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    Seriously with how deep this draft is I think we should trade out of the first round and get a 2nd 1st rounder next year so we can make a move for Locker in 2011!
    Last edited by nickmeyer; 04-06-2010, 03:16 AM.
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    I would like the move, but my personal choice would be to move down in the first round, not entirely out. We need to make sure that we acquire a top talent either on the OL, or at WR (regardless of how the Marshall situation pans out). But, simply moving down from 11 to say 25+ would net us a large amount of picks. And, with players like Dan Williams, Rolando McClain, Dez Bryant, and Brandon Graham all scheduled to go as early as #11-14, teams will be looking to move and grab one of these guys. It's a very real possibility that we play the game, and take an offer to move down.

    The depth in this draft is unreal. We very easily could get starters up until the 4th round.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by nickmeyer View Post
      Seriously with how deep this draft is I think we should trade out of the first round and get a 2nd 1st rounder next year so we can make a move for Locker in 2011!
      So wait you want to trade out of a deep draft to get extra pick in a draft that isnt as deep..... All just to pick up a QB?? You might want to think that one through. As it stands there is no reason that our first 3 picks shouldnt be starters or have huge roles this year. If anything... I would rather trade into this draft. Use next years #1 for us to get additional second round picks this year
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        Yeah, I would much rather trade down in the first than completely out of it.
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        • #5
          Agree with OP completely.

          I would much rather have two additional 2nd rounders in this draft than no. 11.
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          • #6
            Yeah but OP isnt saying that,,, he's saying trade out and grab another first next year to grab a QB

            I would be all for trading out of the first this year to get more picks this year but i would be totally against stock piling picks to try and get a single player next year
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            • #7
              I would rather trade into the late 1st this year if the Broncos decide to trade. (Pouncey) There's alot of talent in the 1st 2 rounds of this year's draft, plus there's no way of knowing where your pick would be in next year's draft, if there is a draft or even football.
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              • #8
                I would like to have something where we trade our 1st this year for a first next year, and maybe a second this year.

                If Clausen slides to us, I think its very likely that Min or Ari trades up to try to get him.

                If that happens we could trade down, pick up an extra 2nd this year and likely a second next year.
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                • #9
                  I'd rather trade down to like 18-20 and grab Odrick before New England and get some extra picks in the 2nd/3rd round.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hoserman117 View Post
                    I'd rather trade down to like 18-20 and grab Odrick before New England and get some extra picks in the 2nd/3rd round.
                    He is a 3 technique DL, we need a 5 technique, not too high on Odrick.

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                      Originally posted by Ohenhen12345 View Post
                      He is a 3 technique DL, we need a 5 technique, not too high on Odrick.
                      Odrick can play almost any position on the DL, and almost everyone is projecting him as a 3-4 DE because of his size and skillset. Very few prospects get to play 5-tech in college. Alualu is one but he's a 2nd round prospect.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hoserman117 View Post
                        I'd rather trade down to like 18-20 and grab Odrick before New England and get some extra picks in the 2nd/3rd round.
                        This would be great, because if they jump us then we could still take Pouncey...or a Brandon Graham or Sergio Kindle. Here comes the flames
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Snarfalicious View Post
                          I would like the move, but my personal choice would be to move down in the first round, not entirely out. We need to make sure that we acquire a top talent either on the OL, or at WR (regardless of how the Marshall situation pans out). But, simply moving down from 11 to say 25+ would net us a large amount of picks. And, with players like Dan Williams, Rolando McClain, Dez Bryant, and Brandon Graham all scheduled to go as early as #11-14, teams will be looking to move and grab one of these guys. It's a very real possibility that we play the game, and take an offer to move down.

                          The depth in this draft is unreal. We very easily could get starters up until the 4th round.


                          See, I tend to disagree with you. Yes, there is depth in this draft, but only at select positions. I do not feel the D-line depth is good at all for 3-4 teams. I see Odrick and Williams as blue-chippers, then a drop to Alualu, Houston, Cody, and Thomas all with some risk. And then another drop to Jones, Troup, Joseph, Neal, and Geathers. And then the rest.

                          The OC depth is in the same boat. There are some guys, but nobody is else is close to Pouncey, and then if you miss on Walton or Tennant, the drop off appears massive.

                          And then ILB and OG is just rather weak this year.

                          Now, WR has awesome depth. RB has good depth. Rush LB has awesome depth. OT has awesome depth. S and CB has mind-boggling depth. TE has awesome depth.



                          But for our needs, which border on D-line and OC, I don't think we can afford to trade down because we need a starter now at both RDE and OC. And if we don't believe in Baker and want to develop another NT behind Williams, we need to take that prospect early because they get sucked up fast.

                          I'd rather see us keep #11 for Odrick, and trade up into the late 1st for Pouncey. If I was in charge of this draft, I would make that happen. If I have to trade away a high pick next year, no problem. The only 5 tech I see on the horizon that will be better than Odrick is Cameron Heyward and he'll go in the Top 5. I don't see another OC prospect on par with Pouncey, and I don't expect to see one any time soon. We've managed to have two once-in-a-decade OCs come down the pipe in back to back years (Alex Mack), it may be 20 years before we see another.

                          Odrick at #11, because he will almost certainly be there. And then I would trade our 2nd Rounder and next year's #1 to move back into the 1st Round ahead of Pittsburgh at #18 for Pouncey. And I'd feel good that I just nailed two Pro Bowl talents that can start from Day 1. If we do believe in Baker, our D-line would be complete for the foreseeable future. Our starting O-line would be complete as well, with a mid-round pick targeted for depth. Grab a RB and LB late, sign a FB and P from the undrafted crop, and this team is ready to go. If we trade Marshall, that extra selection would go towards WR.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan View Post
                            See, I tend to disagree with you. Yes, there is depth in this draft, but only at select positions. I do not feel the D-line depth is good at all for 3-4 teams. I see Odrick and Williams as blue-chippers, then a drop to Alualu, Houston, Cody, and Thomas all with some risk. And then another drop to Jones, Troup, Joseph, Neal, and Geathers. And then the rest.

                            The OC depth is in the same boat. There are some guys, but nobody is else is close to Pouncey, and then if you miss on Walton or Tennant, the drop off appears massive.

                            And then ILB and OG is just rather weak this year.

                            Now, WR has awesome depth. RB has good depth. Rush LB has awesome depth. OT has awesome depth. S and CB has mind-boggling depth. TE has awesome depth.



                            But for our needs, which border on D-line and OC, I don't think we can afford to trade down because we need a starter now at both RDE and OC. And if we don't believe in Baker and want to develop another NT behind Williams, we need to take that prospect early because they get sucked up fast.

                            I'd rather see us keep #11 for Odrick, and trade up into the late 1st for Pouncey. If I was in charge of this draft, I would make that happen. If I have to trade away a high pick next year, no problem. The only 5 tech I see on the horizon that will be better than Odrick is Cameron Heyward and he'll go in the Top 5. I don't see another OC prospect on par with Pouncey, and I don't expect to see one any time soon. We've managed to have two once-in-a-decade OCs come down the pipe in back to back years (Alex Mack), it may be 20 years before we see another.

                            Odrick at #11, because he will almost certainly be there. And then I would trade our 2nd Rounder and next year's #1 to move back into the 1st Round ahead of Pittsburgh at #18 for Pouncey. And I'd feel good that I just nailed two Pro Bowl talents that can start from Day 1. If we do believe in Baker, our D-line would be complete for the foreseeable future. Our starting O-line would be complete as well, with a mid-round pick targeted for depth. Grab a RB and LB late, sign a FB and P from the undrafted crop, and this team is ready to go. If we trade Marshall, that extra selection would go towards WR.
                            Wow! WOW! That is alot of risk. We have already got a glimpse of what trading next years first for a player can do. I don't know if I would be comfortable doing it two years in a row. I do like both prospects, but gambling away future picks is just not something I want to look forward to every year. Isn't that how Wade Phillips got ran out of Denver??
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                            • #15
                              If we keep Bmarsh then I say we trade down, we hae some holes to fill.
                              Center, guard
                              Full back or a big running back.

                              If we lose marshall we should take Dez at 11 and then use the pick from marshall to trade down to fill holes as needed.

                              Maybe we should get Lendale White and bring him back home to be our goal line guy!

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