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  • Jared Odrick

    After watching some more tape on this guy, I starting to really like him. He's a perfect 5-technique in a 3-4. Great length at 6-5, but also very solid at 305. That's great size. He has a non-stop motor that keeps him going. He has pretty good strength to hold up at the point of attack, but what really impresses me is his burst into the backfield. He looks to be a natural athlete. I would not be disappointed if we took him at 11.
    Go Broncos!!!:thumb:

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    Glad more people are coming around:salute!:

    I really like Odrick. As many of us have mentioned before, Green is not an every down DE. Odrick would be the perfect player to rotate with him as a rookie.

    I think it is pretty likely he is our pick at 11.

    Nice post:go:

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    • #3
      ^^^What he said:salute!:
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      • #4
        There's a reason why he is often compared to Richard Seymour in terms of his potential. He's an animal on and off the field. He has a great work ethic, and every year he has improved in terms of his motor and his production. He came into Penn State as a guy who had plenty of upside, but he was still sort of coming into his own body.

        He's got the ability to not only hold up at the point and stop the run, but use his quick burst off the snap to get some pressure on the QB. He was used at DE a lot during the past 2 years, to help exploit some mismatches and just to utilize his skillset. I think at the very worst he will end up as a Luis Castillo type player. By that, meaning that every once in a while he will show great flashes of pure ability. Best case scenario is the previously mentioned Richard Seymour; who really made the 5-Tech appear as though it can be a glory position, if you had the tools and mindset.

        If Odrick can bring that same work ethic he showed from a Senior in high school throughout his Penn State career, he will develop into a special player. Add into the mix that he will be getting coached up by one of the best 3-4 Defensive Line coaches in the NFL, and he really could be a force. The value is a bit of a reach at 11, but I wouldn't be surprised, or angry, if we did pick Odrick at 11. We have the guys who can protect him for a year or two while he gets his feet wet (Bannan and Green), so it might make sense to get him now, and really let him develop the right way.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Snarfalicious View Post
          There's a reason why he is often compared to Richard Seymour in terms of his potential. He's an animal on and off the field. He has a great work ethic, and every year he has improved in terms of his motor and his production. He came into Penn State as a guy who had plenty of upside, but he was still sort of coming into his own body.

          He's got the ability to not only hold up at the point and stop the run, but use his quick burst off the snap to get some pressure on the QB. He was used at DE a lot during the past 2 years, to help exploit some mismatches and just to utilize his skillset. I think at the very worst he will end up as a Luis Castillo type player. By that, meaning that every once in a while he will show great flashes of pure ability. Best case scenario is the previously mentioned Richard Seymour; who really made the 5-Tech appear as though it can be a glory position, if you had the tools and mindset.

          If Odrick can bring that same work ethic he showed from a Senior in high school throughout his Penn State career, he will develop into a special player. Add into the mix that he will be getting coached up by one of the best 3-4 Defensive Line coaches in the NFL, and he really could be a force. The value is a bit of a reach at 11, but I wouldn't be surprised, or angry, if we did pick Odrick at 11. We have the guys who can protect him for a year or two while he gets his feet wet (Bannan and Green), so it might make sense to get him now, and really let him develop the right way.
          Great Post!! (CP for you)

          It would be great if we could get a pass rush threat from our front 3. Imagine how good our pass rush will be if Ayers continues to progress and we have a guy drawing double teams away from Dumervil on the line! God I love the draft...lol

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          • #6
            I've thought about this, i wouldnt mind Odrick at all. We dont have much youth/talent on the DL other then Baker and McBean, Fields is 28/29 and one year left on his contract. Green is more of a rotational DE/3rd down pass rushing specialist then starter. From what MUG, Snarf and others have said, looks like it would be a good pick. To make it better, we have the best DL coach in the NFL, some good veterans he could learn from. If we cant trade back, i'd like Odrick.
            Last edited by ERoyal248; 04-01-2010, 10:45 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Snarfalicious View Post
              There's a reason why he is often compared to Richard Seymour in terms of his potential. He's an animal on and off the field. He has a great work ethic, and every year he has improved in terms of his motor and his production. He came into Penn State as a guy who had plenty of upside, but he was still sort of coming into his own body.

              He's got the ability to not only hold up at the point and stop the run, but use his quick burst off the snap to get some pressure on the QB. He was used at DE a lot during the past 2 years, to help exploit some mismatches and just to utilize his skillset. I think at the very worst he will end up as a Luis Castillo type player. By that, meaning that every once in a while he will show great flashes of pure ability. Best case scenario is the previously mentioned Richard Seymour; who really made the 5-Tech appear as though it can be a glory position, if you had the tools and mindset.

              If Odrick can bring that same work ethic he showed from a Senior in high school throughout his Penn State career, he will develop into a special player. Add into the mix that he will be getting coached up by one of the best 3-4 Defensive Line coaches in the NFL, and he really could be a force. The value is a bit of a reach at 11, but I wouldn't be surprised, or angry, if we did pick Odrick at 11. We have the guys who can protect him for a year or two while he gets his feet wet (Bannan and Green), so it might make sense to get him now, and really let him develop the right way.
              Snarf, if NE jumps in front of us and draft Odrick, how do you feel about Lamarr Houston in the 2nd rd? It kind of hurt me to put Alualu behind Houston, but it is something about Houston that is very intriguing.
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              • #8
                Green should not be a starter.

                I was disappointed to read in the Denver Post that he was projected as the starting Right Defensive End.

                The truth is, Green was a great rotational lineman, but when he was forced into the starting lineup for a prolonged period of time after Seymour was traded, he sucked.

                His sack totals have declined drastically after recording 7.5 sacks in 2006 and 6.5 sacks in 2007.

                As a starter last season, he wore down. He was never particularly strong against the run.

                Our best bet would've been to rotate him in like what we did with Vonnie Holliday. Ryan McBean should start at Right Defensive End. He was a beast against the run before he sprained his MCL vs. Baltimore.


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                Anyways, regarding Odrick: I wouldn't mind, but it is sort of a reach at 11. Additionally, we invested a lot of money on our defensive line with Bannan, Williams, and Green. And Marcus Thomas is reportedly switching to Defensive End this season (excited), so if Thomas excels there then Odrick might get buried behind the depth chart. He may not be an immediate contributor.

                I think drafting a guy at 11, you should probably want somebody who could be an immediate contributor. IMO.
                Last edited by getlynched47; 04-01-2010, 10:06 PM.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by getlynched47 View Post
                  Green should not be a starter.

                  I was disappointed to read in the Denver Post that he was projected as the starting Right Defensive End.

                  The truth is, Green was a great rotational lineman, but when he was forced into the starting lineup for a prolonged period of time after Seymour was traded, he sucked.

                  His sack totals have declined drastically after recording 7.5 sacks in 2006 and 6.5 sacks in 2007.

                  As a starter last season, he wore down. He was never particularly strong against the run.

                  Our best bet would've been to rotate him in like what we did with Vonnie Holliday. Ryan McBean should start at Right Defensive End. He was a beast against the run before he sprained his MCL vs. Baltimore.
                  Agreed, a lot of people hate McBean, but until his injury he was playing well. I still wouldnt mind if we took Odrick though, there arent many legit 3-4 DL prospects in this draft, and we dont have much talent on our DL.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ERoyal248 View Post
                    Agreed, a lot of people hate McBean, but until his injury he was playing well. I still wouldnt mind if we took Odrick though, there arent many legit 3-4 DL prospects in this draft, and we dont have much talent on our DL.
                    Well I completely agree with you, however we have a HUGE hole that hasn't been addressed: Center.

                    Those plug-n-play rookies that you can throw into the starting lineup straight out of college are usually found in the 1st round. We need a center. 11 would be a huge stretch for Pouncey or Tennant (I don't like Walton), but if we can't trade down into the beginning of 20, the team might have to consider reaching for a center. We can't count of Dustin Fry. Russ Hochstein is coming off a torn ACL. We need a center we can plug in and keep there.

                    I like Odrick, but I'm worried about center.


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ERoyal248 View Post
                      I've thought about this, i wouldnt mind Odrick at all. We dont have much youth/talent on the DL other then Baker and McBean, Fields is 28/29 and one year left on his contract. Green said himself he cant start, hes a good rotational DL/3rd down pass rushing DE. From what MUG, Snarf and others have said, looks like it would be a good pick. To make it better, we have the best DL coach in the NFL, some good veterans he could learn from. If we cant trade back, i'd like Odrick.
                      Do you have a link with him saying that. I believe you, i just don't recall him saying that from the video's i've seen.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JayJack View Post
                        Do you have a link with him saying that. I believe you, i just don't recall him saying that from the video's i've seen.
                        Ughhh, edit i dont, but hes not effective as a starter. He didnt say that, but hes more of a rotational player at this time of his career.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by getlynched47 View Post
                          Well I completely agree with you, however we have a HUGE hole that hasn't been addressed: Center.

                          Those plug-n-play rookies that you can throw into the starting lineup straight out of college are usually found in the 1st round. We need a center. 11 would be a huge stretch for Pouncey or Tennant (I don't like Walton), but if we can't trade down into the beginning of 20, the team might have to consider reaching for a center. We can't count of Dustin Fry. Russ Hochstein is coming off a torn ACL. We need a center we can plug in and keep there.

                          I like Odrick, but I'm worried about center.
                          I agree, OC Is easily our biggest need. I would like to trade back and get an extra 2nd or 3rd, get Pouncey in the mid 1st round. Im definately worried about center too, im hoping they have a plan for it, i dont know if we can rely on Dustin Fry .. But with the DL, we already have 7 players there, if im not mistaken, 3-4 teams carry 5-6 DL on there team for the games. I would like to know the plans for Baker, i like his potential.

                          DE- McBean, Green
                          NT- JWall, Fields, Baker
                          DE- Bannan, Thomas
                          Last edited by ERoyal248; 04-01-2010, 10:47 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ERoyal248 View Post
                            I agree, OC Is easily our biggest need. I would like to trade back and get an extra 2nd or 3rd, get Pouncey in the mid 1st round. Im definately worried about center too, im hoping they have a plan for it, i dont know if we can rely on Dustin Fry .. But with the DL, we already have 7 players there, if im not mistaken, 3-4 teams carry 5-6 DL on there team for the games. I would like to know the plans for Baker, i like his potential.

                            DE- McBean, Green
                            NT- JWall, Fields, Baker
                            DE- Bannan, Thomas
                            Well said, I agree 100%

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ERoyal248 View Post
                              I agree, OC Is easily our biggest need. I would like to trade back and get an extra 2nd or 3rd, get Pouncey in the mid 1st round. Im definately worried about center too, im hoping they have a plan for it, i dont know if we can rely on Dustin Fry .. But with the DL, we already have 7 players there, if im not mistaken, 3-4 teams carry 5-6 DL on there team for the games. I would like to know the plans for Baker, i like his potential.

                              DE- McBean, Green
                              NT- JWall, Fields, Baker
                              DE- Bannan, Thomas
                              No matter how some people feel about Fry, McD said that he liked Fry coming out of college. I'm not saying that we won't draft a center, but i believe we will draft a center in the 3rd rd, and let them battle for it. I still think that is the reason why we didn't sign Hadnot, because we wouldn't guarantee him the job.
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