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    Originally posted by PFT

    Rumbles of McNabb to Raiders trade emerge

    Every once in a while, we develop a tipster who builds a track record of providing tips that end up being true.

    And one of our latest tipsters who has been accurate with past tips (for the most part) has now given us a tip regarding the trade terms that possibly would send Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb to the Raiders.

    Per the tip -- uncorroborated but nevertheless intriguing -- McNabb and cornerback Asante Samuel would go to Oakland, and cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha would go to Philadelphia.

    We don't know whether an offer of this nature has been made. We suspect that the Eagles would, at a minimum, want to replace Samuel with Sheldon Brown.

    Anyway, stay tuned. This is all uncorroborated, but we know that our friends in Philly are desperate for information, and that our friends in Oakland are desperate for hope.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-terms-emerge/

    Originally posted by SF Chronicle
    So Donovan McNabb is suddenly the Raiders' new favorite player, is he? So JaMarcus Russell will get one more chance to learn the position by watching, only this time from someone further up the quarterbacking food chain than Bruce Gradkowski?

    Yeah, well, we'll believe it six days after we see it.

    In fact, the juicier the rumors get, the less believable they actually are. Like the one about McNabb and Asante Samuel coming to Oakland in exchange for Nnamdi Asomugha and his $16 million/year, plus a draft pick above No. 42 (the Raiders have Nos. 8 and 39). It makes superficial sense, but the more you think of it, the more hinky it becomes.

    First, the alleged departing.

    Asomugha is still a superb cornerback by any measure, and you know how Al Davis loves cornerbacks. But it's not like the Raiders were tearing up the league with him on the flank, and he makes a boatload of money that the Raiders thrust upon him with great force and persuasion.

    And now the rumored new employees.

    McNabb is also an eight-figure salary carrier, and of advanced years and hits. His resume, on the other hand, is only slightly tarnished by having no Super Bowl ring, and those who want to dispute his value as a quarterback just want to pick a fight.

    And Samuel? Also of advanced football years, and his best ones are already in the rear view mirror.

    But the real kicker here is Russell, who would essentially be buried in Oakland, and we're just not convinced yet that Al is ready to take that step.

    The one thing we have noticed about the Raiders of late is that when people most loudly demand action from them, their desire to do nothing is strengthened. They had to fire Tom Cable and didn't. They had to get rid of Darren McFadden and waived Justin Fargas instead. They had to get a football guy to serve as a sounding board for Al and didn't.

    In short, the Raiders have decided to live the contrarian lifestyle - to preface every sentence with, "No, I don't have to," and then leave the rumors to die out on their own.

    This doesn't mean they're not kicking the fenders on such a trade. It doesn't mean they're turning down anything out of hand. Because listening is always free.

    But deals of this size are already rare, and a McNabb deal would almost certainly mean that the Raiders have abandoned the Russell experiment after only a couple of years of misbegotten adventures and disappointments, for a quarterback who may have one or two years left on his own chassis.

    That's the problem here - not that McNabb isn't an immediate upgrade, or that Russell couldn't use all the mentoring he can absorb, or that moving Asomugha's contract is a bad idea. It's that the Raiders are not just a quarterback away from greatness, and McNabb is a temporary patch that will fall off before the hole has been repaired.

    And maybe this also falls under the "Al can't admit a mistake" aegis, although at this stage of both his own health and his team's competitive viability, such vanity is an unaffordable luxury.

    If this deal does happen, and so far the smoke has far outdistanced the fire, it means that the Raiders are rolling some big dice on a very small window. And while Al's patience is well short of infinite, he hasn't reached that nuclear winter stage of team building, where he throws everything at the one wound bleeding the most and leaves the others to go dry on their own.

    But let's be honest and also say this - a McNabb-for-Asomugha deal that also undercuts Russell is a sensational conversation starter that would energize more than just the Philadelphia market (which already has chronic Iggles on the brain) and the Bay Area market (which has not had to contrive many reasons to ignore the Raiders) but the entire NFL. It is a fragmentation grenade a few weeks before the overblown nonsense pageant that is the draft.

    And whether it's a realistic deal or a daft rumor made up by three drunks in a bar in South Philly or San Leandro, who doesn't want that just for the snicks and giggles?
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...SPCU1CLFR4.DTL
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  • #2
    I would actually be very worried about the Raiders if they had McNabb. If they put a half decent O-Line together they could be a pretty scary team IMO. I doubt it will happen though, unless the Eagle's are willing to take on Namdi's ridiculous contract.

    I hope he goes to the 49ers though, I'd love to see them get back on top of their division.

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    • #3
      Also Schefter and other ESPN correspondents are currently confirming the Raiders are willing to part with Asomugha.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Den615 View Post
        I would actually be very worried about the Raiders if they had McNabb. If they put a half decent O-Line together they could be a pretty scary team IMO. I doubt it will happen though, unless the Eagle's are willing to take on Namdi's ridiculous contract.

        I hope he goes to the 49ers though, I'd love to see them get back on top of their division.
        I would be a bit worried to personally. Hopefully the very thought of joining the Raiders as the bane of any NFL players existence will drive McNabb to say no to any deal (or retire if it happened, voiding it). He clearly wants to finish this year in Phili.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by BigBroncLove View Post
          I would be a bit worried to personally. Hopefully the very thought of joining the Raiders as the bane of any NFL players existence will drive McNabb to say no to any deal (or retire if it happened, voiding it). He clearly wants to finish this year in Phili.
          I dunno...I think they were saying on NFLN or PFT that McNabb would rather get a big pay day from Oakland than risk injury in the final year of his contract for a team that doesn't really want him.

          I really hope he lands in San Francisco though, it just seems like a good fit. They'd have a good combination of experience and youth, in a division that they could very easily put together a playoff run in.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BigBroncLove View Post
            Also Schefter and other ESPN correspondents are currently confirming the Raiders are willing to part with Asomugha.
            Asomugha = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ The Raiders are still reeling from their spending spree last offseason.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pratama View Post
              Asomugha = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ The Raiders are still reeling from their spending spree last offseason.
              Yes, it's a very prohibitive contract. Especially for a team that still has to advertise to sell seats in a stadium far smaller then others around the league. The Raiders are hitting financial straights that are starting to sink the ship.

              Originally posted by Den615
              I dunno...I think they were saying on NFLN or PFT that McNabb would rather get a big pay day from Oakland than risk injury in the final year of his contract for a team that doesn't really want him.

              I really hope he lands in San Francisco though, it just seems like a good fit. They'd have a good combination of experience and youth, in a division that they could very easily put together a playoff run in.
              I'd love to see him in SF to. I just moved back to Denver from there and their team is 100% one QB and a right tackle away from likely taking their division from the Cardinals. Well... so long as Crabtree steps up this year. They could benefit from a better CB to flank Nate too.
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              • #8
                I love Al Davis. He's so wrong in so many ways. I'd love for him to flip the bird to all of the football prognosticators and stick with Russell come hell or high water.



                I'd be very disappointed if McNabb goes to the faiders.

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                • #9
                  From PFT:


                  McNabb mess only gets messier
                  Posted by Mike Florio on March 26, 2010 2:22 PM ET
                  With the Raiders and the Bills believed to be exploring the possibility of trading for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, there's suddenly a catch.

                  McNabb told coach Andy Reid on Thursday that McNabb prefers staying in Philly to playing for Oakland or Buffalo, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.

                  Of course, McNabb ultimately doesn't have any say in whether he's traded. But it's one thing for the Raiders to trade for defensive end Richard Seymour when Seymour didn't want to be a Raider; it's quite another to make a trade for a reluctant quarterback.

                  That said, ESPN's Sal Paolantonio points out that the Eagles might have no choice but to move McNabb. Paolantonio reports that league sources believe the Eagles wanted too much for McNabb, that several interested teams have moved on, and that no one currently is willing to give up more than a third-round draft pick.

                  But, per Paolantonio, the Eagles have concluded that a decision must be made soon. If the situation lingers, it will be impossible for McNabb to return as the starter in 2010.
                  I also read somewhere that Philly would be unlikely to pick up Asamouagh's (sp?) $16 M/yr contract...I'll have to find link.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Key West Bronc View Post
                    From PFT:




                    I also read somewhere that Philly would be unlikely to pick up Asamouagh's (sp?) $16 M/yr contract...I'll have to find link.
                    I've read the same. Who would want to take that overloaded contract? That contract is just more proof of the great mind that is... AL DAVIS!
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                    • #11
                      Wow is Al Davis out smarting Pat? We better be worried if they get him! Qb was the biggest weak spot for the raiders.

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                      • #12
                        I pray to god that this guy is wrong, I mean I wouldnt mind seeing Nnamdi gone but in all reality the only thing mcnabb does good is throw the ball deep and with possibly the fastest WR corp. in the league it would be very hard to play them, you combine that and if they draft bruce campbell (which I think they will) this team will be very tough to beat and would be automatic favorites in the AFC west.
                        A healthy Kenneth Dixon is a top 5 NFL RB.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by crash123go View Post
                          I pray to god that this guy is wrong, I mean I wouldnt mind seeing Nnamdi gone but in all reality the only thing mcnabb does good is throw the ball deep and with possibly the fastest WR corp. in the league it would be very hard to play them, you combine that and if they draft bruce campbell (which I think they will) this team will be very tough to beat and would be automatic favorites in the AFC west.
                          Bruce Campbell is a combine phenom. If Al Davis watches his game film they won't (or shouldnt) pick him up. If the Raiders pass on him, watch how far Campbell will fall. I always love watching the Raiders pick.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pratama View Post
                            Bruce Campbell is a combine phenom. If Al Davis watches his game film they won't (or shouldnt) pick him up. If the Raiders pass on him, watch how far Campbell will fall. I always love watching the Raiders pick.
                            I wouldnt say that, I would say he is a bit of a working progress but thats what I see the raiders taking especially with there head coach being a ex offensive lineman I mean look what he did for robert gallery. campbells got a good snap off the ball on the run but misses on his man too much. he posted some of the best numbers and I think the fastest 40 time of any OT so thats what I am looking for the raiders to draft
                            A healthy Kenneth Dixon is a top 5 NFL RB.

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                            • #15
                              Why dont we get Mcnabb then trade for Asomugha

                              This should probley be in a different section but i thought i would get a bigger response here.

                              Why dont the Broncos get Mcnabb then just trade him over to the raiders for Nnamdi Asomugha. The raiders already said they would trade him for Mcnabb. What do you guys think ?
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