive player from UC named Angelo Craig was coming out. He was definitely draft-worthy based on his performance in games, but his position drills looked simply awful. He showed up wearing his NFL Scouting Combine shirt, and then proceeded to run through the blocking dummies standing practically straight up. He looked like he didn't care.
The Bengals took a flyer on Craig in the 7th that year and he failed to make the team. And yes, we had a scout there. When we drafted him, I was scratching my head.
And by the way, the Bengals did not attend USC's pro day last year, but we knew that Maualuga was worth it in the 2nd.
Just sayin'.

Oh, no doubt. I've made several references in this thread, including the original post, that this list doesn't mean anything definitively. But, there is value. For instance, we sent scouts (time and money) to scout potential Fullbacks. None of us, well at least me, had any idea we were interested in a Fullback.

The individual Pro Days don't matter so much as what the big picture tells us. If we're sending all our scouts to look at a few particular positions, that makes mock drafting a little easier.

[WhoDeyBengals]

Having attended a Pro Day, I can tell you that the fact that a team does or does not attend has only a little bearing on their level of interest in a given player.
The majority of things you'd observe at a Pro Day are measurables, and those are easy to just pick up and read about in the college's campus paper. The big thing that scouts miss out on when they miss a pro day is position drills, and that's where you see better than you hear. Still, the results of a high-profile school's Pro Day are all readily available.
The real tale of a player's chances is in the game tape, but you can learn a thing or two about who that player really is by being up-close and personal with him. I went to Cincinnati's pro day they year Haruki Nakamura was entering the draft, and he looked pretty good, but the real eye-opening thing for me was seeing the Ravens scout paying extra-close attention to him. He had a few one-on-one conversations with Nakamura, and he was smiling and nodding the whole time. Nakamura went on to be drafted by the Ravens in the 6th (and we could have had him. dammit.).
That same draft, a defensive player from UC named Angelo Craig was coming out. He was definitely draft-worthy based on his performance in games, but his position drills looked simply awful. He showed up wearing his NFL Scouting Combine shirt, and then proceeded to run through the blocking dummies standing practically straight up. He looked like he didn't care.
The Bengals took a flyer on Craig in the 7th that year and he failed to make the team. And yes, we had a scout there. When we drafted him, I was scratching my head.
And by the way, the Bengals did not attend USC's pro day last year, but we knew that Maualuga was worth it in the 2nd.
Just sayin'.

[underrated29]

Dont forget though, that we were scouting skelton pretty hardcore during the season. I believe we were one of the first teams to look at him. We did send some people his way, so i would figure that we have a pretty good handle on him already and may not want to waste efforts looking at him again....

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

Outside of McClain and Spikes, who had several other good prospects working out, we haven't attended many LB Pro Days, but that still doesn't really tell whether we want to draft one high or not.

For the higher draft picks, I'm going by personal visits. We brought in almost every prospect we drafted in the first 5 Rounds last year, if not all of them. I'm not sure if we brought McBath or Olsen in, but Moreno, Ayers, Smith, Quinn, Bruton, and McKinley all came in. The problem was that we didn't hear about some of those visits until they were interviewed after the draft and stated they had been here before.

[Mat'hir Uth Gan]

Any chance you could put the personal workouts in this post as well? I'm pretty sure you would have kept a record of them.. because you seem that organised.

Just think it would be nice to keep it all together too use as a reference..

Well, there are two problems with that. The first is that Elevation already started doing the Workout Visits Thread, so that's his baby this year.

The bigger, and more annoying problem, is that this forum has a new 4 day edit rule. After 4 days, you can't edit your posts. So, you actually have to make a new thread every 4 days to keep things up to snuff. It sucks because you lose so much of the discussion from the previous thread and it is a lot of unnecessary work. I did it with the Junior Declare List and that was enough for me.

So...this Pro Day thread I'll keep updated for four days, then I'll wait until all the Pro Days are done, which is about a week, and I'll just have Elevation insert it in his Personal Visit threads.

I just wanted to throw this up now to see if I could accumulate some information I may have missed.

[Bowie Man]

Outside of McClain and Spikes, who had several other good prospects working out, we haven't attended many LB Pro Days, but that still doesn't really tell whether we want to draft one high or not.